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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:17 AM Original message |
White House: Computer hard drives tossed |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. What a coincedence. The Friday News Dump is about Dumping! |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. Ode to the Nancy Disaster |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. This can't be legal. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I'm pretty sure they're required to save it all. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
61. who actually ordered the hard drives to be destroyed? |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I'm sure it was structured in such a way that nobody is responsible. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I hope you right |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
122. If history is anything to go by, neither will happen. |
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Codedonkey (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. To be fair though... |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. it's not that long ago is it? |
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Codedonkey (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I would imagine they could look in many places... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
100. But in the WH, I believe records must be retained for the archives |
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Codedonkey (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #100 |
114. But most likely not on the drives themselves. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #80 |
108. You probably didn't work for the White House |
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Codedonkey (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Ayes. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
99. let me guess: some young bimbo/bimba who slobbers over himself at the sight of Dickhead & Chimperor |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
118. Ha ha ha! |
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erebusman (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
109. they are probably required to destroy it in fact |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Agreed. It's about protecting individual privacy |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. When have they ever worried about minor details |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
50. That sums them up perfectly. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. legal!? who the hell is gonna challenge them or call them on it? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
86. What we may be saying is that no one now has sufficient POWER to oppose |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
35. It's absolutely not legal -- Presidential Records Act. But impeachment... |
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Gonnuts (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. It's called "obstruction of justice" ... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. ahhhh..... "Destruction of Justice" |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. we start by putting the people who ordered it in jail.. after the election |
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mediaman007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
59. Sorry, but the cases will be tossed out of court... |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I thought Chimpy was going to Rid us of, Activist Judges |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. he replaced them with Machiavellian Corporatist NeoCon Fascist Judges... |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
47. The white house is lying, and the best lies have truth in them |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #47 |
66. We even do that in businesses and home computers. They still |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #66 |
78. we are not bound by Federal Law 'NOT TO' destroy them |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. Bush doesn't think he's bound by |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. it is different when the "Voices" tell you you're on a mission from god.. if god tells you to bomb |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
97. Not always |
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mhoran (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. Legal? |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
124. No |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. Sounds more like destruction of legal evidence, to me. nt |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. Whoa, whoa, WHOA!!!! I want to be a good citizen |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
56. destruction probably means pulverized, then burned and the ashes |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
77. I dunno.... |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
85. Maybe not |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. "We were so busy being ourselves we didn't even notice that we broke the law for the millionth time. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. K&R 5 for further discussion and evidence of the most corrupt American govt ever EOM |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:26 AM Response to Original message |
9. Workstation Hard Drives Ok But What About The Servers |
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greyghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Look no further than the servers. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Or The Backups Of The Servers |
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greyghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Bingo:) |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
51. Cryptographic expiration. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
83. Yes - but then the retention policy means nothing. Official white house |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
123. Mzzzz Payton says it's too expensive |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. good catch |
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Codedonkey (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
81. Ayes... like tape backups... |
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vanboggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
94. That's what I was thinking |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. This is breaking the law to cover up criminal actions |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. She's Defending the Civil Liberties of the Dali Lama and Tibet |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
93. Well Nancy should have to answer that and this is the place to get some results! |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. "the hard drives are GENERALLY sent offsite" |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. What kind of retarded email system is this? |
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InsultComicDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
17. asdf |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
19. that way they can write the history they imagine |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 06:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Nah. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
76. Unless its a dem. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
22. It's all part of the Bush Institute Master Plan |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
23. We are going to have to carry investigations into the next administration. |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
64. 'Fraid so. But better late than never. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
101. my fantasy is * can't stay on the ranch for long---will be called back to court again and again |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
24. gonna be an eternal screaming shame if we don't put them into jail |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. great way to put it |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
25. That's a heck of a Ministry of Truth memory hole |
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Shannon2008 (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
26. There not a chance in hell that the data wasn't stored someplace else . . . |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
102. My guess: check the RNC. Of course, they've probably destroyed their hard drives, too |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
28. The fact that Bushco has been getting away with this shit is a slap in most Americans faces... |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. my face has been slapped so many times |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
31. Laws? What laws? |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
32. Jack Broughton faced court-martial for destroying 25-ft of F-105 gun-camera film. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
57. Similar with the Gondola cut in Italy |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
69. You bring up a good point. I think that what finally brought Nixon down |
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grannylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
33. Two certainties: 1) this is illegal as hell; 2) NOTHING will be done |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
34. So, let's pretend they're telling the truth |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. They are NOT stupid, they are NOT incompetent |
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Tab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #37 |
55. I stand corrected |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
98. You got it! |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
36. This is the 21st century equivalent of shredding documents |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
38. Since when? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
71. LOL. Bill & his staff should have taken all of the letters. |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
40. the White House uses Microsoft Exchange |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
43. Two Things: how did Fitz do a thorough investigation with this being the case; and |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. What difference does it make? |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
75. agreed Fitz should have confiscated those Emails and |
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disndat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
44. The only comfort we can take |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
46. Jesus Christ! |
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mahatmakanejeeves (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
48. Cheney: |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
49. Hmmmm.. |
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Bosso 63 (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
52. Move along people there's nothing to see here. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
53. Nothing about this administration surprises me anymore. I suppose |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
54. This is a crime! |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
58. I have a vision of thugs with sledge hammers |
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PuppyBismark (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
60. The White House has been under court order to archive emails Since the Oliver North Days |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
62. and the sheeple |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
63. It's the same as shredding documents... |
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Magleetis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
67. They will never |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
68. Church Lady says: |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
74. They are Guilty and in your face destroyed evidence |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
79. Time for more cautiously worded criticism |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
82. Ah . . . but gov't has been capturing ALL our e-mails so someone has this . . . !! |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Brilliant! |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #82 |
103. AT&T no doubt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
90. White House Obstructs Justice and Breaks another Law |
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JTucker (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
91. WTF |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Apparantly they can get away with anything and everything |
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guyanakoolaid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
92. This alone is impeachable |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
104. Completely illegal. |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
105. Most companies back up weekly, some daily. There should be multiple backups of these machines. |
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erebusman (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. yes there should ... |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
106. Throwing away hard drives is just like illegally shredding |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
111. This is child's play to them |
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Codedonkey (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
115. What kind of email system do they have at the WH? |
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Zambero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
116. Remember the missing Nixon tape recording? |
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Ztarbod (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-22-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
117. What happened to the Clinton hard drives? |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #117 |
121. since clinton only log into email 1 time in his whole presidency - the day he |
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proud2bamerican2 (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
119. here's the main thing |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-23-08 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
120. What else would crooks do? |
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