Hints of 'time before Big Bang'

Source: BBC



Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7440217.stm

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This is going to give the YEC's fits.

Calvin says something like, that's all they could come up with? that's why people don't pay attention to science, they should have called it the giant space kablooie!

edit to add Wiki found me the exact language:
"A Sunday, 21 June 1992 strip discussing the Big Bang coined the term "Horrendous Space Kablooie" for the event, a term which has achieved some tongue-in-cheek popularity among the scientific community, particularly in informal discussion and often shortened to "the HSK".<25> The term has also been referenced in newspapers,<26><27> books,<28> and as a part of university courses;<29> Michael Strauss, associate professor of astrophysical sciences at Princeton University, uses "Horrendous Space Kablooie" and the associated Calvin and Hobbes comic strips in his astronomy lectures.<30>"

They are people who believe that the Earth was created more or less as described in the bible, between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago. Polls usually show that between 45% and 55% of Americans are young-earth creationists.

Dinosaurs were raptured??

I'm sure some of them are. I had a friend in high school who didn't believe in dinosaurs. She was in my brother's chem class, and one day he told me our friend had dropped that bomb on him.

She had gone to a Baptist school the year before, where they literally used the bible in class. For sciency stuff. We in public school were such a bad influence on her. And by bad I mean we pretty much got her to stop believing in God, which in my book is about the best influence you can have on somebody. :P

I applaud your efforts for rationality and honesty!

The Sunday, 21 June 1992 Calvin and Hobbes strip was about Calvin getting stung by a bee.



I scanned through the entire collection and was unable to find anything about a "Horrendous Space Kablooie".

And YECs.

Had a great penchant for Bacon Jalapeno Pizza with Extra Cheese and hi fat Ranch Dressing on the side.

Apparently they consumed this in such massive quantities, and washed it down with kajillions of gallons of rogmulak beer that it was only a matter of time :P

It was getting late, and Xyegkelqm got the bright idea to stick a hexwnekl into the microwave to see what would happen. Since he was qpucgl-faced at the time, he didn't remember to pierce the shell. After a few paqnnkls, the hexwnekl exploded all over interior of the microwave. And so there we are, a molecule of microwave-laced hexwnekl clinging to the interior of the infinite microwave, waiting for the host of the party to squirt some Mr. Kpqknd on us and scrape us off the interior.

That's my theory.

Just about the time the Catholic Church came to grips with the Big Bang, Steven Hawkings decided he wasn't so hot about it. He now thinks that a Big Collapse preceded the Big Bang, maybe even multiple cycles. This is from my memory which is suspect. I haven't read anything by Mr. Hawkings in years.

The above information is free and I think you'll find, worth every penny.

within a universal uterus. I would call the time before the Big Bang, Foreplay Time for lack of a better term.

The early forming rocky planets were the equivalent of barren eggs, the asteroids and comets bringing life giving compounds sperm cells, dark matter serves as the placenta holding everything together while it develops.

"Detailed measurements made by the satellite have shown that the fluctuations in the microwave background are about 10% stronger on one side of the sky than those on the other.

Sean Carroll conceded that this might just be a coincidence, but pointed out that a natural explanation for this discrepancy would be if it represented a structure inherited from our universe's parent.

Meanwhile, Professor Carroll urged cosmologists to broaden their horizons: "We're trained to say there was no time before the Big Bang, when we should say that we don't know whether there was anything - or if there was, what it was."

That 10% stronger on one side is probably the head of our universal body as the head is usually out sized in a fetus. Most everything seems to be continually dividing, and expanding, I imagine until when that bubble pops and then our universe will be born and we will make up its body in one form or another.

I like your theory!

it's just my hypothesis.

There may be an infinite number of universes, and science seems to be pointing in that direction. Physicists are having a hell of a time with the growing rapidity of the expansion of the universe, and I have read more recently about the concept of endless universes than in the previous decade. Great time for speculation.

Reminds me of the terrific Star Trek: Next Generation episode where an endless number of Enterprises popped into view, each with a different story to tell. Cool stuff. I don't know how unique we are, but I hope there's only of these, no matter how many universes may exist:

Can you imagine how must that Earth does NOT suck!!

"All Good Things..." from season 7.

Geek, and proud of it!

idea of the Multiverse? Wouldn't it be wild if the "parent universe" existed in one of the 10 or 11 dimensions put forward by M Theory? We need a whole lot more data here...Man, I love science!!

if THIS was the parent universe?

:scared:

demonstrate the existence of a multiverse?

These things are on the far end of theory, heavily sexed up for mass consumption. Fun to think about, interesting, but too often resemble pseudoscience more than real science.

And I don't have the brainpower to really *get* it. That's so frustrating. It's like I need twice the space in my skull to contain those sort of thoughts.

So cool!

Once they start smashing protons together, it may reveal the existence of additional dimensions of spacetime, additional fundamental particles, and more clues to the basic nature of the universe... or multiverse.


http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/


Only a couple of segments to go before they are all light blue- cooled to the proper temperature.
What a feat of engineering!


More info:

http://www.uslhc.us/What_is_the_LHC

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-discovery-machine-hadron-collider

what if black holes don't actually occur naturally, and only occur when a civilization progresses to the point where they are performing advanced experiments in theoretical physics?

:shrug:

huh? -what if..?

Great Green Arkleseizure?

AC said "Let there be light".

The Universe (of discourse) was begat by the Power (set) of the Null Set, followed by the Power (set) of the Power (set) of the Null Set, and so on and so forth, to (indefinite) infinity.

Don't you see? Can't you see the Great Truth?

Nothing is sacred!

;)

I reveal this truth to you all in my role as a Cardinal of the Church of the Holy Nullity (we have Ordinals, too).

(By now there are two sets of readers: those who've studied mathematics and who are chuckling to themselves, and those who haven't, who are puzzled. The babble above is the mathematics behind number systems where, yes, everything is derived from nothing. Once upon a long time ago I and a number of my fellow 500-level Set Theory students founded The Church of The Holy Nullity in order to promulgate the Great Truth :) Sorry if it goes over most people's heads, but I couldn't resist.)

Dr. Erickcek says our Universe is not the first and best?

That is anti-'Mericun!


Love it or leave it Professor!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

pardon for the difficulty in getting these ideas across, but it does seem coherent to me....

imho, there are two things that can not be changed.

time always was/is/will be. it never started and will never stop. (hence, no "creator". therefore, no "in the beginning", nor "at the end of time"... that pretty much takes care of those two issues...)

if there was a big bang from a mass of everything in the "universe", until it blew it just sat there, biding its "time", until it DID blow.

(my opinion is that there have been, and will be, an infinite number of "big bangs" occurring PRIMARILY because time always has been, and always will be, and space is infinite.

that is the other thing. the second thing that can not change is that the universe never ends.

its like counting. you can't count to the highest number. it is simply impossible.

space continues into infinity. (the old question arises... what do you find when you get to the end of the universe?)

that is why there are an infinite number of big bangs happening simultaneously/overlapping, throughout the "universe", which has no boundaries.

a side affect?

there were two reasons religions were invented.

to explain these concepts that it is hard to wrap our brains around...

and manipulation of people BECAUSE of our inability to grasp certain concepts.

it seems pretty simple to me.

:shrug: