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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:17 PM
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Green Beret electrocuted in shower on Iraq base
Source: CNN

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PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A highly decorated Green Beret, Staff Sgt. Ryan Maseth died a painful death in Iraq this year. He died not on the battlefield. He died in what should have been one of the safest spots in Iraq: on a U.S. base, in his bathroom.

The water pump was not properly grounded, and when he turned on the shower, a jolt of electricity shot through his body and electrocuted him January 2.

Maseth, 24, was not the first. At least 12 U.S. troops have been electrocuted in Iraq since the start of the war in 2003, according to military and government officials.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/28/soldier.electrocutions/index.html



This is OUTRAGEOUS!!! :grr: What a huge and tragic waste.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:18 PM
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1. Green Berets don't come cheap
Sorry that sounds so cynical, but it's unlikely to affect KBR's bottom line.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:20 PM
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2. Thanks a lot, Halliburton and KBR...
"Freedom on the march," indeed. One of our best soldiers is dead because of your gross incompetence.

When can we pull the rest of the Green Berets out of Iraq and send them after bin Laden instead?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:22 PM
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3. This is very sad
However when you conside the make shift nature of many of the structures, it's not suprising. My prayers go out to the young man and his family.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:23 PM
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4. 110V has always been a problem.
More sailors (USN) are killed by electricity than all other ship-board accidents combined.

Anywhere there are generators involved, somebody's gonna get hit.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:25 PM
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7. The problem isn't in the power
It's in the grounding, just like in this case.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:31 PM
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12. Exactly.
I didn't intend to imply that the power was the problem.

The problem is almost always human.

I once watched a guy hand-cranking a boat davit while some dumbass Electricians Mate was working on the very switch that controlled the winch.

While the poor deck-ape was cranking the winch, the EM flipped the switch.

All of a sudden, the poor guy on the crank was holding onto a metal crank that was making 600 RPM.

Completely disemboweled the poor bastard.

I stll remember his name. David Halas. And that was almost 40 years ago.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:24 PM
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5. ONE was enough!! The fact that it's now been 12 soldiers electrocuted is
stunning. The level of incompetence boggles the mind. :crazy:

Prayers to the family. How tragic for that poor mother. :(
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:24 PM
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6. More from report
Army documents obtained by CNN show that U.S.-paid contractor Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) inspected the building and found serious electrical problems a full 11 months before Maseth was electrocuted.

KBR noted "several safety issues concerning the improper grounding of electrical devices." But KBR's contract did not cover "fixing potential hazards." It covered repairing items only after they broke down.
Only after Maseth died did the Army issue an emergency order for KBR to finally fix the electrical problems, and that order was carried out soon thereafter.

In an internal e-mail obtained by CNN, a Navy captain admits that the Army should have known "the extent of the severity of the electrical problems." The e-mail then says the reason the Army did not know was because KBR's inspections were never reviewed by a "qualified government employee."


Rep. Henry Waxman has called for an investigation, and at least one of the families is pursuing litigation.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:26 PM
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9. The level of incompetence is truly stunning.
how many more have to die for stupid mistakes like these? :shrug:

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:58 PM
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15. Sounds like murder to me. unintentional, but murder still the same.
murderous negligence? times 12?

intersting, I ahve been noting herre in the LA elections a sinmilar happening: the private companies who run our elections are required to file reports detailing problems. But there is no oversight. there is no public access to the supposed reports, nor a government official responsible for reading them. The companies oversee themselves. stealing our votes, killing people, and stealing public money.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:04 PM
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16. Criminal negligence indeed.
I hope Waxman can get the ball rolling on doing something about this.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:50 PM
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19. Criminally negligent homicide, I think they call it......
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:11 PM
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25. Absolutely.
Abso-fucking-lutely.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:28 PM
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28. If it's "not their job" then fire them and find someone who will do the job.
assholes

:grr:

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:25 PM
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8. Halliburton is working for Al Qaeda


Needs to be said...
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:27 PM
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10. We paid KBR to search for the problems, but not to fix the problems?
Edited on Wed May-28-08 01:28 PM by high density
Then the army didn't even bother to look at the report anyway. Government at its finest.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:07 AM
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32. FIXING the problem? They'll need another $200 million no-bid contract for that
Hey, freedom isn't free.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:30 PM
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11. Saw video for this story. Just as bad or even worse than the Tillman case bc nothing had been done.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:39 PM
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13. Besides electrocution, I do wonder if they check the water quality. Remember that movie Iraq for?
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:54 PM
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22. No they don't
Someone I know got deathly ill over there from the water within the past year. They troops call it "Cheney water".
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:58 PM
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14. Amy Goodman had a piece on this on her show.
Horrible tragedies..... When will this nightmare come to an end?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:05 PM
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17. Stupid question: WHY DIDN'T THEY FIX IT AFTER THE FIRST ONE????
Or shouldn't I ask?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:10 PM
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18. TWELVE? Fuck these greedy scumsucking bastards. It should have been fixed after the first
death.

I. COULD. NOT. BE. ANY. MORE. ANGRY. :mad:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:39 PM
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20. Bush and Cheney wanted this illegal war & their beneficiaries like KBR (Halliburton) etc. have
profited greatly from this illegal war....paid for by us the taxpayer and worse yet, by our soldiers who are sent over there and then die unneccessarily like these 12 soldiers....It's bad enough that our soldiers die in an illegal war, but worse that they die in a shower - built and serviced by KBR and the rest of the profiteers.... :grr:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:50 PM
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21. And the army LIED to the family at first about how it happened.


"Maseth's mother says the Army was not immediately forthcoming with details about her son's death.

At one point, she says, the Army told her he had a small appliance with him in the shower on his base, a former palace complex near the Baghdad airport.

"It just created so much doubt, and I know Ryan, I know Ryan, I know how he was trained, I know that he would not have been in a shower with a small appliance and electrocuted himself," she said.

The Army refused to answer CNN's questions about the case, citing pending litigation by Maseth's family."

source: http://www.wtol.com/global/story.asp?s=8390075


Pat Tillman, anyone? God, this is disgusting.


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darue Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:56 PM
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23. oh this has been talked about for over a year, still nothing's been done
we're the most incompetent country in the world.
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:57 PM
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24. Fuck!n KBR and their great workmanship. Your tax dollars killing your kids.
But making BushCo and CheneyInc. rich.

This would be the fate of many more Americans if we never had Democratic legislation regarding product safety. The rethugs think we need to get out of the oversight of business business. It costs to much. Furthermore if they had their way you wouldn't be able to sue the bastards after they negligently killed you son in the shower with their shitty work. That's "tort reform."
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:22 PM
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26. He's not the first to have that happen to by a long shot. Thank George W. bUsh and KBR.
Doing a heckova job killing our own citizens, let alone other nations' citizens.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:25 PM
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27. The first was an accident, the second was negligent homicide
numbers 3-12, are premeditated murder. KBR knew, and didn't care.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:42 PM
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29. Republicans prove again, government is bad. See. Bad.
Hi, I'm from KBR and I'm here to help.

Yikes!!!

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:50 PM
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30. Twelve!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:54 PM
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31. All over the world soilders are neglected
by the governments they serve so loyally. Not everywhere, but in too many places. What a shame.
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