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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:33 AM
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Delaware Panel Probes Teacher's Obama Remark
Source: NYT/AP

DOVER, Del. (AP) -- A Delaware state commission is investigating allegations that a fifth-grade teacher told her class she wouldn't vote for Barack Obama because he is ''scary'' and a Muslim.

The mother of a 10-year-old student complained, saying her daughter's teacher made the comments during a mock primary on Super Tuesday last month at a southeastern Delaware elementary school, about 40 miles south of Dover. The student is a Muslim.

The Democratic presidential candidate is a Christian, but he's had to fight against false Internet rumors suggesting he's really a Muslim intent on destroying the United States.

The Indian River School District says it has resolved the issue after meeting with the mother and the teacher who allegedly made the comments.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Teacher-Obama-Remark.html
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:41 AM
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1. I do hope that the union won't stand in the way
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 11:49 AM by bluestateguy
It bothers me to no end that the teachers' unions never want to admit that there are times when a bad teacher should be fired. They always seem to side with, and make excuses for bad teachers.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:48 AM
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2. You listen to way too much right wing propaganda on unions.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:46 PM
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7. She's right.
When my daughter was a freshman in high school, her math teacher came to class every day drunk. The kids used to throw things at her and say unspeakable things to her. I was not only appalled that she was drunk, but I was disgusted that my daughter witnessed kids talking like that to a teacher. I called the principal and told him what was happening. He said he knew. I asked him what he was waiting for and why wasn't she fired. He said because the teachers union wouldn't allow him to force her to have a breathalizer test and unless someone actually witnessed the kids throwing things and swearing, there was nothing he could do. I said why didn't he stand outside her classroom and just listen, and the principal said that wasn't good enough; she had to be caught in the act and whenever someone walked in the class, the chaos instantly stopped.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:44 PM
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12. You've been brainwashed too
No union would stand in the way of due process for a teacher who came to work drunk or otherwise in a condition which would endanger her students. The union should/would provide representation, but the union wouldn't want a member attending work in such a state.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:20 PM
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14. I've known of at least two teachers and one principal who were fired for drinking
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 02:21 PM by 1monster
on the job at school and in front of the students.

The teachers' union didn't do anything to stop the dismissal of those teachers. They were out.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:11 PM
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9. I think that the unions merely make sure the accused gets a fair hearing. I've never seen a union
back a shitty teacher or one that deserved the heave-ho.

For all we know, the kid might hate the teacher and knows his parents are Obama supporters, and said that to explain away a bad grade. It's unlikely, that reason, but it isn't impossible.

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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:27 PM
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16. It's all "conservative Fox urban legend" this kind of BS about the "Teachers Union".
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:54 AM
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3. And if a teacher said she wouldn't vote for someone because he's a Jew, would the same thing happen?
Even if Obama is neither Jewish nor Muslim, how is it ever ok for a teacher to teach to discriminate based on religion?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:58 AM
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4. Yes and No
Yes the same thing should happen, and no it's not ok to discriminate based on religion or lack of religion.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:59 AM
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5. If the Wright controversy hasn't shown people that Obama goes to Church and is a Christian
I think they are beyond help.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:11 PM
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6. Jesus.. Sounds Like My Neice's 5th Grade Teacher
What is it with these right wing retards trying to poison our public education system with their grabage?
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:06 PM
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8. Their real impact on the classroom is not the few RW teachers out there...
it's their ownership in the textbook publishing industry. They generally write the textbooks so they get to decide what your child does and does not learn about and under what lens they see every historical event through.

More and more children are taught that America is never wrong, that Columbus was a saint, so was Ronald Reagan, that blacks couldn't govern when given the chance under reconstruction, that slavery wasn't all that bad, that we won the Vietnam War and that war in general is good and noble, that our civil liberties are nice but unneccesary.

This is the battlefront we liberals should be focusing on.

To me taking back our country includes three fronts:

1. buying up media outlets and turning them left.
2. taking a large stake in the textbook publishing industry and offering serious discounts for our books over theirs (school districts are crunched for money so they'll take cheaper options in a heartbeat)
3. winning State legislative and most importantly Secretary of State races.

By accomplishing those we lay the groundwork for much larger victories in Congress, the Senate and yes the Presidency long term by changing the culture around us and controlling the voting booths state by state.

Controlling the media and textbook publication changes the discourse in our country and provides our children and adults alike with access to critical facts and the other point of view that seems non-existent now.

These are the battles we need to win for long term change in our country.

Rp
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:06 PM
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13. Somebody Mentioned This to Me.... That Should Be Illegal
It's pretty damn obvious what these fools are up to. Looks like we have a long road ahead of us.... but now that it's obvious it should be easier to address.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:24 PM
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10. Obama Scary?
This teacher is mentally unbalanced using this Typical White racist rant.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:35 PM
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11. Your assumption that the teacher is white is also racist.
What she said was completely improper, that's enough without perpetuating racism yourself.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:59 PM
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19. Where in the article did it say the teacher was white?
You made that assumption based on your own racism.

As for your generalization that white people are afraid of black people, that's more racism.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:10 PM
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15. blacks don't find him scary.
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