The Photos (EXTREME WARNING) 2 of them -Yahoo News

Sorry mods there is no headline.

If this is totally out of line (decorum and rules) please get rid of this and I am sorry

Qusay


Uday

Makes me go hmmmmm.

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these photos look like these men were beaten to death.
Of course, the Administration did not say how the two died, they said they died in the gun battle.

And HELICOPTERS don't pummel your face like a boxing match would. They might blow it to shreads this is true. But they don't leave a body looking like it has engaged in a fist fight.

I'm sorry if English is your second language but your subject line is really begging for a grammar lesson.

They used to publish pictures of slain outlaws back then too.

:puke:

My, we've come far.

When Iraqi President General Kassem was overthrown in a violent military coup and subsequently executed during the early 1960s, a significant proportion of the Iraqi community refused to believe that he had perished. According to various sources I have read, the new regime in Iraq resolved that dilemma by showing his dead and bloodied body on TV night after night. The grotesque viewing also included an Iraqi soldier lifting up General Kassem’s limp head and dropping it to show that he was lifeless.

In both circumstances, this is truly sickening. Uday and Qasy were perverted and evil bastards and I am not at all distressed to hear about their deaths but there is no need to display these graphic pictures. It’s almost like the Administration is gloating over their deaths.

When Iraqi President General Kassem was overthrown in a violent military coup and subsequently executed during the early 1960s, a significant proportion of the Iraqi community refused to believe that he had perished. According to various sources I have read, the new regime in Iraq resolved that dilemma by showing his dead and bloodied body on TV night after night.

1. This isn't "the new regime in Iraq" showing dead bodies. This is a foreign occupying army.

2. Nor are the dead bodies those of a former President. They are of his sons, who, although they held some appointed position, were not in any way the head of state or garnering significant support.

3. Nor were the deaths the result of a battle or the result of ongoing hostilities -- not even the result of an internal struggle for power in the country. They were located in a civilian neighborhood where they were stormed and executed by an occupying force.

4. Finally, I'm assuming "the new regime in Iraq" didn't post pictures on the Internet or circulate them to the international press. I'm assuming they simply confined the viewing to those in Iraq who had expressed disbelief.

they started to do. you do have to consider culture, Islam never really had an "Age of Reason", remember that book from school?. in many places they believe what the leaders in the mosque interperate and tell them to believe, many places the only education is the memorizing of the koran, even if you dont read arabic or under stand the words you will memorize it, tho they say nothing else is of importance, illiterate people are easier to control. in all the videos of demonstrations there are the men in the spiffy black and white turbans and robes, they are running the event, and the village or their part of it. i dont think anyone would do anything they didnt tell them to do. tho, leaders of different mosques i could see disagreeing.

Iraq, right :shrug:

or are talking about a different country?

peace

to roughly 1500 a.d. when Muslim Arabs were the best Physicians, Mathemeticians and Astronomers in the world? Does that count?

"Islam never really had an "Age of Reason","

1,2,3 Those numerals we use everyday come from the Islamic age of reason. They were adopted by the western merchants of Italy. Have you ever tried to add MCVIII, III, IX then devide by CII ?

It was the Islamic world, during the middle ages that defined how modern medicene is practiced. Islamic surgons were removing cataracts 1000 years before europians. Islamic doctors invented the practice of isolating and placing patiants with simular symptoms in the same wards. It was islamic surgons and scholars that maped and drew the interior of the human body, long before DaVinci, while europians still had a superstitious taboo of the subject. It was islam that built the first hospitals.

It was islamic Astronomers that maped the skys and gave many of the stars their names.

Modern science and Mathematics had their starts in the Islamic world, these ideas made their way westward to start the renaissance.

The Islamic world invented the mordern idea of banking with the concept of a "cheque"(or check)

Many of the words you use in english come from the islamic world.


Please, take a look, You should be able to find quite a lot of info on islamic civilization during the dark ages on the net. Then compare them to the enlightened state of europe.


Allah Akbar

And it was among the Muslims, not the Europeans, that they were allowed to live in peace.

the hills of Granada in Spain were somewhat barren and dry...the Moors figured out a way to pump water up - The Alhambra is still a green oasis. While standing under the shade of a centuries old tree, next to a beautiful pool, looking at all kinds of fountains and green plants, you can turn to look out on surrounding barren hills for an image of what it was.

bring 'em in alive?

Is this our military brass telling the intelligence departments to 'back'-off?

Who's running this country anyhow?

We must have thought the country was in grave danger if those two were allowed to be taken alive.

With all contempt for our current leaders. They don't deserve respect that I don't have.

The gruesome photos of El Che. Before they cut his hands off for prints.

Hadn't seen them yet, and am nowhere near a TV.

However, this could be anybody.

I realize they could both have grown beards while in hiding...but still....could be anybody.

I still smell motherfucking bullshit.

Hey I don't know. It could go either way. It could be them it could not.

were all killed...so were these guys alive when removed?

thing was a bloody mess in there, death isnt neet or clean like in the movies. they probably couldnt have been recognised before being cleaned up.

I was more convinced before I saw the photos. It doesn't look that much like them to me.

From the photos I've seen...I'm pretty sure it's them.

The one on the top is Uday and the one of the bottom is Qusay.

is that Yahoo has the goddamn pictures on the FRONT PAGE!! Not a link, not a warning .... just log on and there they are. Beyond tacky. I couldn't give a rats ass about Saddam's two shits for sons, but putting these pictures up on a front page of a web site is uncalled for. Nice thing for kids to see, huh?

I really felt bad putting them on DU (not sure how it would be taken)

but civility tells one to WARN people.

doubles. Probably 4 or 5, just like daddy.

Turned in a couple of 'doubles'

And now all of them are sitting around laughing about the 30 million?

That's $10,000,000 split three ways, not bad for an afternoon's work.

Geez...from a photo you can tell us that's who they say they are?

Man, we don't need no intelligence...we got Magic!

<GRIN>

:)

Seriously though, I don't have a clue if it's them...but the one on the bottom - Qusay - is pretty distinguishable by his fat head.

But I am no expert....just magical.

:)

One of the brothers had his son with them and he was killed too...If they are showing the pictures, why are they not mentioning the 14 y. old?....Perhaps it spoils their story?

which is being released today!

The pictures were intended to convince Iraqis the Hussein brothers are dead. Why are they shown on American TV?

This is what is NOT being shown:

3 dead and 9 wounded GIs this morning in Iraq.

the 9/11 report.

The Bush regime is trying to distract us again!

you should see the one's of my babies" - GWB

I must thank fellow DUer party_line for finding this:

Section III, Article 34 of the 1st Geneva Protocol says:

Art. 34. Remains of deceased

1. The remains of persons who have died for reasons related to occupation or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities and those or persons not nationals of the country in which they have died as a result of hostilities shall be respected, and the gravesites of all such persons shall be respected, maintained and marked as provided for in Article 130 of the Fourth Convention, where their remains or gravesites would not receive more favourable consideration under the Conventions and this Protocol.

2. As soon as circumstances and the relations between the adverse Parties permit, the High Contracting Parties in whose territories graves and, as the case may be, other locations of the remains of persons who have died as a result of hostilities or during occupation or in detention are situated, shall conclude agreements in order: (a) to facilitate access to the gravesites by relatives of the deceased and by representatives of official graves registration services and to regulate the practical arrangements for such access; (b) to protect and maintain such gravesites permanently; (c) to facilitate the return of the remains of the deceased and of personal effects to the home country upon its request or, unless that country objects, upon the request of the next of kin.

http://www.globalissuesgroup.com/geneva/protocol1.html

Posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=31918&mesg_id=31918&page=#32030

Thank You for posting this ...

The remains of persons who have died for reasons related to occupation or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities and those or persons not nationals of the country in which they have died as a result of hostilities shall be respected

only applies to our enemies. We yell bloody murder when they show pictures of our POWs yet we display thier POWs and dead bodies wantonly everywhere. Dammit we made the law, we decide how and on who it is enforced.

This is really sickening ...

What's with the bucket and squeegee? Did they get a homeless person to clean the stiffs?

:wtf: is up with bucket uf suds and the gloved hand? :puke:

peace

...for purposes of recognition and so the attempt to wash it.

Do these people deserve a burial in their own faith? What will happen to their bodies? We know they have been flown out of the country -- probably to Germany, wouldn't you think?

or pick the shots with them in there?

they will probably get no better treatment then these seven german POWS

who were buried face down and naked in the back of Leavenworth denying the request of one man to be buried with phots of his beloved wife and children.

On August 25, 1945, seven U-boat POWs were executed at Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas for the beating and hanging of another U-boat man--Werner Drechsler--at Papago Park POW camp in Arizona in March 1944. The U-boat men felt justified for their actions, as it was determined Drechsler had been working with American authorities to gain military information from other POWs. Wouldn't POWs of any nationality be expected, during wartime, to silence an informant who was endangering their comrades still fighting? There is a video and a book available on this unfortunate chapter in history--see further info on next page.

more...
http://www.geocities.com/lief99/U-boats_graves1.html

What was it again that these two did against America that warranted this ????

No, that's not it!

They gassed their own people.

No, that's not it!

Perhaps is this:

Silence of the grave

Saddam's two slain sons can tell no tales

Leader
Thursday July 24, 2003
The Guardian

As Jack Straw says, it would have been preferable had Uday and Qusay Hussein not been killed. Many may feel that Saddam's odious sons richly deserved their fate at the hands of US special forces in Mosul. But had they been taken alive, they might in time have provided invaluable information about Iraq's arms programmes, the whereabouts of any extant weapons of mass destruction, the former regime's view of al-Qaida or, for example, Saddam's past dealings with US governments. They might even have revealed their father's whereabouts.

A public trial in which the two men were called to account for their crimes might have proved a cathartic moment for the Iraqi nation, demonstrating that war can bring justice. None of this is now possible. It is unclear how hard US forces tried to obtain a peaceful surrender. Little thought seems to have been given to mounting a siege or subduing the men by non-lethal means after they initially opened fire. It is disappointing that the many sensitive questions upon which the two men might have shed light remain unanswered as a result.

Uday and Qusay's deaths have a symbolic value for the Bush administration akin to the toppling of Saddam's statue during the final assault on Baghdad. Demoralised US soldiers who would rather go home may now feel a bit better about their mission. Ordinary Iraqis may feel greater confidence that the Saddam era really has ended. It is possible that the promised, large reward for the Mosul informant who tipped off the Americans may encourage the betrayal of Saddam himself. For George Bush, facing rising Democratic party criticism of his pre-war intelligence claims and falling public support for his costly and confused postwar policy, the killings are undoubtedly politically opportune. He will chalk them up as another signal victory in his "war on terror". If Mr Bush were a fighter pilot (which he sometimes seems to think he is), he would paint two silhouettes on his fuselage with crosses through them. This is the simplistic approach ridiculed by Democrat Dick Gephardt when he warned this week that "foreign policy isn't a John Wayne movie, where we catch the bad guys, hoist a few cold ones, and then everything fades to black".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1004709,00.html

They would not give American oil companies the lucrative contract they wanted ... OFF WITH THEIR HEADS

Off with their heads!

the spots look post mortum, no brusing. form the look of the outside of the building ...there was a lot of cement flying around inside. they fired into the house for 6 hours! sounds like what they did to my great grand pappy Ciecel McCiddy, he was a bootlegger, and a real badass about being messed with, the revenuers cornered him on a cliff, the gunfire knocked him over the edge and he fell into a tree 350 feet straight down. they couldnt see him in the tree, so two dozen feds fired into the tree for before noon till just before dark to make sure he was dead before they decided to check. i would like to hear the details of the gunfight in Iraq, were they shooting back for 6 hours !!?? i did hear forma journalist that the city partied all night.

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/world/0307/gallery.hussein.bodies/frameset.exclude.html

TYY

though I think that the photos are on the square.

The administration would go to any extend to mislead us!

The administration would go to any extend to mislead us!The word is EXTENT

nit pick.

Get over it. And yourself.

Zizzer

actually mean something.

Thanks

not in a million years.
These pictures prove nothing to me.
I can draw two conclusions, however:
1. Bush assassinated some people for no good reason
2. Bush is a bastard

These pictures tell us nothing. Perhaps someone who knows them well (ie spends significant time with them, especially recently) would be able to id them with these pictures.

I was reasonably certain that the boys were probably killed. These pictures raise more doubt than they do confirm their death.

Cheers
Drifter

Not to exacerbate the morbidity of the subject... The only pictures I've seen of these guys have one wearing a mustache and the other either clean shaven or sporting some stubble. If the point was to convince everyone that these were the brothers, why wouldn't they shave the beards off so their faces could be seen?

This reminds me of the faked Usama video that was so blurred out and crappy looking it could have been anyone.

(edit) I would just like to add that the above is random speculation made within the disgust I have for the whole situation. There was no reason for these guys to be killed outright; they should have been given the chance to surrender. The killings were nothing short of a barbaric "total war" tactic.

I wasn't totally serious, but it looks like someone was listening:

"...the military showed journalists including an Associated Press reporter the autopsied bodies covered only by sheets and presented identifying evidence, including dental records and a rod from Odai's leg.

Odai's beard had been trimmed to the length he had worn it in life. Qusai's beard was shaved off and he had only a mustache, his trademark. The faces appeared waxy and heavily made up."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/07/25/international1140EDT0582.DTL

He's a cold calculating MURDERER

When they announced they had killed Uday and Qusay, I said I would not believe it until I saw the bodies. At this point, I would not trust anything put out by the Bushido cabal about Iraq without unimpeachable evidence to support. If they came out and said that bin Laden had been killed, I would not buy it. I don't want to hear OBL is dead, I want to see him dead.

Now, I don't agree with how the Reich wing news media is displaying the bodies on national TV. Definitly a day to rediscover PBS and other alternative stations (or even better, shut off the TV and find a good book to read with or to your kids).

Somewhere in this WAR a defining moment appears.
This is that moment.

There is no more innocence about any of this.

The CHIMPANZEE and his handlers have basically stated anything goes here.
These photos clearly illustrate what "BRING EM ON" means.

Got help anyone in the middle of this mess

I am not convinced. Even so, their deaths don't justify the war or make it into a big success.

In more enlightened times, we fixed the heads of our dead enemies on pikes mounted at the city gates.

do a search on Edward I and the Scots rebellion

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030728-465944-2,00.html


Cobra Company stormed the place — and found an old Bedouin, his three sons and their wives. The soldiers apologized, and the old man offered them a glass of chilled water and a warning. "Unless you catch Saddam and show his head to the people," he said, holding his clenched hand up as if he held a fistful of hair, "they won't believe he is gone. This will not end." In Tikrit and in Washington, U.S. soldiers and politicians suspect that he is right.

In an earlier time this was done

Richard Duke of York, whose head was so displayed in 1461, was not the first to have his head chopped off and displayed on Micklegate Bar. Nor was he the last...

1403 Sir Henry Percy (Hotspur)
1405 Sir William Plumpton
1415 Lord Scrope
1461 Earl of Devon
1572 Earl of Northumberland
1663 Four of the Farnley Wood Conspirators
1746 William Conolly
1746 James Mayne
Once decapitated, an individual's head was skewered on a pikestaff and displayed from the roof of the Bar. There they were pecked by crows and magpies: a suitable indignity for those seen as traitors.

http://www.micklegatebar.co.uk/lostheads.htm

Are we goose-stepping back into the Dark Ages?

is full of mutilations by the blue coats, the aim was to make sure after death one could not leave this world for a better one. The GOP even in death we will continue to screw you.

where the bodies would hang in the trees for all to see, as they partook of refreshments and celebrated their inhumanity. america is no stranger to displaying the trophies of terrorist violence...to keep the 'little red, black, brown and yellow ones' in line.

the limbs and torso of the traitors were displayed in different areas of the town. Well at least now we wash the bodies with a squeege before we display them.

this will only serve to infuriate the Iraqians as it does me. It is highly offensive and a vilation of any standard of decency.

I am good with that, I want to see little Mustafa's Picture. I heard they lit him up.
I am a liberal, but what's right is right, these guys are taking out a lot of my homeboys who are just trying to get by in this BS world!
PEACE once and for ALL!

I am a liberal, but what's right is right, these guys are taking out a lot of my homeboys who are just trying to get by in this BS world!

They are now an army of occupation, just as the Germans were in France and in Poland during the Second World War.

The Iraqis are resisting the occupation, as noble an enterprise as it was for the French Resistance and the Polish White Eagle!

Unless the troops are withdrawn immediately, unilaterally, and unconditionally, the only outcome will be more of your "homeboys" coming home in bodybags, or returning maimed and psychologically damaged for life. Is that the fate that you wish for them?

"The Iraqis are resisting the occupation, as noble an enterprise as it was for the French Resistance and the Polish White Eagle!"

I'm wondering if you'd have said the same thing if there had been an active German resistance movement after WWII...After all, such a hypothetical group would have been resisting an occupying force...

Japan and Germany both had democratic processes of government in place. Look up Jihad in your history book cause I think we will be hearing it lot very soon.

I'm wondering if you'd have said the same thing if there had been an active German resistance movement after WWII...After all, such a hypothetical group would have been resisting an occupying force...

Germany was the aggressor in World War II, so your comparison does not fit. America was the aggressor against Iraq, so the US is on the same moral plane as Germany in Nazi-occupied Europe and Imperial Japan in Southeast Asia, China, and Manchuria.

(Assuming that is what you mean by "lit him up") Sounds like racism - if you enjoy seeing a dead kid whom you link with "these guys". I wonder - by "homeboys" do you mean blacks? Because I don't think a black DU-er would hate children based on the color of their skin or their Arab nationality. Referring to a young teenage male as "little Mustaffa" is as racist as referring to a young black teenager as "little Rastus". Your whole post reeks of cognitive dissonance. I know liberals, and you are no liberal.

would that bond you with your homies? By the way some advice stay out of the hood they will see thru you like fried chicken DUDE!

Fried chicken, nice line. I forgot, Is this Free Republic or am I not allowed to express an opinion? I don't live in a hood, perhaps you imply I should? Do I smell the distinct aroma racism????!

I was just suggesting you don't talk your fratboy jive around here in (free america) well maybe not so free under maslo's pyramid.

Hey lemme break it down for you.
First, homeboys means my friends. Some are hispanic, some are Black and yes, some are even White. They all bleed red blood Diverman. Maybe you need to increase the oxygen and knowledge flow to your brain.
Why do they have to be Black? I expect an answer otherwise you are a bust out racist...
Second, THE KIDS NAME is Mustapha, do a search on google news. Its not a racist name that I pulled out of my ass. What's this Rastus sh*t anyway. Care to email me and explain it? Who are you to judge me? Again, answer me on that one. Again, are you a bust out Racist? So I can't express an opinion? I didn't say I was happy about the occupation, but when punks shoot at us, even a 14 year old...I am glad we shot back.
You can love the troops and not love the mission, apparently you don't love our guys.

yu are hilarious

from a previous assassination attempt- it seems rather odd that this hasn't been mentioned....

Al Jazeera has also been showing x-ray photos of the man's leg.

I was certain they were not the two men...but having seen them in this thread I have come to the conclusion that they are indeed the "brothers grim."

Perhaps some Iraquis would enjoy seeing the corpses dragged through the streets but Muslims treat even their enemies with respect in death. A quick funeral is a must and if the Iraqui people are offended by anything it would be "infidels" handling the bodies of even these monstrous folk.

No flame please. It is my considered opinion.

"Perhaps some Iraquis would enjoy seeing the corpses dragged through the streets but Muslims treat even their enemies with respect in death."

Say WHAT? I guess that's how they treated our GI's in Somalia eh?

No.. They dragged them through the streets and so on. This is a ridiculous statement.

Not to mention what happened to the kurds.

Look a563829e take your copy of Black Hawk Down back to the vidio store and put the pipe down. Since this is your first post I will ask the obvious or was it oblivious question why are you here???

Considering that the building they were in was hit by an anti-tank missile. I still doubt that's them. I want a German coroner to come down there and do DNA testing on those corpses to be sure before I believe it.

they had to use dental and medical records to identify. These do not look charred but beaten and bloody they also are still in the body bags oh well I'm Irish "don't let the truth ruin a good story"

Only the big bad United States lies to the world right?

I took pictures almost identical to this when I was in college. My friend from down the hall needed shots of himself in "death" makeup for his theater class. It looked IDENTICAL to this. I'm a skeptic, I'll admit it, but I have pictures that look nearly identical to this and the subject was a living and breathing human being. I would like to think that these guys got what they deserved, but for some reason, I get this feeling that they're sitting in some lush apartment in Qatar, or somewhere near there, laughing at all of this.
:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :shrug:

who were demanding proof. So what are they doing all over our airwaves? Our "esteemed" media has devolved into "The Faces of Death Part X".

At least in the other thread it was just a link. Embedding them like this gives one no choice in the matter. I can follow this story without looking at the fucking photos.

okay now that I said that. I managed to steer clear of these graphics till today. Thanks.

I did try to give ample warning but I'm sorry if it offended you.

I just did not expect they were embedded. my response was reflexive not personal.

Now allow me to prefence my post by saying that while I support Bush and the war in Iraq, I recognize many people had some very serious, very valid concerns and reasons to not go to war. However, after reading through this thread, I'm amazed at all of the childish persoanl pot shots that are taken at President Bush and it's sickening. "This was murder" "These guys were innocent, they did nothing to us", "This is all a conspiracy, it's not them", COME ON GUYS! Give me a break! These two monsters were responsible for murdering thousands of people. I'd bet anything that if this were a Democratic adminstration, doing the SAME EXACT THING, you'd be jumping and cheering what happened, AS WOULD I, and you guys know it. It's a GREAT thing for the entire world, and the Iraqi people in particular, that they're dead. And it IS them, there's no doubting that, they have the dental and medical records to prove it (of course, that's probably a conspiracy too, right?). If they wanted to lie about it, they had ample opportunity before now to do so.
As far as Yahoo posting the pictures directly on the homepage with no warnings, I agree 100%, there's no call for that. Yahoo is a popular homepage that is viewed by countless children and other folks who simply don't want to see that. That's extremely irresponsible on Yahoo's (and other websites) part. However, to somehow blame the Bush administration for that boggles my mind.
Now, before you all go biting off my head, please allow me to explain a few things. Yes, I am extremely conservative and I USUALLY vote Republican, but I am open to listen to all sides. For example, I love Foxnew's Hannity and Colmes. While I'm a huge fan of Sean Hannity (I know that probably makes me the anti-Christ here), I also admire and have a lot of respect for Alan Colmes, even though I almost always disagree with him. I've never seen him resort to personal attacks or name calling, and he always attempts to back up his points with factual arguments. I also firmly believe that he fully believes in what he's saying, he's not just being a good little Democrat "towing the party line". On the flip side, I can't stand Bill O'Reilly, even though I usually agree with him. He is so egotistical and arrogant, I cringe when I hear him talk. He thinks the entire world revolves around him and his Factor TV and radio shows. I don't understand why people can't vote for candidates and takes stands based on how they personally feel about the issues instead of "towing the party line". I'm also the first to admit that many Republicans are just as bad, and if the roles were reversed, they'd be whining about the same things. This is the main reason I think the party system is antiquated and should be disgarded, but that will never happen. Both parties are too interested in power and money.
Now, I don't know any of you, and this is the first time I've been to this site (which is very nice by the way), but if you guys go back and read some of your post, with an honest, non-biased eye, you'll realize that there's some very childish statements. I'm sure most of you are much more intelligent and mature than what these messages show. And to be fair, there have been times where I've allowed emotions to control me, and posted dumb things on the Internet too, so I'm not trying to be overly critical. I enjoy and welcome healthy, thought out debate. However, some of these posts downright ridiculous. Thanks, have a great weekend.

Stick around, maybe we'll convince you to see the error of your ways! ;-)

I'm impressed with the professional style of the site itself and look forward to intelligent, ADULT discussions. Me may not always agree (maybe we'll never agree), but I can still respect people.

I'd be fascinated to hear a few rational explanations from the conservative side instead of the usual tripe we get from right wingers here. Cheers, and welcome to DU.

I look forward to hopefully making some friends here. Maybe I can "influence" some of you to leave the Dark Side :) J/K

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C-ya

Most people here will see your post as dumb and downright ridiculous (just returning the elementary school rhetoric). Don't take it personally. DUrs are far more informed about the illegitimate regime that currently controls the WH then you appear to be. Stick around and maybe you will learn something. :hi:

These kids aren't for you.......they can read and write and they don't watch television.......except for shits and giggles. We're all suffering from a change in format due to limited bandwidth and here you are junking it up.

It's too late to make friends with this group, we're here to put the Bushco. hoodlum's heads on a pike. Hoist them upon their own petard as it were. First the pawns, then Unka Dick, then the inbred idiot. It's why this site exists.........that and brotherhood of course.

I don’t know what the big fuss is all about, those pictures are pretty tame. I guess I should of took some pictures of my house cats breakfast yesterday. Damn thing caught a rabbit and disemboweled it across the front porch. Talk about cleaning up a mess, sheesh!!

http://www.antiwar.com/



http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Iraq-Photos.html?ex=1060083937&ei=1&en=6c2c759f7a5c6fd5
Many Iraqis Unswayed by Grisly Photos
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 5:40 p.m. ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The United States released grisly photos Thursday to convince Iraqis that Saddam Hussein's sons were dead and to weaken support for an anti-American insurgency. But some Iraqis saw the pictures of the bloodied, bearded men as a ruse.
The photographs of Odai and Qusai Hussein were immediately broadcast by U.S.-sponsored Iraqi TV, CNN and two Arab satellite television networks widely viewed in Iraq. The Al-Sa'a newspaper held its front and back pages open to publish them Friday morning.
``This is a U.S. ploy to try to break the spirit of the resistance,'' said Jassim al-Robai, a computer engineer who was sharing an ice cream tart with two friends at a restaurant in Baghdad. After seeing the images, Al-Robai said he wasn't convinced that the brothers were killed in a gunbattle with U.S. soldiers.
At a Pentagon news conference, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said it was his decision to release photos of the dead sons and that it was ``not a close call.'' He did, however, acknowledge that it ran counter to the U.S. military's unwritten convention of not showing images of enemy war dead.(snip)

They're skin tone is wonderful for dead people, how old are these pics? I heard that the bodies were burnt as well as riddled with bullets...not what I'm seeing here. No headshots outta 200 troops? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No, I don't buy it.

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