Rice: Mideast peace improbable, not impossible

sinkingfeeling

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Tue May-13-08 03:54 PM
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Rice: Mideast peace improbable, not impossible

Source: MSNBC.com

JERUSALEM - The United States said Tuesday that reaching a Mideast peace agreement within the next eight months "might be improbable but it's not impossible," cautioning that no major breakthroughs are expected when President Bush arrives in Israel on Wednesday.

Bush, in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, said the United States cannot impose peace in the Middle East.

"I will come not as somebody who demands, but somebody who encourages," Bush said. He said, "I'm not running for the Nobel Peace Prize; I'm just trying to be a guy to use the influence of the United States to move the process along."

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24599914/

Why do I detect a little "Nobel Peace Prize" envy?

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54anickel

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Tue May-13-08 04:25 PM
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1. Still a drunk, now on a power trip - "use the influence of the United States"

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matt007

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Tue May-13-08 04:39 PM
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2. I have the solution to mideast peace

STOP BLIND SUPPORT OF ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are a country practicing ethnic/cultural apartheid. They would be forced to negotiate if we pulled some support. That means money and diplomacy. Do that and you will see progress.

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liberal N proud

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Tue May-13-08 06:45 PM
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6. Bingo

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Phx_Dem

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Wed May-14-08 10:37 AM
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9. You really don't have a clue

The US provides Israel with a couple billion per year in aid, primarily for military spending that comes right back to US defense contractors.

The peace process will only move forward when the Palestinians are willing to negotiate in good faith, which is not currently the case, a senior Hamas rep had this to say yesterday:

"The Palestinians and the Arabs have crushed the Jews' assumption of supremacy… The Zionist legend of invincibility has been destroyed.

"Now more than ever I tell you – we will never recognize Israel… We will form the Palestinian state on all of Palestine's territories and the sun of liberty will burn the Zionists. To them I say – you will lose. You will leave and we will keep hounding you. The blood of our slain sons will haunt you forever," he said."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3543208,00.html

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matt007

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Wed May-14-08 01:52 PM
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10. Good faith?

What you dont think the Israelis pander to their zionists in the same way e.g. no land for palestine, no scaling back of west bank settlements etc. you sound like someone defending the apartheid regime during the riots in S. Africa.

Israel has a right to exist. WITHIN the AGREED 1967 borders. That means no golan, gaza, sheeba farms, or 90% of the west bank.

And I dont mind taking a couple of billion from defense contractors. Have you ever been around D.C.? Alexandria, McClean, Langley, Arlington,.... The defense contractor biz is booming. Who cares if they loose a few billion. They are just war profiteers.

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Phx_Dem

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Wed May-14-08 02:25 PM
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12. There is no apartheid in Israel

The West Bank and Gaza are not part of Israel, so I don't see how the term applies.

There is nothing special about the '67 borders, it's just where people were when the ceasefire was signed. According to UNSC 242, Israel needs to have borders that are secure and defensible, which may or may not be on the '67 line.

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L0oniX

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Tue May-13-08 05:03 PM
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3. What does peace in the mideast and Hillary's bid for the presidency have in common?

They both will never happen.

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subsuelo

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Tue May-13-08 05:24 PM
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4. Well for one the US (and Israel) could start paying attention to human rights groups

Human Rights Watch: Bush Should Press for End to Gaza Closure

(Washington, DC, May 13, 2008) – President George W. Bush should urge Israel to reverse its strict closure policy towards the Gaza Strip, three human rights groups said in a letter to the US president today. Human Rights Watch and two Israeli human rights groups, Gisha Legal Center for Freedom of Movement and Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, called on Bush to dissociate the United States from the closure policy, which is causing grave harm to Gaza’s civilian population.

Israel’s comprehensive restrictions on the movement of goods and people into and out of Gaza, including fuel and other civilian necessities, constitute collective punishment against the civilian population, the three organizations said. Israel’s stated intention has been to pressure Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups to end their rocket attacks on Israel.

“It’s debatable whether Israel’s closure policy has had any impact on Palestinian armed groups who fire rockets at Israel,” said Joe Stork, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “What’s absolutely clear is that the closure has gravely harmed Palestinian civilians in Gaza.”

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But then, when has this administration ever made human rights a priority on their agenda?

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trof

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Tue May-13-08 05:45 PM
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5. "And we may have a total cure for all cancers by then, too."

"Well, it COULD happen."
jeez

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ToughLuck

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Tue May-13-08 07:24 PM
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7. WE already know you are not trying to win the Peace Prize..you are a war criminal

for crying out loud..someone tell him to just shut up already!

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Supersedeas

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Wed May-14-08 10:08 AM
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8. Defense Contractors must love her go get-em' attitude toward peace

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gratuitous

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Wed May-14-08 02:20 PM
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11. After 7+ years of neglect and sabotage

Yeah, I suppose it's not outside the realm of every possibility in the universe that peace could somehow break out in the Middle East under the careful ministrations of Bush and his band of thugs. There's also about the same possibility that if Dr. Rice sticks a fork into that electric outlet, she'll poop out a pill that cures cancer. Frankly, I'd rather see her with a fork in her blood-stained mitt than a plane ticket to Tel Aviv.

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