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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 12:11 PM
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Pakistan Militants Execute Alleged U.S. Spies
Source: ABC News/AP


Pakistan Militants Publicly Execute Two Afghans Accused of Spying for the U.S.

A gang of Pakistani militants executed two alleged U.S. spies in front of thousands of cheering supporters Friday as a top U.N. official expressed fears that Pakistani government peace deals with the gunmen were sparking a wave of human rights abuses.

At least 5,000 people gathered by a stream in the Bajur region to watch the executions, which highlighted the power of local Taliban forces in the lawless tribal areas near the Afghan border.

Masked militants pulled the two blindfolded Afghans from a car and forced them to kneel on the ground.

Waliur Rehman, a local Taliban commander, told the crowd that the two men confessed to aiding in a suspected U.S. missile strike on a house in the border town of Damadola that killed 14 people last month. The men disclosed the names of others involved, and they would be killed as well, he said.

"Whoever, for the sake of money, for the sake of America, harms the interest of the Islamic world will meet the same fate," he said.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5259568
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 01:06 PM
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1. Got their training from the Pakistani ISI, no doubt! (nt)
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 03:01 PM
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2. One wonders if they were from the wrong tribe.
A few days ago a bunch of Mehsud/Taliba/militants--the distiction here is blurry--invaded a town, gathered 22-23 of the "wrong" tribe working against Islam's/Baitullah's/Allah's interests (again, the difference is blurry) and killed them.

Created a bit of a problem. On the one hand, Kayani seems to be trying to strike a tolerable deal, one tolerable to the Army at least; Gilani seems to be cluelessly picking lint in his belly button while Zardari and Sharif pitch fits over judges who might allow either or neither to make official the belief of each that l'etat, c'est lui.

Zardari doesn't want Chaudhry back--he might have charges that Musharraf had (probably illegally) dropped against him reinstated. Sharif wants Chaudhry back, because, well, they're buddies and having Zardari *and* Musharraf trashed by him would be a very good thing; Sharif has found few Taliban that he's not cozy with.

And so it goes. Too bad Gilani has a nearly inexhaustible supply of belly button lint.

People wanted change. I guess they're getting what they wanted.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 07:37 PM
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3. Makes One Wonder...
... are any of our "allies" actually on our side?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 07:59 PM
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5. And WHAT exactly
is "our side" in your estimation?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:06 PM
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6. It's easy to see who is against " US "







or is it.

Maybe Pakistan should give them their own country ?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:16 PM
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7. You mean, like, EVERYBODY IN THE REGION???
:rofl: :toast:
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 11:44 AM
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9. Pashtunistan still lives in the minds of its inhabitants.
On the ground, the Durand line is a colonial fiction.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 10:01 PM
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10. some minds remain closed no matter which side of the border they are on
Collaborators will always be disowned

‘US spies’ executed publicly


KHAR, June 27: Militants in Bajaur Agency executed two Afghan nationals in public on Friday on charges of spying for the United Sates.


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A witness said the armed men slit their throats with knives and then showered them with a hail of bullets in front of the crowd. The militants held up their severed heads and took a round of the ground to the accompaniment of vociferous slogans.


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http://www.dawn.com/2008/06/28/top7.htm

Any guess as to which site the video gets uploaded to ?
No ?

Money shots like that pay big dividends to the cause in the middle east bazaars yet are deemed inappropriate for the more 'civilized' media. At least they can translate the audio for christs sakes. Why deny their message to the outside world who is kept guessing and clueless as to their real intentions.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:04 PM
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8. Sorry...
... very poor word choice. Maybe we can call the bush version of the country the Un-united States of bushcheneyca or something. Like many others, I don't recognize the bushcheney takeover as a legal government... I see these eight years as illegitimate and beyond the Law, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights... and fully expect these cowards to pay heavily in the future for what they've done to this country.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 07:39 PM
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4. You see how they treated members of Pakistans peace department ?
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 07:56 PM by ohio2007
Pakistani Taliban Say They Killed 28 Men From Peace Group

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — The bodies of 28 members of a government-sponsored peace committee were found dumped on a road near the tribal area of South Waziristan on Wednesday, Pakistan officials said. The Pakistani Taliban said the men were killed because they supported the government, according to a Taliban statement made to a local journalist.

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The attack on the peace committee sent a particularly chilling message because it was a brutal tactic by Mr. Mehsud’s forces to quash pro-government groups in the region, tribal elders said. The killings appeared to be a direct challenge to the policy of the new Pakistani government to negotiate with militants rather than use military force. Some of the men had been shot; others had their throats slit


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/26/world/asia/26pstan.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

older story;

Pakistani Taliban Cited in 22 Slayings

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The bodies of 22 members of a government-sponsored peace committee were found dumped near South Waziristan on Wednesday after fighting broke out between the Pakistani Taliban and a rival tribe, government officials said.

The peace committee was attacked by supporters of Baitullah Mehsud, the head of the Pakistani Taliban, in the town of Jandola on Monday, not far from the Afghan border.


snip

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3366273#3368458



Remember what he said about OBL from the debates.

Yes,
this is the part of the world where Barak wants to "hunt bear".



Oh there is bear in those mountains.


But maybe if he says he wants to talk to them first,



They will listen him ?


Not like the Pakistani coalition govt and their department of peace comittee.







Red agencies/ districts controlled by the Taliban; purple is de facto control; yellow is under threat.



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=749_1214600536
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 10:55 PM
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11. Damn straight
After all, 4,000 years of intertribal violence has done such a sterling job of getting these people to live in peace. Let's give it just a little more time.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-04-08 10:16 AM
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12. Afghanistan seeks inquiry of two citizens' execution in Pakistan

Afghan Government has requested Pakistan to launch an inquiry into the beheading of two of its citizens by Pakistani Taliban in the country's tribal region, the Foreign Ministry said Thursday. Pakistani Taliban last week executed two Afghan nationals in Bajaur on charges of espionage for an American air strike which had killed around 12 people.

Afghan government asked Pakistan to bring those to book who had executed its nationals in Pakistani territory, Pakistan Foreign Ministry spokesman Muhammad Sadiq said.

"There was no conformation of the claim that the executed men were Afghans from any independent source and Pakistan is also unaware of the purpose of the visit of the two persons to Bajaur, if they were foreigners," Sadiq said.
He said Pakistan has asked Afghan Government to share the information on victims specifically their names, passport, visa particulars and the purpose of visit to Bajaur Agency


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http://www2.irna.com/en/news/view/line-20/0807042282130154.htm


Form the original thread news article;

Waliur Rehman, a local Taliban commander, told the crowd that the two men confessed to aiding in a suspected U.S. missile strike on a house in the border town of Damadola that killed 14 people last month. The men disclosed the names of others involved, and they would be killed as well, he said.


the wheels of justice are spinning now.Seems they need to cross check the stories of those that told the truth before being brought to justice
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 06:40 PM
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13. Deadly U.S. "buzzers" fray nerves in Pakistan
WANA, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pilotless U.S. drones armed with missiles have stepped up patrols over Pashtun villages on the Afghan-Pakistan border, hunting for Taliban and al Qaeda militants and fraying nerves below.

Pashtun villagers living on the frontier call them "buzzers", and the aircraft have increasingly taken to the skies, causing sleepless nights and occasionally raining down death.

"We're sick of these drones, they're driving us crazy," said Sher Shah, a government official in the town of Wana in the South Waziristan region, a hot bed of militancy in northwest Pakistan.

"They fly so low at night we can't sleep!"

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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSISL9855420080711

Lookout taliban
here comes bed check charlie







They wouldn't want to interrupt the late night prepubescent marriage ceremonies





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1206979.stm




http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/magazine/09BRI.html

Although it is allowed under their laws, I think its wrong.

All they really have to do is dig up some OBL DNA samples and we will look the other way.
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