(ABC News) EXCLUSIVE: Hezbollah Poised to Strike?(Officials Say "Sleeper Cells" Activated in Canada)

Source: ABC News

Officials Say "Sleeper Cells" Activated in Canada

Intelligence agencies in the United States and Canada are warning of mounting signs that Hezbollah, backed by Iran, is poised to mount a terror attack against "Jewish targets" somewhere outside the Middle East.

Intelligence officials tell ABC News the group has activated suspected "sleeper cells" in Canada and key operatives have been tracked moving outside the group's Lebanon base to Canada, Europe and Africa.

Officials say Hezbollah is seeking revenge for the February assassination of Hezbollah's military commander, Imad Mugniyah, killed by a car bomb in Damascus, Syria.

The group's leaders blamed Israel, an allegation denied by Israeli officials.

There is no credible information on a specific target, according to the officials.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5203570&page=1

Must attack before November

If we are attacking Pakistan for harboring terrorists from Afghanistan then it would be true to chimp logic to attack Canada for harboring sleeper cells. Plus, Canada has all that oil and natural gas and its not so far to ship it here. :sarcasm:

Did you know that Canadians are practically Communists!!!! We should end the red threat asap!

Remember what happened last time?

Trogl was referring to the War of 1812, and the resounding defeat suffered by the yanks. ;)

We burned the White House, y'know? Okay, you got the Parliament buildings ... we're even. But you still lost the war.

You failed to get the point of a humourous post, and in fact totally misinterpreted it. Your particular variety of misinterpretation is to be expected around here; even in a discussion relating to Canada, which was really quite easy to follow the thread of, you veered off into US-centrism. It had to be about something US-ish.

I didn't think Trogl did need an interpreter, myself. That would be I why your post bizarre. But I was happy to help.

"You failed to get the point of a humourous post"
And what language in your original post, exactly, was humorous?

"Bring it on" is very much attributed to Bush, and my post was in reference to that phrase....nothing more.

"It had to be about something US-ish." See line above


:hi:

But how it could not have been clear that when I said "You failed to get the point of a humourous post" I was referring to Trogl's post, which I found hilarious and you just plain didn't get ... well, I dunno.

of the conversation.....

I thought Trogl's post had to do with the war between the US and Canada, and when he used the phrase "Bring it on" and "remember what happened last time" I see red, and my response was "yes, we remember what happened last time when Bush used that phrase and we waged that God-forsaken war.

Sorry that I responded in this thread at all. It's 12:20 a.m. here and I am going to bed. Apologies for anything in my post that was offensive to you.

by our borders. Think that's a coincidence? I think not! Yes, we must attack Canada!

Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their hockey hullabaloo
Liane: And that bitch Anne Murray too
Everyone: Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
For...
The smut we must stop
The trash we must bash
The Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!

we should go after Canada. Al Qaeda was working with Iraq, right? So Hezbollah is hiding in Canada... same logic, right?

the entire thing was staged.

Assholes.

Ghouliani rises from the grave yesterday, now this crap...

Tomorrow we'll be warned of the Iranian space weapons...

By next week, McCain will be telling up about the Giant Robot threat!!!

Do I even need a sarcasm tag here?

Fear sells and America is a willing buyer.

also responsible for promoting the war, which was a war crime.

Of course, distinguishing between fact-based and fiction-based materials is Cheney's speciality. He always picks the fictional stuff when it's beneficial to his next crooked move.

He clearly said in his speech that they needed the funds for other disasters that could happen this year...

Are they planning a false flag?

Tin foil hat firmly planted!

When???

link?????

citation ???

I read he declared disaster areas..I missed the refusal to release funds...

Bush released up to four billion in aid. I don't understand why people on this site feel they have to make stuff up just to get in some imagined political point. Did you even read the link you posted?

That's all the republicon corporate propaganda corps have to offer...

Why wait when we can skip to the thrill ride instantly.

Just like how Iraq could strike us in 45 minutes and just like how Saddam sent female assassins who were carrying chemical and biological weapons inside their uteri to blow up airplanes.

Orange or Red?

Then why the hell haven't they been "detained?" Or is this like those Al Qaeda who were "tracked" by the CIA until they got into the U.S. and the CIA conveniently forgot to let the FBI know they were here? Even so, 2 of them lived with an FBI informant who also didn't say anything.

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

:rofl: :rofl:

SO PREDICTABLE


I wonder if 'Hezzbollah' (aided by Iran of course) has access to that 6th little nuke that they
'lost' while flying from Minot-Louisiana, via the CIA and Dick Cheney?
:sarcasm:

"Terra" attack staged in a major Canadian city. Stephen Harper gets to drag Canada into full neocon panic mode. Since these cities are close enough to the US border, Chimpy gets to play the martial law card. And if they target a "Jewish neighborhood" that leaves the door wide open for a joint "US/Israel" (in reality PNAC/Likud) attack on Iran.

So which Canadian city has the largest Jewish population?

Are these the same "terraists" that were going to crash into that high rise in Los Angeles that idiot son didn't even know the correct name of?

If Bush had been doing his job prior to 9/11, 9/11 would have never happened.

Mr Dion, just announced a Green plan with a massive tax cut, so I'm sure the Fear, Fear, Fear routine will be used to change the channel on all the headlines it's getting.

First, the big headline on google news dot ca this afternoon was "Police Tell Stories Of Illegal American Guns Seized In Project Blackhawk" (see thread in this forum).

"Reports of Hezbollah in Canada unsubstantiated: expert" (as I posted down at the bottom here) was the only reference to this tale, way down at the bottom. We don't tend to get excited/distracted as easiliy up here.

it'll be the second time this administration has failed to protect the country.

Why in the hell would they make a move that would guarantee their abject defeat just to blow up a few Americans?

We are being "gamed" by the NeoCons who are trying to hold on to their power in the U.S.

rules.

problem come from?

of the infringements on our freedoms. Religious elements also are in a never ending war against personal freedoms.

In that attack Iran killed 241 Marines. Guess they don't count in your world. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran.barracks.bombing/

invading for the purpose of overthrowing governments.

However, Hezbolla is a militant group that was opposed to the occupation of Lebanon by Israel. From their viewpoint, the U.S.Marines were occupiers and their actions were defensive.

The 4,000+ we have lost in Iraq also count. But, they were sent their under false pretenses. They shouldn't have been exposed to that danger.

Iran gave the orders.

--that's happy to take money from anybody. Iran has no more control over them than we had over the jihadis we funded in Afghanistan in the 80s.

Hezbollah is owned and controlled by Iran.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/03/opinion/03pape.html?ex=1154750400&en=274cdd5c1cf26497&ei=5087%0A

Contrary to the conventional wisdom, Hezbollah is principally neither a political party nor an Islamist militia. It is a broad movement that evolved in reaction to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon in June 1982. At first it consisted of a small number of Shiites supported by Iran. But as more and more Lebanese came to resent Israel’s occupation, Hezbollah — never tight-knit — expanded into an umbrella organization that tacitly coordinated the resistance operations of a loose collection of groups with a variety of religious and secular aims.

In terms of structure and hierarchy, it is less comparable to, say, a religious cult like the Taliban than to the multidimensional American civil-rights movement of the 1960’s. What made its rise so rapid, and will make it impossible to defeat militarily, was not its international support but the fact that it evolved from a reorientation of pre-existing Lebanese social groups.

<snip>

In writing my book on suicide attackers, I had researchers scour Lebanese sources to collect martyr videos, pictures and testimonials and the biographies of the Hezbollah bombers. Of the 41, we identified the names, birth places and other personal data for 38. Shockingly, only eight were Islamic fundamentalists. Twenty-seven were from leftist political groups like the Lebanese Communist Party and the Arab Socialist Union. Three were Christians, including a female high-school teacher with a college degree. All were born in Lebanon.

http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/pubs/20000901ib.html

Islamic extremists were never much of a factor in Lebanon prior to the 1982 U.S.-backed Israeli invasion and the subsequent direct U.S. military intervention in support of a rightist Lebanese government installed under Israeli guns. During this period, the more moderate Islamic and secular groups were largely destroyed; Hezbollah filled the vacuum.

This fundamentalist movement, which was responsible for the kidnapping of several Americans and other Westerners in the 1980s, rose from obscurity a little more than eighteen years ago to become one of Lebanon’s most powerful political groupings. Hezbollah receives the core of its support from the hundreds of thousands of Lebanese Shi’ites who fled north into the slums of greater Beirut due to years of Israeli attacks.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15819.htm

A truck laden with yellow Hezbollah flags drives past the Christian neighbourhood of Gemayzeh early Sunday morning in downtown Beirut. There's a picture of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on the windscreen, but it's not his name that the young men on board are chanting. "General, General!" yell these young Shiite boys.

Their chant is for the leader of Hezbollah's largest Christian ally, the former General Michel Aoun. And this van captures an important dynamic that many of the international and Lebanese press have omitted from their coverage of the last few days -- that almost a quarter of the crowd at the huge anti-government protests have been Lebanese Christians.

The size and commitment of the Christian participation became clear Sunday, as thousands of Christians from Aoun's 'Free Patriotic Movement' marched in from East Beirut to join their Shia allies in calling for the Prime Minister to resign.

"We are all Christians and we are against the government," 45-year-old Joseph from East Beirut tells me as he walks past with his son, "We want our own Lebanese government with no Syrian influence, no American influence and not any influence from other Arab countries. "

What you post says "I had researchers scour Lebanese sources". I have not needed to go to "sources" whatever that means. I have been to Beruit and southern Lebanon many times. I don't believe in willful ignorance like many here do.

And I've ridden a one-speed bike all around the world. I said so and it's true.

Hezbollah did not exist until Israel invaded in 1982. Kindly explain why it has so much Christian support now if Iran is yanking its strings.

But at least I don't have to lie about going to "sources" in Lebanon.

You still haven't explained how they have Catholic support.

In the relative anarchy of post-civil war Lebanon it has taken the place of a functioning government, particularly in southern Beirut and the southern part of the country. Religious minorities such as Catholics, who make up about 20 to 25% of the population (maybe, no one knows since there has not been a census since the 1930s), will naturally align themselves with the only functioning government. This is particularly true with specific programs and projects but it doesn't mean they support the goals of the organization.

Check out the last chapter of Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine. It's a poor vs global disaster capitalist thing.

The battleship New Jersey started the fight by shelling Hezbollah positions, when they had not attacked us at all. The attack on the Marine barracks was in revenge for this unprovoked attack.

The battleship New Jersey began firing at hostile positions in Beirut on December 14, 1983 -- almost two months after the attack. Somebody spoon fed you some history with a little poison in it.

was Sparta.

I know it was AFTER Saddam had first Attacked Iran, but After Saddam grab the area of Iran in wanted, the Iranians then attacked him. Thus we have evidence that Iran will attack and did so under this Government.

If we go back further in History, the Persians were know to attack the Ottoman Empire (Again after the Ottoman's attacked them)

And let us NOT forget Timberlane, he used Persia as his base to attack the Turks (And threaten then Christian Constantinople around 1400) and even Russia (Actually the Golden Horde of the then declining Mongol Empire, the Golden Horde was taken over by the Russians in the 1600s, through parts of it survived till much later, white was the Mongol Color assigned to the West and thus the Golden Horde, and the Color the Czars later claimed for themselves). Timerlane attacked India (Taking Delhi) and in his 80s even started an attack on China from what in now Iran (His actual power base was the former Soviet Central Islamic Asian Republics of today, but his empire always included Iran/Persia).

Further back we have the Persian Attacks on the Eastern Roman Empire in the 600s (Which ended in the defeat of Persia and the conversion of the Eastern Roman Empire to a Greek Speaking Empire). The subsequent war was a disaster to both countries that neither could stop the Arab Conquest that followed within 20 years of the end of the Persian-Roman was of the early 600s.

Finally we have the Persian Empire of Classical History, an Empire that expanded into present day Iraq after Iraq had attack it, then expanded into present day Turkey, after the King of that area had attacked Iran, and even the Persian Invasion of Greece occured after Athens supported rebllions in right is now Turkey (and had came under Persian Control after Persia destroyed the Kingdom that has attacked it).

Thus Persia has a long history of Attacking other countries (I know it is after those countries attacked it, but that is no excuse for Iran's attack).

...from an Iraqi invasion, it is an aggressor nation?

And you're throwing in Tamerlane and the Persian Empire? Sheesh.

The two times periods is the 400 BC and 600 AD. In 400 BC, Persia did move against Egypt and right is now Pakistan in attacks that do NOT seem to have been provoked. In 600 AD the Persian attacked Palestine, Egypt and even Constantinople before they collapsed before the counter attack of Heraclius (Who decided occupying Persia was NOT in his best interest and probably abandoned it). In the later attack (which we have more information on) the attack seems to have been result of group think that they had to attack then, or never expand their empire. IT was attack or lose what is now Iraq (Which was becoming more and more Christian and thus looked to Constantinople for leadership NOT Iran). It was a brutal war, and cost both the Persian Army and the Eastern Roman Empire Army the ability to defeat the Arabs under Mohammad's successors (i.e. the Arab Conquest).

In the case of the Invasion of Egypt and Pakistan around 400, it seems to be the Persians were invited by one side in a Civil War, and then stayed (In the case of Egypt for about a generation, were kicked out till just before Alexander's conquest when the Persian took Egypt again (To lose it to Alexander within a generation).

I was just pointing out Persia has RARELY attacked anyone. It has been used by others (Including the Mongols themselves as a base of Operations) but once the natives were in charge no attacks.

For more on Heraclius and his war with Persia see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclius

Iran was defending itself.

You are not going to win minds with that one. But they would want to attack as he is about to leave office. Whatever day, it will happen. They did not give up and Bush did not get them. i don't believe when they say al quaida is gone.

payoff? They aren't stupid.

And have gone after Jews internationally before.

Everyone does stupid things sometimes.

Can you imagine living in a city where some people on the other side of a wall are launching rockets into your downtown. Who would do such a thing. Think about it. They get the rocket ready. They point it thinking, "this good direction to kill someone." Then they make it go and laugh that they are going to kill. If they kill a child they do not care. How can anyone understand such terrible people as would not want peace like this. They know they kill a child and they do not care for anything.

still occupy parts of their land.

The rest of your post is some bizarre fantasy you have created, complete with imagined dialogue and events that have never happened in the real world.

If people can be fooled by you to believe that there are not rockets being launched into Isreal then they are very stupid. Your response tell me I have it very correct. You can not deal with it so you only attack. That is not a valid way to debate.

You can say they are occupied but that does not change the fact that innocent children are being killed by people lauching rockets into cities. I won't ask you if you condone children being killed because it is obvious you do. Next you will try to excuse it by saying some other act makes it ok.

Your moral relativism is shameful.

If you were at the scene where you saw a person strap on bombs and knew they were going to blow themselves up on a bus, would (A) try to convince them not to do it or (B) Watch and say it is OK?

No matter what you say, you can not convince me that launching rockets or strapping bombs to yourself and getting on a bus to blow up yourself and everyone on the bus is a good position to defend.

You can not make excuses for atrocities no matter what the circumstances. Otherwise all you support is war and killing. Which do you support? Peace or war and killing. Very easy question. Save the moral relativism crap and answer.

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that Hezbolla were responsible for that outrage.

:hi:

:shrug:

:shrug:

:shrug:

:shrug:

Hasn't the Israeli government engaged in a slew of similar activities?

:shrug:

IS Israeli foreign policy to blame? :shrug:

I suppose the affect of Israeli (and, for that matter, U.S.) foreign policy is a matter that should be honestly and candidly discussed,...without vitriol and false accusations of race/religion-baiting and hating.

That's just my opinion.

Obviously that's why they attack Jewish targets.

Obviously that is why they were attacking that state-of-the-art military parked in their living rooms.

A terrorist attack is the only chance republicans have to retain power in the 2008 elections.

I wouldn't be surprised if it went either way honestly.

Even though it would play perfectly into the PNAC agenda, that doesn't mean it's fabricated. Sometimes PNAC just gets lucky. Kinda like how Al Qaeda got lucky when we invaded Iraq.

my minions, be very afraid!

are wide open they don't want anymore animosity about Mexico now they need to work on the Canadians

Where, oh where shall I hide.

Run for your lives.

Yawn.

the complexities of the intelligence world :sarcasm: but if our intelligence agencies and other friendly intelligence agencies have knowledge of this happening, why the hell would they be making it public knowledge? Why would they be letting these "sleeper cells" know that we have our eye on them? It wouldn't be because this is another BS story, right? :eyes:

and I'm sure those intelligence agents got right on the horn and called someone at ABC news to tell them this. How transparent can they get?

Injected intelligence into a space that clearly has none. Do you have any idea what happens when intelligence is injected into a void?

If he doesn't, his goose is cooked.

When they name the source, this might become credible! Unless the source is the USG, of course!!

Kent Brockman: Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?

Professor: Yes I would, Kent.

:rofl:

There's some controversy about the next one.

just like this illegal administration, you have ZERO credibility left ABC.

www.wearableartnow.com

They are out to destoy the one...

Hmmmmmm...

:think:

Haven't you been paying attention to what Our Dear Decider has been saying?

"You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists."

Now you've gone and forced the United States of Jesus to invade and liberate your oppressed people.

Once Operation Sub-Arctic Scythe is under way our proud troops will be showered with back bacon and Molsons by the ecstatic natives.

The Secretary of Defense has assured us that the savings on touks alone will pay for the invasion and subsequent 100 year occupation.

we could be safer.

it;s just "almost here".

perhaps they should focus on the economy

and those are the people the GOP has to focus on this year... cause ain't nobody else buyin their crap this time around.

Who wants to bet that there will be a TERRA attack before the election is over.

So fucking predictable. Play up on peoples fears of "sleeper cells", when there is no proof that there is even a single sleeper cell operating anywhere in North America.

What would we do without ABC!!!!

Do I look like Gomer Pyle? Don't treat me like an idiot. Please, I know you guys are just phoning it in at this point, but please try to make it look realistic. Oh, wait, I'm asking this from the same group that brought us Baby Milk Factory and Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs. You idiots have always been phoning it in, haven't you?

Get out of the peoples' House, you bastards! Yeah, you, Darth Cheney and your little puppet too!:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

ABC has no credibility anymore.

Fucking Magpies.

It went right over your pointy little heads!!!!!


They do this every time they want to force a vote.

yack, yack, yack terrorists, yack, yack attack, blah, blah blah. I am plum out of fear--numb out of fear. And, if something should happen on *'s watch, like what happened on 9/11--when the ball was dropped-am I supposed to think of him as a hero or someone who has let us down for the umpteenth time? I'll start fearing here if he ever decides to declare martial law-cause that's more scary to me than a threat of another nusty fundie attack. Let's see how many people fall for the "gotta attack Iran", like they fell for the "gotta attack Iraq", meme. "Gee, Cheney we kind of had a little bump in the road, but we're back on track for our PNAC agenda--I've got the media working on it right now."

I'm leaning heavily towards calling this propaganda, given that Europe's a hell of a lot easier for Hezbollah to get to.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080619/hezbollah_reaction_080620/20080620?hub=TopStories

Alan Bell, an international terror expert and president of the security firm Globe Risk Holdings, told CTV's Canada AM the ABC News report raises questions.

'If CSIS picked up these guys coming from the Middle East, and they're under surveillance, why would a reporter in the U.S. be given that information?"

Bell says Hezbollah usually works in the Middle East, and they have little reason to attack in Canada as there are far easier targets elsewhere.

The only thing that has changed is that the present Canadian government is more closely aligned with Israel.

But Bell believes, "Canada is an area for Hezbollah for fundraising, recruiting and equipment and forgery of documents, etc., and if they attack inside Canada, there's a pretty good chance they're going to alienate a lot of their supporters."

Hezbollah was listed as a terrorist organization in Canada some years ago, thus denying it the ability to fundraise legally, including for its social services projects.

I'd like to say that it won't work, it can't work. I'd LIKE to say that our fellow Americans are too savvy to be taken in by the same bullshit twice.

I'd LIKE to say that we couldn't be maneuvered and scared into supporting another invasion, or possibly a nuclear assault on Iran. And I'd LIKE to say there's no way possbile this could happen if >50% or >60% of Americans see through the lies.

But that would itself be a lie. Anyone who can read this knows that all the Bushies have to do is stage another False Flag 9/11, perhaps a chemical or nuclear one, and everyone would fall right in line just like when the Bushies and their pals did their first 9/11.

We are going to nuke Iran, I think. And then perhaps move most of our army 200 miles east. They're already there and we know they are never leaving Iraq, anyway.

And why wouldn't the Bushies do it if they wanted to? Who would stop them? The Congressional Democrats? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Hell, the Bushies might even let the buildup of tension continue, and then Nuclear False Flag us (a Blue State City, of course, which will maximize the political benefits to the Bushies like Katrina did) AS their October Surprise.

They kill THREE birds with one stone, that way, plus they get to nuke Iran.

Another option: This whole thing is a bullshit Psyop, and they are not going to nuke Iran...that will be for Emperor McBush in 2009.

But I don't think the latter is more likely than the former, no sir.

Also, McCain is supposed to go to Canada and speak sometime soon.
Either way, could be another RFK Deja Vu moment in the making due to paranoid people around the world

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Meanwhile Congress is obsessing over the border with Mexico.

Could Disney/ABC be full of shit (again) on the Path to the Next 9/11?:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080619/hezbollah_reaction_080620/20080620?hub=TopStories

I see somebody already caught ABC in their web of lies above.

nt

along with Italy, for not allowing a new US base to be built. Well, at least the US Army's War College keeps updating its War Plan Crimson for an attack on Canada.

Wonder though, if we're so concerned about going after places that give money to terrorist organizations, why don't the Marines invade Boston? That town has been the biggest money raiser for the Irish Republican Army since its founding.