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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:17 PM
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Clark: GOP agenda at play in New Hampshire debate
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/01/23/politics1458EST0651.DTL

Presidential candidate Wesley Clark on Friday complained that one of the moderators in Thursday night's debate was carrying out a Republican agenda by questioning his Democratic credentials.

Brit Hume of Fox News Channel, who worked as both moderator and questioner during the two-hour debate with the seven candidates, pressed Clark about when he had first realized he was a Democrat.

Clark told reporters Friday, "I looked at who was asking the questions, and I think that was part of the Republican agenda in the debate."

Democrats have complained that Fox News Channel shows a Republican bias.

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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:22 PM
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1. I thought Fox News was Fair
and Balanced. That is the one thing that confuses me about this post.

Democrats have complained that Fox News Channel shows a Republican bias.


:dunce:
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:35 PM
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2. Good for Clark for having the guts to mention the elephant in the room
Don't the Dems have any friggen say in who sponsors and moderates
these so called "debates"? I'm starting to think it'd be better
to have no debates rather than the Whorefests we've seen so far.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:37 PM
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3. What's even better thy didn't even touch him...
People saw it for what it was.
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drscm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:42 PM
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4. When did FAUX News first realize that
it is freely biased towards the repugs and is anything but fair and balanced?
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:44 PM
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5. Could anything have been more clear than the fact that it is
Clark's turn in the barrel and Hume, that guy from the Union Leader (the only news source to the right of Attila the Hun) AND Peter Jennings were working out of the RNC playbook?

How many candidates have the balls to call them on it?

Kerry is saying its over the top to call Bush a deserter and we should all just forget about what the Fortunate Son was doing while thousands of young Americans died in VietNam.

Now Dean is supposedly saying on CNN that his campaign wasn't really about the war.

WTF is going on?

Maybe that's whats wrong with backing a non-politician. There's limits to what they'll do for a vote.

I'm hoping I'm make a fool of myself and mistakingly buying into what the pictures on TV are saying. I hope people will be able to correct me and say, no, he didn't say that, you misunderstood.

I hope, but have little hope.

I have rarely been as disgusted with politics as I am right now.

All I need now is to find out Edwards is on Michael Jacksons defense team and Lieberman...Well, Joe2004 always disgusted me.

And I thought CMB signing on with Dean was as bad as it could get.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:17 PM
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8. I was hurt and
disappointed to hear Kerry say this: Kerry is saying its over the top to call Bush a deserter ...

Then when Begala called him on it, Kerry acted like it didn't matter. Yep, I'm disappointed.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:57 PM
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6. Good for Clark - notice the media says he "complained" by stating a fact?
The entire media wants to destroy the Democratic candidates.

Why they allowed Fox to run the Democratic debate in the first place is an example of how Democrats allow themselves to be beaten down.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:02 PM
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7. Excellent...
... we (Dems) can make this backfire big-time on the fucks at Fox if it is played correctly.

Clark took the correct tack, and I hope the other candidates find a venue to make similar complaints.

Even the folks I like to call "sheeple" are not stupid, they are asleep at the switch. Anything that makes them take note of what is said and deduce why it was said is good IMHO.

I'm remembering the 8 year long verbal assault on Bill Clinton. On the whole it was not very effective, because most people saw it for what it was. Let's give folks an ample chance to see this for what it is...
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:23 PM
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9. The media reports Dean "crazy" as a fact, but Fox bias is just a "claim"
The media is out of control.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:05 PM
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10. Glad one of them said it--good for Clark.
...
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michaud Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:12 PM
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11. Good for Clark
you know...I told the Dean folks in Vermont to not go to anymore debates in Iowa for the same reasons two weeks before his disaster.

There is one thing I like about Clark. I think he had got some goods on boooooooooooooooosh.

Oh one more thing, I dont understand how anyone could vote for the Honorable Senator John Kerry/Edward.

They voted with Bush over 50% of the time and miss most of the votes.

What a joke they are.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:14 PM
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12. I dig the General....I like how his mind works....
He doesn't seem to have a lot of weird political tics.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:25 PM
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14. I agree.
Clark is absolutely straightforward and honest. He may have voted for Raygun, but then, so did I - once. I was a brainwashed youth. I see him as a man of integrity (hate me or call me naive if you wish) I gave Dean $200 5+/- months ago. Wish I could take 1/2 of it back. Only given Clark $100, but am saving my $ for the eventual nominee.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:19 PM
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13. FOX Will Run This Story - Whining Democrats
Evil bastards ask questions made to make dems look bad, divisive and angry. Then when someone outs them as not fair, not balanced in the least bit. Then on to Hannity & what's his name - and you've got the FOX network, and all their stupid moronic listeners across this land listening to the lies.

Fox doesn't hold back their disdane for the left. Our country is so divided right now - Bush is the #1 divider, the media is #2. Since all the other networks are trying to copy cat FOX, we just have to sit back and listen to it garbage. And I don't mean litteraly, but even if you don't ever watch FOX, MSRNC, CBS, ABC - they are so powerful now, that without listening, their crap infiltrates into the papers, the news papers, magazines, etc...

The media has way too much control over our daily lives and way too much influence on those who can't think for themselves.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:26 PM
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15. I think you are wrong
Bush is the number 2 divider and the media is number 1.

If it wasn't for the media, the entire nation would be united in getting rid of Bush.

We think Bush is the biggest problem the left has, but he is nothing compared to the media.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:45 PM
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16. Did anyone notice the bogus qurestion they asked Sharpton?
I thought asking him about what his thoughts were about the Federal Reserve was a bit over the top and was done to embarrass him. As it was, he answered first thinking thay asked about the WTO or the IMF (I'm not sure which). But I thought it was a cheap trick. How much can you say about the Federal Reserve? I'm sure no one in the audience had strong opinions one way or another on that one.

I also thought Sharpton's reminder about what happens when the states decide civil rights issues was right on target. It put them all in their places. He may not win the presidency, but his place in those debates is very important and it keeps them all on their toes.
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:02 PM
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18. Good point...
What the hell was that all about? The federal reserve? It was definitely asked to make him look stupid. Lame. I was proud of the candidates for forming a united front last night but it didn't really get anyone anywhere. My question is, why is that republican Lieberman still in this? Why didn't Clark get more questions asked of him? He is definitely the repubs worst nightmare.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:43 PM
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20. 100% Correct
That question was designed to embarrass Sharpton. I doubt if there are many on DU who could compare and contrast fiscal and monetary policy. I really felt sorry for Sharpton. Hell...I doubt if all of the other candidates could...(except that Clark did teach economics at West Point)

The interviewers had an agenda all right and it was to destroy everybody but Liebermann so Bushco can have a cakewalk in November.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:14 PM
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19. I thought that particular question was straightforward,
A candidate for the presidency should know what the federal reserve is, and what it does.

That's why I do not like vanity candidates.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:31 AM
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21. Do you honestly think Bush* could tell you
what the Federal Reserve is, and what it does?

During the one "debate" in 2000 where "average citizens" got to ask questions, I was hoping for this: "Governor Bush, would you please tell us in detail how an Act becomes a Law?"
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:00 PM
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17. You are correct; if the media actually did their jobs
and told the TRUTH about Bush Inc, people would be rioting in the streets.
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