Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Brazil Oil Finds May End Reliance on Middle East, Zeihan Says

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:09 AM
Original message
Brazil Oil Finds May End Reliance on Middle East, Zeihan Says
Source: Bloomberg.com

Brazil's discoveries of what may be two of the world's three biggest oil finds in the past 30 years could help end the Western Hemisphere's reliance on Middle East crude, Strategic Forecasting Inc. said.

Saudi Arabia's influence as the biggest oil exporter would wane if the fields are as big as advertised, and China and India would become dominant buyers of Persian Gulf oil, said Peter Zeihan, vice president of analysis at Strategic Forecasting in Austin, Texas. Zeihan's firm, which consults for companies and governments around the world, was described in a 2001 Barron's article as ``the shadow CIA.''

Brazil may be pumping ``several million'' barrels of crude daily by 2020, vaulting the nation into the ranks of the world's seven biggest producers, Zeihan said in a telephone interview. The U.S. Navy's presence in the Persian Gulf and adjacent waters would be reduced, leaving the region exposed to more conflict, he said.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aBUoYKhu7PWk



I've said it before, and I'll say it again. NO MORE OIL. We've already done ENOUGH damage to our planet, why must we continue to find new sources of this scourge? We need to start moving AWAY from oil, not embracing yet more of it!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:14 AM
Response to Original message
1. Uh-huh . . .
"Several million barrels a day . . . " is going to free the Western Hemisphere fromt he tyranny of ME oil, when the US right now consumes about 21 million barrels a day.

Yeppers, maybe - I repeat MAYBE - being able to replace about 10% of US consumption through Brazilian production = ending reliance on ME.

Bullshit. This is hot-stock bulletin email spam-level bullshit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. US doesn't get Saudi crude. That oil flows to EU and China
Brazil won't be held hostage to OPEC. I think thats what the article is reaching for.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. No, actually the US does get Saudi crude - about 1.5 MBD in January 2008
They're the biggest single source of OPEC-sourced oil imports to the US, and the second-biggest source of US crude among all oil-producing nations.

1. Canada
2. Saudi Arabia
3. Mexico
4. Venezuela
5. Nigeria

Rankings as of January 2008

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:32 AM
Response to Original message
3. Add one to the "axis of evil"
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #3
7. They will be if they don't agree to just fork it over to us
All your oil are belong to us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #3
11. Here is a piece from YouTube
It is in Portuguese, but the visuals are funny. It stars Rambo, Ahh-nold, Chuck Norris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JffmWtjxVq8:hi: :thumbsup: :applause:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:50 AM
Response to Original message
5. Bush to declare war against the Bossa Nova.
Invasion immanent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:51 AM
Response to Original message
6. Their president, that there Lula Evo Hugo Castro is some kind of a commy, ain't he?
Good news for O Brasil!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
walnutpie Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
8. The interesting item can be found in paragraphs 3 and 4
---
Brazil may be pumping ``several million'' barrels of crude daily by 2020, vaulting the nation into the ranks of the world's seven biggest producers, Zeihan said in a telephone interview. The U.S. Navy's presence in the Persian Gulf and adjacent waters would be reduced, leaving the region exposed to more conflict, he said.

``We could see that world becoming a very violent one,'' said Zeihan, former chief of Middle East and East Asia analysis for Strategic Forecasting. ``If the United States isn't getting any crude from the Gulf, what benefit does it have in policing the Gulf anymore? All of the geopolitical flux that wracks that region regularly suddenly isn't our problem.''
---

Imagine, just imagine that this could be the catalyst which allows complete US withdrawal from the Middle East. The long term ramifications are absolutely mind blowing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Are you kidding? As long as Israel's there, we're not going anywhere
The fundies and Dominionists won't allow us to leave the Middle East completely.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
9. 10 - 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1
Brazil Free Trade Treaty being drafted right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemKing Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. Oil in North Dakota As well
Isnt it true there is a BUNCH of Oil in the Northern United States? I believe North Dakota? Wasnt it found decades ago but they couldnt get to it because it was on a slant? Or something like that... I heard something about this on the radio about a month ago, but it was at 2am and I was half asleep..LOL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. Welcome to DU.
Lots of oil in Alaska but no production to obtain it -- to keep prices artificially high, and I don't mean ANWAR.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC