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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:25 AM
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(Supreme) Court backs Texas in dispute with Bush
Source: Yahoo

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court says Texas does not have to give a new hearing to a Mexican on death row for rape and murder, deciding a case that mixes presidential power, international relations and the death penalty.

The case pits the president against his home state of Texas. By a 6-3 vote, the court says President Bush does not have the authority to order a new hearing for the prisoner.

It put Bush in the unusual position of siding with death row prisoner Jose Ernesto Medellin (ho-SAY ehr-NES-to meh-DEH-yeen), a Mexican citizen whom police prevented from consulting with Mexican diplomats, as provided by international treaty.

Yahoo


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_mexican_national;_ylt=AssrLO4llHPS5Qiby0MjBBJvzwcF



THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:43 AM
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1. He can get Yoo to write him another brief saying the courts can't tell him what to do..
As long as his own Just Us Dept can write briefs that give him total power he is just fine...He will listen to them as much as he listens to congress.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:06 AM
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2. How encouraging. We can only depend on the United States Supreme Court
to rule against Bush on those rare occasions when he is in the right.
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:59 PM
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7. I laugh but I wish I could cry
what a world. That assclown is worse than a broken clock and for once for whatever reason he does the right thing and this happens.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:52 AM
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3. Why do I think this was a set up?
moron* put to death more people under his* watch as governor than anyone else, virtually in the history of the nation. However, when his* pole numbers are in the toilet he* suddenly is trying revive that "compassionate conservative" bullshit?

He* probably knew right as rain that he* hadn't a snow balls chance in hell in over ruling states rights when it came to this case, yet he* did it anyway.

It's win win for the motherfucker*. he* gets to look like he*, :puke:, cares and the person still gets put to death.

allllllll bullshit.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:05 PM
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4. The Administration's position probably had more to do with appeasing the Mexican government than any
domestic political considerations.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:10 PM
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5. Bush politically motivated - it's an election year, and it's diplomacy with Mexico.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 01:12 PM by superconnected
Maybe there are big republican doners with family inmates in Mexico or are Mexican. And just for fun.. there may be oil in Mexico. Or who knows, maybe the oil stops at the texas border.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:14 PM
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6. My read: Awful decision.
There's never anything wrong with a new(additional) hearing(no matter the source of the stay).

If the facts are the ultimate goal, more circumspection seems good to me.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:44 PM
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8. Texas Solicitor General Ted Cruz...
who argued the state's case at the high court, said the decision "categorically prohibits foreign courts from undermining American sovereignty and independence".

I agree. Why exactly should an international court get to make decisions about American law? Whether or not you agree with capital punishment, upholding Bush's view in this case would have set a terrible precedent.

By the way, I can think of better ways to spend my time than worrying about someone who participated in the rape and murder of two teenage girls.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:58 PM
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9. US courts given leave to bypass international legal rulings (Guardian)
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
The Guardian,
Wednesday March 26 2008

US courts are not bound by the international court of justice or by direct orders from the president, the supreme court ruled yesterday when it refused to allow a fresh hearing for a Mexican on death row.

In a 6-3 decision, the supreme court ruled that courts in Texas were not compelled to comply with a ruling from the ICJ to allow a new hearing for the Mexican inmate because he had not been given access to consular assistance ...

In its 2004 ruling on behalf of Medellín and some 50 other Mexican inmates on death row, the ICJ had held Texas in breach of the Vienna convention, which gives prisoners in foreign jails the right to seek assistance from their home country ...

"Not all international obligations automatically constitute binding federal law enforceable in US courts," <Chief Justice Roberts> wrote ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/26/usa.mexico

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Traction311 Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:21 PM
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10. It's official
The Supreme Court is even further to the right then the Bush Administration. Didn't even think that was possible...:(
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