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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:52 PM
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Bush disappointed with intel before Iraq
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Tuesday he was disappointed in "flawed intelligence" before the Iraq war and was concerned that if a Democrat wins the presidency in November and withdrew troops prematurely it could "eventually lead to another attack on the United States."

...

A question submitted from the online audience asked Bush whether he felt he had been misled about Iraq as he made the decision to go to war.

"`Misled' is a strong word," he said. "Not only our intelligence community, but intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was."

"Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don't. I think it was just, you know, they analyzed the situation and came up with the wrong conclusion," he added.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_iraq
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:55 PM
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1. Disappointed my ass. It was exactly what he asked for. nt
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:57 AM
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19. I say he was disappointed AT FIRST, until they back with
something he could work with.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:52 AM
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25. Is he dissapionted in the intel prior to 911? Or just that he IGNORED it?
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:53 PM
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81. Such a Liar can only worship Satan
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:57 PM
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2. He was disappointed the CIA didn't write up a nice Osama-met-Saddam story for him.
The scary thing is that Iran could be building a fleet of Ohio-class nuclear strike submarines, but I wouldn't believe a word this clown told me at this point.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:05 PM
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3. Still amazes me
...how so many different intelligence agencies around the world all managed to get it wrong, in favor of the invasion BushCo was trying SO hard to avoid.

Also amazes me that Bush** didn't wait for Congress to approve the Iraq War Resolution before launching joint US/UK airstrikes with 100s of planes to "soften up" Iraq in September 2002. Just in case "diplomacy" failed, I guess.

But if he says he was misled by the intelligence community, well then, that must be the case.

:sarcasm:
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:05 PM
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4. F*****g LIAR!
LIESLIESLIESLIES!!!!!!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:22 PM
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5. Not just a liar, total evil
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:22 PM
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6. If bush really cared. He would have given up lying through his teeth instead of golfing.
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tctctctc Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:23 PM
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7. aww, you disappointed in 1 million Iraqis dead, too?
How bout 50,000 dead or disabled vets, too?
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Gamey Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:54 PM
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8. Convenient Incompetence
What's disappointing is his deliberate backwards assessment of the intelligence.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:13 AM
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28. intelligence doesn't have to be smart or accurate to justify bloodletting
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:32 AM
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9. Bush disappointed with Cheney's Intelligence
manipulations. Does he not remember Cheney ran the CIA. Another good job Brownie.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:49 AM
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10. Let's see if I understand this.
He is "disappointed" in the intelligence he ordered, in how he analyzed the situation and came to the wrong (his) conclusion.

And because of that, things haven't been hunky dory, so we should continue to do the things that will continue to keep things bad, because otherwise it make things bad?

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:55 AM
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11. So that's the grounds on which he will declare himself President for Life
He'll decide that for the sake of the country ("in the interests of national security") he can't leave the presidency because a Democrat taking office poses a clear and present danger to the United States.

In his mind, of course.

Conquering the Drawbacks of Democracy

By Philip Atkinson

<snip>

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear
weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until
they were all dead. Then there would be little risk or expense and no
American army would be left exposed. But if he did this, his cowardly
electorate would have instantly ended his term of office, if not his freedom or
his life.

<snip>

Caesar pacified Gaul by mass slaughter; he then used his successful army
to crush all political opposition at home and establish himself as permanent
ruler of ancient Rome. This brilliant action not only ended the personal threat
to Caesar, but ended the civil chaos that was threatening anarchy in ancient
Rome – thus marking the start of the ancient Roman Empire that gave peace
and prosperity to the known world.

If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of
Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve
immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by
converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a
liability to an asset); and boost American prestiege while terrifying American
enemies.

He could then follow Caesar's example and use his newfound popularity with
the military to wield military power to become the first permanent president of
America, and end the civil chaos caused by the continually squabbling
Congress and the out-of-control Supreme Court.

<more>

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?id=1208571



The link is expired now, of course. Family Security Matters pulled it as soon as the liberal blogs made it public, but I made a PDF of the Google cashe before that, too, vanished.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:57 AM
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12. Who knew we couldn't trust a guy called "curveball"?
Bush wanted a war, he got the intelligence to justify one.
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:08 PM
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33. it's more than that -
Germany warned us that he was a known pathological liar, then Cheney of course sucks up every word he says and it's our raison d'etre for war - proof positive - yeah right.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:07 AM
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13. He was disappointed with intel before Iraq?
Funny, we all knew about his intel before Iraq. It hasn't gotten any better since then. The man has learned nothing.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:24 AM
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14. I'm disappointed with his failed intelligence now

Iraq is a political stalemate. The surge and troop losses are simply manifestations of the lack of effort he and Condoleeza Rice have put into settling the question of who controls the oil-rich Kirkuk region.

For all his bravado of creating a democracy in Iraq, he has not gotten a workable constitution framed there. No agreement between the Federalists (those who don't want Kurds to get too rich, and the Kurds) means no coalition government.

All the deaths, pain, military and rebuilding expense are a result of this lack of political progress.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:55 AM
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15. every6 goddamn word out of that dick
is bullshit. pure fucking bullshit. it has ever been so.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:10 AM
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16. Bush: U.S. had 'darn good intelligence' on Iraq
When I gave the speech, the line was relevant'

From Dana Bash
CNN Washington Bureau
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 Posted: 3:27 AM EDT (0727 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush said Monday he had "darn good intelligence" on Iraq despite his disputed State of the Union claim that Baghdad sought to purchase uranium from Africa.

"The larger point is and the fundamental question is, 'Did Saddam Hussein have a weapons program?' And the answer is, 'Absolutely,' " Bush told reporters after a meeting with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan.


http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/14/white.house.intel/

So - which story is correct, Chimpenfuhrer? "Flawed" intelligence or "darn good" intelligence??

The hypocrisy and lying is astounding.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:32 AM
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17. And the "save the legacy tour" continues. Forget it, smirk. You're a petty little crook. nt
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:37 AM
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18. Not many other countries jumped on the bandwagon to invade Iraq.
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:10 AM
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20. This fucking liar is still out there using FEAR to control an election!!
Bush will continue this propaganda until the very last hour of his last day in office..freaking bastard.
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:15 AM
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21. Yeah, I am sure that he feels real bad
but he sure looks happy enough to me.



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xyouth Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:33 AM
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22. I guess he forgot we know about the Downing Street Memo.
Lie lie lie lie liar you lie lie lie lie
Tell me why tell me why
Why d'you have to lie
Should've realised that
Should've told the truth
Should've realised
You know what I'll do

You're in suspension
You're a liar

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:51 AM
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23. When you cherry pick intelligence from intelligence agencies that you create
specifically to tell you what you want to believe (but has no basis in reality) because it supports a long term agenda that you have, how can you be disappointed?

Hey, the CIA isn't telling us what we want to hear. Let's create the Office of Special Plans, fill it with our cronies, make them tell us exactly what we want to hear, and we'll have a reason to invade Iraq.
:crazy:

Bu*h and the rest of the neocons are so totally full of shit it makes me sick. They're flat out psycho.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 08:51 AM
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24. When you cherry pick intelligence from intelligence agencies that you create
Edited on Wed May-14-08 08:55 AM by Zorra
specifically for the purpose of telling you what you want to believe, (but which has no basis in reality), because it supports a long term agenda that you have, and then you act upon this self-invented false information, how can you be disappointed?

Ah, yes...we're talking about conservatives here.

"Hey, the CIA isn't telling us what we want to hear. Let's create the Office of Special Plans, fill it with our cronies, make them tell us exactly what we want to hear, and we'll have a reason to invade Iraq!"
:crazy:

Bu*h and the rest of the neocons are so totally full of shit it makes me sick. They're flat out psycho.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:23 AM
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26. Ah yes...the intell that warned bUsh there was NO WMD.
Very disappointing to a war-mongering prick.

"If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency."
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:35 AM
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27. "Not only our intelligence community,
but intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was."


Bush Knew Saddam Had No Weapons of Mass Destruction

By Sidney Blumenthal

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam's inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again. Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.
<http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/justify/2007/0907bushknew.htm>

The So-Called "War on Terror:"
A Masterpiece of Propaganda


By Richard W. Behan

The campaign of propaganda and fear rose to the level of brilliance when Mr. Bush appointed the 10-person "White House Iraq Group" in August of 2002. Chaired by Mr. Karl Rove, its members were trusted partisans and communications experts skilled in perception management. Their role was explicitly to market the war, to persuade the American people - and eventually the Congress - of the need to invade Iraq. The group operated in strict secrecy, sifting intelligence, writing position papers and speeches, creating "talking points," planning strategy and timing, and feeding information to the media. This was the nerve center, where the campaign of propaganda was orchestrated and promulgated.<20> The group chose to trumpet nearly exclusively the most frightening threat of all - nuclear weapons. Ms. Rice soon introduced the litany of the smoking gun and the mushroom cloud, Mr. Cheney said hundreds of thousands of Americans might die, and Mr. Bush claimed Saddam was "six months away from developing a weapon."

In the 2003 State of the Union address, President Bush uttered the infamous "sixteen words:" "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." This was typical of White House Iraq Group work: the CIA knew, and had said, the information was bogus. The propaganda campaign was ultimately successful, not least because of the axiomatic trust American people extend to their presidents: nobody could have anticipated the range, intensity, and magnitude of the expertly crafted deception. And the campaign was aided by a compliant mainstream press, swallowing and repeating the talking points.<21> The White House Iraq Group found it easy to plant such misleading stories as the aluminum tube foolery in the New York Times. The Congress was persuaded sufficiently to authorize the use of military force. The American people were persuaded sufficiently to accept the war and to send Mr. Bush to the White House for a second term. But no other war in the country's history had to be so consciously and comprehensively sold.
<http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2007/0829propaganda.htm>

Britain Never Thought Saddam Was a Threat

By Richard Norton-Taylor

Damning repudiation of the government's public claims in the run-up to the war is contained in secret evidence to Lord Butler's committee on the abuse of intelligence over Iraq by Carne Ross, a diplomat at Britain's UN mission in New York. His evidence, in which he says the government privately assessed that Iraq possessed no significant quantity of weapons of mass destruction, has been published on the Commons foreign affairs committee website. Mr Ross gave evidence to the group last month but some MPs had been reluctant to have it published

*****

"At no time did assess that Iraq's WMD (or any other capability) posed a threat to the UK," he told the Butler committee. "On the contrary, it was the commonly-held view among the officials dealing with Iraq that any threat had been effectively contained ... At the same time, we would frequently argue, when the US raised the subject, that 'regime change' was inadvisable, primarily on the grounds that Iraq would collapse into chaos."
<http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/justify/2006/1216threat.htm>

Bush Was Set on Path to War,
Memo by British Adviser Says


By Don Van Natta Jr

In the weeks before the United States-led invasion of Iraq, as the United States and Britain pressed for a second United Nations resolution condemning Iraq, President Bush's public ultimatum to Saddam Hussein was blunt: Disarm or face war.

But behind closed doors, the president was certain that war was inevitable. During a private two-hour meeting in the Oval Office on Jan. 31, 2003, he made clear to Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain that he was determined to invade Iraq without the second resolution, or even if international arms inspectors failed to find unconventional weapons, said a confidential memo about the meeting written by Mr. Blair's top foreign policy adviser and reviewed by the New York Times.
<http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/justify/2006/0327memo.htm>


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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:25 AM
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29. Oh just shrug, shrug it off. Sigh. What a shame. Now watch this drive!
:puke:
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Memekiller Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 10:33 AM
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30. Intelligence disappointed in Bush before war
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 11:01 AM
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31. Never use the word "intelligence".....
in the same article as Bush. The two just don't go together.

Again, I am so embarrassed for my country that this idiot has had 8 years to run our country into the ground.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:03 PM
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32. what a load of crap!
:mad:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:55 PM
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34. The Face of Disappointment...


DO SOMETHING!!!, you worthless piece-of-shit!
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:54 PM
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35. Sheet. Bush and Cheney browbeat the Intelligence Community
to come up with Saddam as a threat crap. Cheney spent the summer of 2002 over at the CIA trying to get them to jump on his war wagon; as one official there said he was practically "a potted plant". Bush tried to get his counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke to "find" a link between 911 and Saddam. Clarke said attacking Iraq after 9/11 was akin to attacking Mexico after the (((Germans))) attacked us at Pearl Harbor.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:23 PM
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36. No Child Left Behind punishes schools that...
just aren't making the grade. Let's apply NCLB standards to the Intel community.

If Dumbya is telling the truth, he ought to be cutting off the funding for all those Intel agencies that gave him bad info.

Hey... let's apply NCLB standards to the presidency. That's and Idea!!

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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:33 PM
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37. Horse shit. His people were the ones who helped drum up the outright lies, and twist
what was actually true right into a lie; he was no more misled than a mafia boss is about the activities of his underlings.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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38. Bush Says Electing Democratic President Could Lead to New Attack On U.S.
Source: Fox News

WASHINGTON — President George W. Bush said Tuesday he was disappointed in "flawed intelligence" before the Iraq war and was concerned that if a Democrat wins the presidency in November and withdrew troops prematurely it could "eventually lead to another attack on the United States."

A question submitted from the online audience asked Bush whether he felt he had been misled about Iraq as he made the decision to go to war.

"`Misled' is a strong word," he said. "Not only our intelligence community, but intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was."

"Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don't. I think it was just, you know, they analyzed the situation and came up with the wrong conclusion," he added.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355521,00.html
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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39. ...By Republicans.
MIHOP. 'Nuff said.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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40. Ah yes, the mysterious "they" . It certainly isn't his fault for
anything....:grr:.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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41. I don't think Al Quaeda cares much, they also attack when Republicans are presidents too.
Both Clinton and Obama know that.

(09/11/2001)

I agree, let's not do anything prematurely. Especially regarding Iraq.
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That Is Quite Enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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42. Every day of the Bush administration's reign...
...has been an attack on America.

But oh well. I hope people are finally sick and tired of these overused 'threats.'
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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43. Oy, jeesh
Here we go again!!! Who has that picture of the guy with the headache?


The same fucking crap, over and over and over again. Broken records run smoother than the indoctrination of the American people by pukes. Is this going to continue for the next 500 years?

What a fucking putz!


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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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48. It's the instant replay of Cheney's "The danger is we'll get hit again"
Cheney: Kerry Victory Is Risky
Democrats Decry Talk as Scare Tactic

By Dana Milbank and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, September 8, 2004; Page A01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2917-2004Sep7.html

COLUMBIA, Mo., Sept. 7 -- Vice President Cheney warned on Tuesday that if John F. Kerry is elected, "the danger is that we'll get hit again" by terrorists, as the Bush campaign escalated a furious assault on the Democratic presidential nominee that has kept Kerry from gaining control of the election debate.

In Des Moines, Cheney went beyond previous restraints to suggest that the country would be more vulnerable to attack under Kerry. "It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on November 2nd, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again," the vice president said, "that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States, and that we'll fall back into the pre-9/11 mind-set, if you will, that in fact these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts and that we are not really at war."
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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57. Indeed
They've become so predictable. Same old shit, different year.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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55. .
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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56. Yup--
That's the one. Thanks!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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44. Well my fear is and has been for some time that this attack might come...
prior to the November election.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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58. The pukes have become known
for their "October surprise" in every critical year since 2001. I really do wonder why so many people do listen to all the doom and gloom. So many people are really the genetic equivalent of Pavlov's dogs--at least those 28% of bushhuggers out there.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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45. LIAR
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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46. georgie, weren't you squatting in the oval office when 9/11 occurred?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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47. get thee to the Hague, assclown
I'm sick of listening to your war criminal ramblings.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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49. Fear, more fear, and a double scoop of terra. ... Must be an election coming up.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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50. Didn't he steal that line from Giuliani?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:46 PM
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51. He says a lot of stupid things. Voters have learned not to listen
There will probably be an attack shortly after the new government is sworn in because that's the timing they've used in the past.

However, a Democratic government will track down, try and imprison all the attackers.

Hell, they might even find out where Osama bin Laden is holed up and get him to sing.

And that has got to cause the crime family in power some serious nightmares.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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52. By his own logic, 9/11 was brought on by his selection.
And there's a great case to be made that the negligence of his administration achieved just that. But his logic still sucks.
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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53. Blaming someone else, he takes no responsibility
oh well, still wasn't a mistake.
Saddam bad, him good :crazy:
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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73. You forgot, this is the republican party you are talking about *grin*
Edited on Wed May-14-08 05:28 PM by cstanleytech
Responsability is not something they accept willingly especially when they screw up as badly as they have these past few years.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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54. OOGA BOOGA!
BOO!

Nice try Dude, but no go. :eyes:

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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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59. ...
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!


I'm so SCARED!







I got just one thing to say to the Chimp:





SHUT UP YOU FUCKING LOON!




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Perry Mason Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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60. SSDD
I believe they make this veiled threat at every election, but the attack occured on their watch and they have as yet failed to capture or even identify our attackers.

It speaks more of the media that they would air this unchallenged than it does of the mental defective who said it.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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61. Aw jeez, not this shit again!!
Bush, do us all a favor and please JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP for the remainder of your criminal illegal presidency. No one except the totally deranged 29% of your worshiping acolytes are listening to you anyway. Please spare us the aggreivation of having to hear your stupid voice!!
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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63. "spare us the aggravation of having to hear your stupid voice!!"
I'm glad I only have to read his stupid voice.What a mentally deranged evil clown.:(
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biermeister Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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62. carefully read this and tell me what you think is going to happen
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive


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NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51

HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20

Subject: National Continuity Policy

Purpose

(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.

Definitions

(2) In this directive:

(a) "Category" refers to the categories of executive departments and agencies listed in Annex A to this directive;

(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;

(c) "Continuity of Government," or "COG," means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government's executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;

(d) "Continuity of Operations," or "COOP," means an effort within individual executive departments and agencies to ensure that Primary Mission-Essential Functions continue to be performed during a wide range of emergencies, including localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies;

(e) "Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;

(f) "Executive Departments and Agencies" means the executive departments enumerated in 5 U.S.C. 101, independent establishments as defined by 5 U.S.C. 104(1), Government corporations as defined by 5 U.S.C. 103(1), and the United States Postal Service;

(g) "Government Functions" means the collective functions of the heads of executive departments and agencies as defined by statute, regulation, presidential direction, or other legal authority, and the functions of the legislative and judicial branches;

(h) "National Essential Functions," or "NEFs," means that subset of Government Functions that are necessary to lead and sustain the Nation during a catastrophic emergency and that, therefore, must be supported through COOP and COG capabilities; and

(i) "Primary Mission Essential Functions," or "PMEFs," means those Government Functions that must be performed in order to support or implement the performance of NEFs before, during, and in the aftermath of an emergency.

Policy

(3) It is the policy of the United States to maintain a comprehensive and effective continuity capability composed of Continuity of Operations and Continuity of Government programs in order to ensure the preservation of our form of government under the Constitution and the continuing performance of National Essential Functions under all conditions.

Implementation Actions

(4) Continuity requirements shall be incorporated into daily operations of all executive departments and agencies. As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received. Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted Government Functions. Risk management principles shall be applied to ensure that appropriate operational readiness decisions are based on the probability of an attack or other incident and its consequences.

(5) The following NEFs are the foundation for all continuity programs and capabilities and represent the overarching responsibilities of the Federal Government to lead and sustain the Nation during a crisis, and therefore sustaining the following NEFs shall be the primary focus of the Federal Government leadership during and in the aftermath of an emergency that adversely affects the performance of Government Functions:

(a) Ensuring the continued functioning of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government;

(b) Providing leadership visible to the Nation and the world and maintaining the trust and confidence of the American people;

(c) Defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and preventing or interdicting attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(d) Maintaining and fostering effective relationships with foreign nations;

(e) Protecting against threats to the homeland and bringing to justice perpetrators of crimes or attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(f) Providing rapid and effective response to and recovery from the domestic consequences of an attack or other incident;

(g) Protecting and stabilizing the Nation's economy and ensuring public confidence in its financial systems; and

(h) Providing for critical Federal Government services that address the national health, safety, and welfare needs of the United States.

(6) The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination.

(7) For continuity purposes, each executive department and agency is assigned to a category in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities in support of the Federal Government's ability to sustain the NEFs. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall serve as the President's lead agent for coordinating overall continuity operations and activities of executive departments and agencies, and in such role shall perform the responsibilities set forth for the Secretary in sections 10 and 16 of this directive.

(8) The National Continuity Coordinator, in consultation with the heads of appropriate executive departments and agencies, will lead the development of a National Continuity Implementation Plan (Plan), which shall include prioritized goals and objectives, a concept of operations, performance metrics by which to measure continuity readiness, procedures for continuity and incident management activities, and clear direction to executive department and agency continuity coordinators, as well as guidance to promote interoperability of Federal Government continuity programs and procedures with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate. The Plan shall be submitted to the President for approval not later than 90 days after the date of this directive.

(9) Recognizing that each branch of the Federal Government is responsible for its own continuity programs, an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall ensure that the executive branch's COOP and COG policies in support of ECG efforts are appropriately coordinated with those of the legislative and judicial branches in order to ensure interoperability and allocate national assets efficiently to maintain a functioning Federal Government.

(10) Federal Government COOP, COG, and ECG plans and operations shall be appropriately integrated with the emergency plans and capabilities of State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to promote interoperability and to prevent redundancies and conflicting lines of authority. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall coordinate the integration of Federal continuity plans and operations with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to provide for the delivery of essential services during an emergency.

(11) Continuity requirements for the Executive Office of the President (EOP) and executive departments and agencies shall include the following:

(a) The continuation of the performance of PMEFs during any emergency must be for a period up to 30 days or until normal operations can be resumed, and the capability to be fully operational at alternate sites as soon as possible after the occurrence of an emergency, but not later than 12 hours after COOP activation;

(b) Succession orders and pre-planned devolution of authorities that ensure the emergency delegation of authority must be planned and documented in advance in accordance with applicable law;

(c) Vital resources, facilities, and records must be safeguarded, and official access to them must be provided;

(d) Provision must be made for the acquisition of the resources necessary for continuity operations on an emergency basis;

(e) Provision must be made for the availability and redundancy of critical communications capabilities at alternate sites in order to support connectivity between and among key government leadership, internal elements, other executive departments and agencies, critical partners, and the public;

(f) Provision must be made for reconstitution capabilities that allow for recovery from a catastrophic emergency and resumption of normal operations; and

(g) Provision must be made for the identification, training, and preparedness of personnel capable of relocating to alternate facilities to support the continuation of the performance of PMEFs.

(12) In order to provide a coordinated response to escalating threat levels or actual emergencies, the Continuity of Government Readiness Conditions (COGCON) system establishes executive branch continuity program readiness levels, focusing on possible threats to the National Capital Region. The President will determine and issue the COGCON Level. Executive departments and agencies shall comply with the requirements and assigned responsibilities under the COGCON program. During COOP activation, executive departments and agencies shall report their readiness status to the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Secretary's designee.

(13) The Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall:

(a) Conduct an annual assessment of executive department and agency continuity funding requests and performance data that are submitted by executive departments and agencies as part of the annual budget request process, in order to monitor progress in the implementation of the Plan and the execution of continuity budgets;

(b) In coordination with the National Continuity Coordinator, issue annual continuity planning guidance for the development of continuity budget requests; and

(c) Ensure that heads of executive departments and agencies prioritize budget resources for continuity capabilities, consistent with this directive.

(14) The Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy shall:

(a) Define and issue minimum requirements for continuity communications for executive departments and agencies, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President;

(b) Establish requirements for, and monitor the development, implementation, and maintenance of, a comprehensive communications architecture to integrate continuity components, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President; and

(c) Review quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities, as prepared pursuant to section 16(d) of this directive or otherwise, and report the results and recommended remedial actions to the National Continuity Coordinator.

(15) An official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall:

(a) Advise the President, the Chief of Staff to the President, the APHS/CT, and the APNSA on COGCON operational execution options; and

(b) Consult with the Secretary of Homeland Security in order to ensure synchronization and integration of continuity activities among the four categories of executive departments and agencies.

(16) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall:

(a) Coordinate the implementation, execution, and assessment of continuity operations and activities;

(b) Develop and promulgate Federal Continuity Directives in order to establish continuity planning requirements for executive departments and agencies;

(c) Conduct biennial assessments of individual department and agency continuity capabilities as prescribed by the Plan and report the results to the President through the APHS/CT;

(d) Conduct quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities in consultation with an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(e) Develop, lead, and conduct a Federal continuity training and exercise program, which shall be incorporated into the National Exercise Program developed pursuant to Homeland Security Presidential Directive-8 of December 17, 2003 ("National Preparedness"), in consultation with an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(f) Develop and promulgate continuity planning guidance to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators;

(g) Make available continuity planning and exercise funding, in the form of grants as provided by law, to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators; and

(h) As Executive Agent of the National Communications System, develop, implement, and maintain a comprehensive continuity communications architecture.

(17) The Director of National Intelligence, in coordination with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall produce a biennial assessment of the foreign and domestic threats to the Nation's continuity of government.

(18) The Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall provide secure, integrated, Continuity of Government communications to the President, the Vice President, and, at a minimum, Category I executive departments and agencies.

(19) Heads of executive departments and agencies shall execute their respective department or agency COOP plans in response to a localized emergency and shall:

(a) Appoint a senior accountable official, at the Assistant Secretary level, as the Continuity Coordinator for the department or agency;

(b) Identify and submit to the National Continuity Coordinator the list of PMEFs for the department or agency and develop continuity plans in support of the NEFs and the continuation of essential functions under all conditions;

(c) Plan, program, and budget for continuity capabilities consistent with this directive;

(d) Plan, conduct, and support annual tests and training, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, in order to evaluate program readiness and ensure adequacy and viability of continuity plans and communications systems; and

(e) Support other continuity requirements, as assigned by category, in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities

General Provisions

(20) This directive shall be implemented in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. 19), with consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved. Heads of executive departments and agencies shall ensure that appropriate support is available to the Vice President and others involved as necessary to be prepared at all times to implement those provisions.

(21) This directive:

(a) Shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and the authorities of agencies, or heads of agencies, vested by law, and subject to the availability of appropriations;

(b) Shall not be construed to impair or otherwise affect (i) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, and legislative proposals, or (ii) the authority of the Secretary of Defense over the Department of Defense, including the chain of command for military forces from the President, to the Secretary of Defense, to the commander of military forces, or military command and control procedures; and

(c) Is not intended to, and does not, create any rights or benefits, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

(22) Revocation. Presidential Decision Directive 67 of October 21, 1998 ("Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of Government Operations"), including all Annexes thereto, is hereby revoked.

(23) Annex A and the classified Continuity Annexes, attached hereto, are hereby incorporated into and made a part of this directive.

(24) Security. This directive and the information contained herein shall be protected from unauthorized disclosure, provided that, except for Annex A, the Annexes attached to this directive are classified and shall be accorded appropriate handling, consistent with applicable Executive Orders.

GEORGE W. BUSH

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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66. "Continuity of Government,"
Scary! Do you think he'll do it?
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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64. Cheney said the same thing in 04
Edited on Wed May-14-08 04:57 PM by The Wizard
And Hammas supports Barack Obama.
Cleaning up elephant shit: It's what Democrats do.
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ToughLuck Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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65. The jerk of all jerks..Mr Fear Monger himself..a bastard right up til the end.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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67. It's not so funny when you think about how many R seats
Edited on Wed May-14-08 05:04 PM by bluesmail
they've lost already, with a brand new shiny bombs away they might (ok, will) declare martial law. Someone here recently said everybody on the chess board, EVEN the Queen is sacrificed. I hope the D's are playing chess as well as The King is.
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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68. ARREST THAT MAN NOW! that is a fucking threat! arrest him! n/t
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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69. Fear mongering POS,.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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70. Ah the fear card rears it head and on fox news,
I am willing to bet that no one here is really shocked that Bush or fox news would try to play that card lol
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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72. You Mean Cheney Will Attack Us Again
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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75. I still cant believe they let him get away without doing a breathalyzer test NT
Edited on Wed May-14-08 05:30 PM by cstanleytech
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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74. He'll even pay for it himself.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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76. Who was president on September 11, 2001?
You were George.
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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:04 PM
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82. and all he did was run away like the little pathetic coward he is n/t
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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77. "intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment." - yes, NO WMD's. Idiot.
(n/t)
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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78. It didn't work in '06, and it won't work now.
The American people, or the sane ones at least, aren't going to be scared like that any more.
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nbcouch Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:47 PM
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79. Does anyone pay attention to this asswipe anymore? n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 05:48 PM
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80. Bushler knows we will be attacked because he will have his al-Qaeda pals do it for him
Just like on 9/11.
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