Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Sharon Stone films banned in China after 'karma' comment

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:57 AM
Original message
Sharon Stone films banned in China after 'karma' comment
Source: CNN

The 50-year-old actress suggested last week that the devastating May 12 earthquake in China could have been the result of bad karma over the government's treatment of Tibet. That prompted the founder of one of China's biggest cinema chains to say his company would not show her films in his theaters, according to a story in The Hollywood Reporter.

"I'm not happy about the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans because I don't think anyone should be unkind to anyone else," Stone said Thursday during a Cannes Film Festival red-carpet interview with Hong Kong's Cable Entertainment News. "And then this earthquake and all this stuff happened, and then I thought, is that karma? When you're not nice that the bad things happen to you?"

Ng See-Yuen, founder of the UME Cineplex chain and the chairman of the Federation of Hong Kong Filmmakers, called Stone's comments "inappropriate," adding that actors should not bring personal politics to comments about a natural disaster that has left five million Chinese homeless, according to the Reporter.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/05/28/stone.karma.ap/index.html



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:00 AM
Response to Original message
1. Yes and we all know how and spiritual ex porn stars can be. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:04 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. That's right. No one ever grows or changes.
All the kids who ever stole a cookie from a jar face ETERNAL DAMNATION.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #2
12. Oh she grew and changed, she became a movie star.
And I still don't give a crap about what she has to say.

It all sounds like made up news designed for distraction.

The statement doesn't even make sense. What did Tibet do to get their bad karma?

And I still don't give a crap about her opinion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #12
47. And I give just as little for your opinion as well when you put it that way. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #2
23. Spiral:
Please don't feed the animals!

Maybe if no pays attention they'll go away...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #23
27. Ok, I take it back, Porn Stars are not known to be spiritual.
Does that make you feel better?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #27
34. probably so, but she's not a porn star
what's up with your fixation on porn stars?

i can't find a single shred of evidence that she ever appeared in a pornographic film.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #27
40. What she said is correct, regardless
of anything she may have done in the past.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:11 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. what porn movies was she in?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #3
17. none.
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #17
28. Showing off her naked body was how she started in movies. With an IQ of 140 something
you would think she could have used her brain instead of her nakedness.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #28
32. Welcome to Hollywood, Baby!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #28
33. showing your naked body in a movie does NOT equal pornography....
she started her movie career in 1980. i'm not familiar with all her films but i think the first time she did any serious nudity was with basic instincts and that was 1992, hardly the start of her career. besides, what do you have against nudity?

with her high IQ she obviously did use her brain as she got into a business that made her quite wealthy.

i'm not sticking up for what she said about karma referring to the earthquake in china. it was a stupid comment, obviously, since the people in china that suffered were the innocent citizens and not the corrupt government. i'm sure looking back at the statement now, she wishes she could take it back.

that said, let's not just start making stuff up about her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #33
36. if she gets paid for it may equal prostitution of her image
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. huh?
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #28
41. They do more than show off their bodies in porn, honey
Grow up, willya?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:26 AM
Response to Reply #1
8. Now there's a comment
to make DU proud
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:41 AM
Response to Reply #1
9. That's a shitty comment to make about someone with 2 Oscar nominations
Yes, her comment was out of line but Sharon Stone has been a major activist for such issues as AIDs research and Darfur.

Sharon should apologize for her comment. Yes China has seriously done some bad human rights violations but that doesnt' justify using karma to blame for the death of all those innocent people in China.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:46 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. I was just about to post but you've said it all
and addressed the top response in addition. Thanks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #9
15. Oh, we Americans certainly worship our movie actresses. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #15
48. Who says I worship her - you assume way too much
I do respect her for the activist work that she has done. I for one believe in Celebrities who have their pet causes because it helps bring the issue to the attention of the common folks. You think any of us (not just DUers but general population especially here in the US) would know about Darfur if it wasn't for folks like George Clooney and Don Cheadle constantly bringing up the topic? Because our news media was barely covering it. Hell that's how I learned about it because Darfur was getting absolutely no other press from the media. It was a lil human rights drama best swept under the rug - at least that's how the media treated it.

And let's face it - AIDs exploded in the 80s under an administration (Reagan) that refused to acknowldge it or pay any money to actually deal with it. And it was once again the Celebrities that came out and said "This is not right" and not only help raise the funds to fight this disease but help put pressure on our government to do more.

So again, I'm not giving Stone a free pass on a comment that was truly unwarranted but I'm not about to treat her like some cheap porn star or religious nut job either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #9
35. i think fasttense needs a little more cowbell
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
42. What a Simpleton Thing to Say
Edited on Wed May-28-08 01:35 PM by fascisthunter
So now a women who flaunts her beauty or sexiness in movies is a "porn star"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
46. The latest in a string of misogynist statements on DU.
Really, why all this hatred for women on this site?

I was frankly really embarrassed by the sort of mean-spirited comments about Anna Nicole, and Lohan and other female actresses. Sure there lives are in the limelight as an occupational hazard, but the kind of shit spewing that passes for criticism around here is sometimes appalling.

Suffice it to say, her remark was pretty stupid. It ranks up there with Falwell blaming 9/11 on Gay people, but suggesting that sex workers can't be spiritual, or that Sharon Stone is a porn star even for some pretty tame nudity is just as stupid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:14 AM
Response to Original message
4. I wonder what bad things the Tibetans are doing to deserve the bad karma they have?
Using Stone's logic, the Tibetans must have done something really bad and gotten bad karma to deserve the oppression they are now under.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:20 AM
Response to Original message
5. Sounds like the kind of remark we would expect from Fred Phelps
Or various other right wing preachers.

She made a fool of herself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #5
29. Stupid remarks
are not only limited to the right, sadly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:24 AM
Response to Original message
6. Pat Robertson in drag?
Jerry Falwell reincarnated?

WTF!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #6
11. Are you fucking kidding me?
Seriously!

Yes her comments were bad.

But if you knew anything about Sharon Stone she is hardly anything like those to religious nutjobs.

She has been very outspoken about Darfur, perhaps that was where that comment came from.

It was wrong for her to do it but it's wrong for you to compare her to 2 people who she has nothing in common with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:25 AM
Response to Reply #11
21. That may be
I admit to knowing little about Stone's progressive agenda, but it cannot be denied that her comments are analogous to Robertson's. Saying that the death of thousands, caused by a natural disaster, was due to gays, lesbians, or the actions of a corrupt government does a disservice to the powers that be, whether god or karma.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #21
31. My thoughts exactly.
I'm a little suprised at Sharon Stone going down this judgemental road.

The people that were killed or are homeless, they were just people, not evil govt's.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #21
39. Exactly
Yes, she has done a lot of good work. But this is no different than a Robertson or Falwell comment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:25 AM
Response to Original message
7. Under this theory America would have been crushed repeatedly by quakes
I'm fairly certain that few countries carry with it as much "bad karma" as we do for our murdering of innocent Iraqis.

Rp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. well lets see
Germany? Russia? China? Japan? Sudan? Iran? England? Every country that participated in the slave trade?

There's plenty of evil to go around, we dont have a monopoly on it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #10
19. Which adds to the point that the karma argument is stupid.
But I find it odd that Americans seem to make that argument the most. They made that argument during the Tsunami as well and it was sickening. Of course these same people also used that argument to blame gays for 9/11 and a city of sin for it's own destruction in Katrina.


Rp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #7
30. hahaha... I hate to tell you this but the US is only most current dickhead on the world stage...
There were many in the past and will be many in the future.... It has something to do with power and greed...

But other than that, I think you're right about her screwy theory.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:47 AM
Response to Original message
14. How is this any different than the *ssholes I know who wander around saying:
"Everything happens for a reason!"

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:06 AM
Response to Original message
16. So, Sharon, should we be karmically punished for Bush's crimes against humanity?
Shouldn't we be held just as responsible as you evidently hold the Chinese people? Hell, we actually participate in the selection of our leaders--in theory, anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:18 AM
Response to Original message
18. What a stupid thing for her to say. And New Orleans got hit by Katrina ....
because it was going to have a gay parade, per Rev. Hagee. And New York got hit by the "ter'ists" because it is a sinful city, per...was it Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell?

Ridiculous thing for her to say. I hope she gets hard financially.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:22 AM
Response to Original message
20. I believe in karmic payback
But I don't believe it is collective punishment, WTF Sharon?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:26 AM
Response to Original message
22. That ignorant fool asked for it
Talking about karma...lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:38 AM
Response to Original message
24. Censorship
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:45 AM
Response to Original message
25. Reminds me of some comments about Katrina victims.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:46 AM
Response to Original message
26. What a stupid and insensitive comment.
People are dead. So thousands of poor slave laborers paid the price by her logic.

Yeah, that'll show those commies.

I'm no fan of China. I wish we could cut off their imports and stiff them on the billions we owe them.

I'm no fan of this unthinking "actress" either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
37. She's wrong about the karma aspect, but not about the treatment of the tibetans
The chinese government is about to bask in overwhelmingly positive publicity with the upcoming Olympics. They are changing for the better, hopefully, but they still persecute christians, falung gong practitioners and dissidents. They use those political prisoners as slave labor, too.

I will never forget the chinese military opening fire on the protestors in Tianaman Square. It was brutal. It was done in full knowlege that the whole world was watching on tv, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:35 PM
Response to Original message
43. She should Know Better
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:48 PM
Response to Original message
44. China sucks. Check out this horrifying piece on "Market Stalinism" in China by Naomi Klein.
China's All-Seeing Eye
With the help of U.S. defense contractors, China is building the prototype for a high-tech police state. It is ready for export.
NAOMI KLEIN Posted May 29, 2008 3:24 PM
snip--
Such efforts have provided China's rulers with something even more valuable than surveillance technology from Western democracies: the ability to claim that they are just like us. Liu Zhengrong, a senior official dealing with China's Internet policy, has defended Golden Shield and other repressive measures by invoking the Patriot Act and the FBI's massive e-mail-mining operations. "It is clear that any country's legal authorities closely monitor the spread of illegal information," he said. "We have noted that the U.S. is doing a good job on this front." Lin Jiang Huai, the head of China Information Security Technology, credits America for giving him the idea to sell biometric IDs and other surveillance tools to the Chinese police. "Bush helped me get my vision," he has said. Similarly, when challenged on the fact that dome cameras are appearing three to a block in Shenzhen and Guangzhou, Chinese companies respond that their model is not the East German Stasi but modern-day London.
snip--
The Fourth Amendment prohibition against illegal search and seizure made it into the U.S. Constitution precisely because its drafters understood that the power to snoop is addictive. Even if we happen to trust in the good intentions of the snoopers, the nature of any government can change rapidly — which is why the Constitution places limits on the tools available to any regime. But the drafters could never have imagined the commercial pressures at play today. The global homeland-security business is now worth an estimated $200 billion — more than Hollywood and the music industry combined. Any sector of that size inevitably takes on its own momentum. New markets must be found — which, in the Big Brother business, means an endless procession of new enemies and new emergencies: crime, immigration, terrorism.
snip--"I can guarantee you that there are people in the Bush administration who are studying the use of surveillance technologies being developed here and have at least skeletal plans to implement them at home," he says. "We can already see it in New York with CCTV cameras. Once you have the cameras in place, you have the infrastructure for a powerful tracking system. I'm worried about what this will mean if the U.S. government goes totalitarian and starts employing these technologies more than they are already. I'm worried about the threat this poses to American democracy."

Herrington pauses. "George W. Bush,"he adds, "would do what they are doing here in a heartbeat if he could."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20797485/chinas_allseeing_eye

China has the poential to make Orwell's country called "Oceania" in the novel 1984 look like a democratic utopia.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:48 PM
Response to Original message
45. China sucks. Check out this horrifying piece on "Market Stalinism" in China by Naomi Klein.
Edited on Wed May-28-08 02:49 PM by Zorra
China's All-Seeing Eye
With the help of U.S. defense contractors, China is building the prototype for a high-tech police state. It is ready for export.
NAOMI KLEIN Posted May 29, 2008 3:24 PM
snip--
Such efforts have provided China's rulers with something even more valuable than surveillance technology from Western democracies: the ability to claim that they are just like us. Liu Zhengrong, a senior official dealing with China's Internet policy, has defended Golden Shield and other repressive measures by invoking the Patriot Act and the FBI's massive e-mail-mining operations. "It is clear that any country's legal authorities closely monitor the spread of illegal information," he said. "We have noted that the U.S. is doing a good job on this front." Lin Jiang Huai, the head of China Information Security Technology, credits America for giving him the idea to sell biometric IDs and other surveillance tools to the Chinese police. "Bush helped me get my vision," he has said. Similarly, when challenged on the fact that dome cameras are appearing three to a block in Shenzhen and Guangzhou, Chinese companies respond that their model is not the East German Stasi but modern-day London.
snip--
The Fourth Amendment prohibition against illegal search and seizure made it into the U.S. Constitution precisely because its drafters understood that the power to snoop is addictive. Even if we happen to trust in the good intentions of the snoopers, the nature of any government can change rapidly — which is why the Constitution places limits on the tools available to any regime. But the drafters could never have imagined the commercial pressures at play today. The global homeland-security business is now worth an estimated $200 billion — more than Hollywood and the music industry combined. Any sector of that size inevitably takes on its own momentum. New markets must be found — which, in the Big Brother business, means an endless procession of new enemies and new emergencies: crime, immigration, terrorism.
snip--
"I can guarantee you that there are people in the Bush administration who are studying the use of surveillance technologies being developed here and have at least skeletal plans to implement them at home," he says. "We can already see it in New York with CCTV cameras. Once you have the cameras in place, you have the infrastructure for a powerful tracking system. I'm worried about what this will mean if the U.S. government goes totalitarian and starts employing these technologies more than they are already. I'm worried about the threat this poses to American democracy."

Herrington pauses. "George W. Bush,"he adds, "would do what they are doing here in a heartbeat if he could."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20797485/chinas_allseeing_eye

China has the poential to make Orwell's country called "Oceania" in the novel 1984 look like a democratic utopia.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:11 PM
Response to Original message
49. Dumb Comment, Dumb Reaction. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
50. Yes, Sharon Stone should be consulted on any spirtual
problem. Good grief. I'm amazed this has gotten as much attention as it has. Who should care?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:18 PM
Response to Original message
51. Because she stood up for Tibet...
I can see Chinas resentment to that statement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC