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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:28 PM Original message |
2 Clinton Backers Offer a Way to Stage New Primaries; Daschle says he would go along |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Translation: Clinton backers offer to try and buy her some wins. |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Who are they going to raise the $30M from? It's either going to cut into her |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
111. Barbra Streisand, silly |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Oh, so voting is only allowed |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Apparently, since that's the policy of the Clinton campaign. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Wait until NOVEMBER, You'll see how much Michigan and Florida count. |
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Tanketra (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Well, since you asked ... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:59 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Can you lose Michigan? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Correction: Michigan didn't vote for a Democrat from 1972 to 1992. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #68 |
85. How about 17 electoral votes? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
73. Florida is not ours..hasn't been for ages & Crist will be the vp choice |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
99. Way to compare apples and oranges |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. Wow, you win the gold for jumping to conclusions |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 06:02 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. Keep it up. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
101. Thank you for the medal - LOL |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
98. SUCH bullshit. It was known the votes would not count ahead of time. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Translation: Obama doesn't give a shit what Michigan or Florida VOTERS say. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. The candidates have nothing to do... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. And this effects the out-of-work UAW Member HOW? |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. That is correct |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Time to fish or cut bait. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
104. I really think FL could go blue |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. You might be thinking of DLC. nt |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Kudos to stillcool47 |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. If new elections are held ... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. And this matters why? |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I'm willing to try to understand your point of view |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Here's how to do it: |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Makes sense |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
95. Well said. I wholeheartedly agree. n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
100. You may not care, but the courts have affirmed that this is not disenfranchisement. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
103. Love ya, |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
96. This could really backfire on her. Odds say she is better |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
102. I wouldn't be surprised if they did that too. n/t |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. As long as it is a legit primary and not an inherently undemocratic caucus, this sounds good |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. And as long as we only count the votes of Clinton supporters, she wins easily. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Hillary is not for blocking votes |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Hey, I'm all for full participation, but not for vote buying. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
105. Rules, schmules |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Clinton Cheap Tricks 101 |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Yeah, just ask Nevada. nt |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Keep it up. |
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Kelli372 (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. The DNC set these rules quite a while ago... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Hey, at this point, the only one with something to lose is Obama. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
107. Wish they were that consistent |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Given what you say about the leaders in Michigan |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. You are missing the point, aren't you? |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
106. Yeah man |
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dmac (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Uh, I think not |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Keep it up. |
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wildwww2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
69. She can try that crap if she wants. But if they redo FL I`m voting Obama! |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. I find it just plain WRONG that backers of a candidate ON THE BALLOT... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Then come up with some OBAMA backers. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. What heavy hitters, pray tell? Obama's money comes mostly from small donors. |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Oh yeah.... sure.... |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. No he just has |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
59. Accidentatl dupe |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Then come up with some OBAMA backers. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Keep it up. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I'm a citizen, and I got no say in this action |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Fine. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. This was a joint State/National DNC FUCKUP |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You want to stand on this principle? GOOD. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. "Personally, I'm a Clinton supporter" |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Who do YOU know? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. If they kept Jennifer Granholm..... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #54 |
84. Like they did in 1972? 1976? 1980? 1984? 1988? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. Tyler, they don't CARE about Michigan or it's problems. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 06:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
79. As I say, wait until November. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
109. Of course you're a Clinton supporter; you're endorsing cheating. |
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lakercub (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
88. agree and disagree |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
108. You had the chance to lobby against this. Did you? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Oh and by the way..... |
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pbca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. Are they going to raise time as well? |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. This is sicking .... this country is falling into despair and we have |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Keep it up. |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. What worries me is the increase |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. From Dean, re. the article -- |
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fshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. 6 to 15 in 24 hours? |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It's a mess, and a puzzlement -- I agree. nt |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. You know what Obama SHOULD do? |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Yes he should! |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. If I hear one more word about "The Rules..." |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. We cannot afford to have Florida and Michigan |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. No. They don't see it. |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. HRC wants to break the rules and seat the delegates |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I don't see it as a problem caused by Obamma. I think it is a combination |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:49 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Keep it up. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
110. Hear, hear. Some truth to counterbalance the bullshit from Clinton boosters. |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
55. the usual flip-flop |
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ajamo (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. Michigan re vote |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
66. candidates who look like they'll do anything to get elected - lie, cheat, steal |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Keep it up. |
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klyon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
67. An interesting thing to me is that a re-vote will carry more wait now |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 06:06 AM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Kind of a chance everyone will have to take. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
71. kick |
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speedbird (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
72. who would get ballots? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
74. " Daschle says he would go along" |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. EXACTLY. Daschle's picture is in Websters under the word, "Bootlicking pantywaist." n/t |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
81. This seems reasonable to me... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Who cares who wins? At this point, we just need to salvage Michigan. |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
86. Barack should have been the first... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. VERY good. Exactly my point. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
89. Translation: Corporate Money Interests Attempt to Hold Onto Their Stranglehold on the Dem Party. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
91. Why does what Daschle thinks matter? |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Obama is widely considered to be Daschle's protoge |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Well that explains a lot |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. yes, but people are convinced |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
97. Wow, what a bullshit article geared toward helping Clinton cheat! |
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