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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:19 AM
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Kenyans burn alive 11 'witches'
Source: BBC News

Eleven women accused of being witches have been burned to death by a mob in the west of Kenya, police say.

A security operation has been launched to hunt down villagers suspected of killing the women in Kisii District.

The area has witnessed similar attacks in the past when people suspected of engaging in witchcraft have been killed or ostracised.

But correspondents say that this is a surprisingly large number of people to be attacked at the same time.


Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7413268.stm



Blimey.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:20 AM
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1. Oh brother, when will we enter the 21st century.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:37 AM
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17. Jeb Bush used to do it with FLORIDA'S ELECTRIC CHAIR
After one particularly gruesome execution, a "LIBERAL" Judge remarked the photos were akin to what it was like, being "Burned at the stake"

Jeb on the other hand ran into his office after viewing the photos and Masturbated vigorously.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:38 PM
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28. So did almost all Florida Governor before Bush
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:20 AM
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2. I guess there was not water around to see if they would sink or float?
:eyes:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:36 AM
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7. Witches are powerless against fire when tied to a stake
Edited on Wed May-21-08 10:36 AM by ohio2007
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:24 PM
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22. Zimbabwe has a grave shortage of ducks.
But man...burning people at the stake? Forget entering the 21st century, Zimbabwe; you're still working on the 18th!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:21 AM
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3. Unimaginable way to go
The possibility of burning alive is the reason I keep a knife close by in my car.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:22 AM
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4. I keep a fire extinguisher in mine for the same reason
The knife is for any other purpose.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:27 AM
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5. Yes, indeed, DS1
Seat belt and/or femoral arteries!

:scared:
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:34 AM
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6. Did the villagers see the documentary on Jesus camp?
I swear I heard a bunch of kids say they couldn't see or read Harry Potter because that was witch craft and god didn't want them to suffer a witch in their midsts. Whatever the hell that means.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:38 AM
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8. It means when mainstream voices don't shout down the crazies
horrible things will start to happen in any culture.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:46 AM
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10. Jesus camp was on last night on the Bio station so I and the SO
watched it. SO who I been with for 5 years has never said much about religion in her life, heck I don't even know if she had been baptized or what brand of religion she is. Anyhow, about 1/2 way though the thing SO looked like she was going to puke and she kept yelling at the TV the kids were being abused. By the end of it the SO wanted to go after the crazy woman who run the camp.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:04 PM
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25. It was on the Biography channel last night.
It's a good movie. I thought that Becky was a truly talented woman who knows how to relate to kids, and is creative in her approach to coming up with activities for them. It is so unfortunate that her religious beliefs have made her crazy, because she would be an excellent teacher, otherwise.

It's funny to look at the kids' faces during the scenes where they are speaking in tongues and testifying-you can tell the kids who are there because their parents made them go from the true believers.

But for all you guys out there that worry about them being brainwashed, keep this in mind: Evangelical colleges are expensive. State colleges are not as expensive. Most of the parents aren't going to be able to afford to send them to private colleges, so once those kids enroll at MSU or whatever public university they choose, they will get a chance to learn other perspectives.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:39 PM
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27. I knew a guy that was first home schooled, then later entered a Baptists school, then went on to
a Baptist college. His first and only real job, he now does odd jobs for family and friends to eek out a living of sorts, was a 7/11 clerk. I felt sorry for him because he had a complete lack of street smarts. He got with a young lady that told him she was a good christian, who then took most of his pay checks, ( he knew she was a good christian because she wasn't putting out to him ), and the whole time she was sleeping with 5 or 6 other guys spending his money on them, he caught her on a day off. A year after he started working for 7/11 he got fired after the top 7/11 execs found out the franchise owner of the store was pocketing most of the stores sells, it made them wonder when the store went from making almost $50,000.00 a month down to $900 a month in a 6 month period. They also charged 3 of the 6 clerks with theft, my friend got out because he turned against the owner and told the execs that he saw the owner coming in at 3 and 4 in the morning to take money out of the store safe, the owner got 6 years for his theft, my friend was charged as an accessory but charges were dropped for his testimony. Even to this day he walks around lost and confused because everything that he was taught by the schools didn't prepare him for the worlds realities. It didn't help that while going through all the legal stuff mom and dad being the good christians they were threw him out of their home because he was tainted by the heathens because he got into trouble with the law. Never mind that not once did he steal or do anything wrong himself, the family name got brought up in court. All of this stuff is still on his work record so he isn't able to find any place to hire him.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:16 PM
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33. They raise religiously insane children who can't deal with
life since they've been so protected.
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:44 AM
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9. root of all evil

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9002284641446868316


The Root of All Evil? Part 1: The God Delusion. (Richard Dawkins, 2006) -
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:54 PM
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24. You can't blame Christianity for this
There are beliefs in black magic throughout the world, even in areas (like Nepal), which have almost no Christian influence.

Besides, by the time the missionaries arrived in Africa, Christianity had given up going after witches.
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Spouting Horn Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:14 PM
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29. It's generally in Islamic
countries in which witches are dealt with severely.

Sorcery and Witchcraft is an officially sanctioned death sentence in Saudi Arabia (and unofficially in mny more countries).
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:07 PM
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30. The old Catholic church used to burn women (witches)
Edited on Wed May-21-08 11:08 PM by mac2
to prevent them from doing medical cures, etc.(heralists). They wanted the power for themselves. Just think of the medical cures which went up in smoke? Over many years many died yet the church has not apologized for that deed like they did regarding their support of Hitler.

The witch burning is just a scare tactic against those women telling about the exual abuse, etc.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:35 PM
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34.  Yes, but my point was that missionary activity in Kenya occurred AFTER
Christians had stopped having witch hunts and that many non-Christian ethnic groups around the world believe that certain people have evil magical powers.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:22 AM
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36. Whoever is spreading these rumors and hate against women
Edited on Thu May-22-08 06:25 AM by mac2
do it for fear and power reasons. It may be Empire Building you think? That can be religious organizations or otherwise.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:24 AM
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37. Left out the "s" in sexual abuse.
I am sorry for my typing.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:56 AM
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11. Oh yeah, how IS that faith-based foreign aid initiative going, btw?
:hide:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:11 PM
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32. Kenya was never an issue until Obama was it?
Edited on Wed May-21-08 11:14 PM by mac2
Not that he might be involved but it is his father's homeland.

Kenya resources. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_natural_resources_of_Kenya

Africa is under attack by Neo Cons to be a African Union. It is rich in many resources such as diamonds, oil, gold, etc.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 10:56 AM
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12. So... when does John Hagee
go over there to study their technique?
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:02 AM
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13. A return to the Dark Ages....
Edited on Wed May-21-08 11:02 AM by vinylsolution
This is what James Dobson, Pat Robertson et al dream of.....



But it's no laughing matter. You have to wonder what McCain thinks about it?
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:03 AM
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14. That's unimaginably horrible.
Those poor women.

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The Political Jerk Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:14 AM
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15. In all fairness, they probably were witches.
After all, this is the 15th century, isn't it?

-The Political Jerk
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:28 AM
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38. More like the 13th Century Dark Ages with religious wars and
witch hunts. King Bush and his religious wars for a Christan/Judo crusade. He can get on his white horse and lead the charge...if he can stay on the horse.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:26 AM
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16. One of them prolly turned Barack into a newt
He got better :eyes:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:55 AM
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18. In related news, Repuke Paul Broun of Georgia wants to "save marriage" from gay magic...
Federal Anti-Gay Amendment Returns In Wake Of Calif. Ruling
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x74963
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:58 AM
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19. self delete
Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:12 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:31 AM
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39. If the divorce rate goes down in those RW states why not?
They should copy New Jersey (a liberal state) since they have fewer divorces.

If those "RW men" want new and young girls when their wife gets old, its as good an excuse as any.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:58 AM
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20. OMG!
:cry:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:22 PM
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21. Even though they were hysterical and BS charges and not really witches.....
The term still strikes a deep rooted fear in the hearts of Pagans everywhere. It is one reason that of my tattoos, none directly refer to my faith. Never know when things may go backwards.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:38 PM
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23. Thats how things are in Nepal where its a known that witches don't like to eat 'excrement'
Dalit Women Accused of Witchcraft, Forced to Eat Excrement, January 19, 2006
http://www.advocacynet.org/resource/574
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:40 AM
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41. OMFG
:puke:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:20 AM
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35. "Witches" are their new "terrorists".
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:08 AM
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40. Sounds like VooDoo economics.... nt
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:23 PM
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26. People don't have to be Christians to burn witches
Many indigenous tribes, even those who were basically deist, believed in witches, sorcerers, evildoers, evil eye, evil spirits, etc.

Thought I'd point that out, since the usual "Jesus is the root of all evil" posting will probably start.

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:09 PM
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31. All in the name of "security". Where have we heard this
before. Are they after diamonds or what?
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