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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:57 AM
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STOCK MARKET WATCH, Tuesday July 22
Source: du

STOCK MARKET WATCH, Tuesday July 22, 2008

COUNTING THE DAYS
DAYS REMAINING IN THE * REGIME 183

DAYS SINCE DEMOCRACY DIED (12/12/00) 2739 DAYS
WHERE'S OSAMA BIN-LADEN? 2464 DAYS
DAYS SINCE ENRON COLLAPSE = 2755
Number of Enron Execs in handcuffs = 19
ENRON EXECS CONVICTED = 10
Enron execs conveniently deceased = 3
Other Arrests of Execs = 54



U.S. FUTURES &
MARKETS INDICATORS>
NASDAQ FUTURES-----------------------------S&P FUTURES





AT THE CLOSING BELL WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE on January 22, 2001
Dow - 10,578.24
Nasdaq - 2,757.91
S&P 500 - 1,342.90
Oil - $27.69/bbl
Gold - $266.70/oz.
$1 USD = EUR 1.06678
$1 USD = JPY 116.6200


AT THE CLOSING BELL ON July 21, 2008

Dow... 11,467.34 -29.23 (-0.25%)
Nasdaq... 2,279.53 -3.25 (-0.14%)
S&P 500... 1,260.00 -0.68 (-0.05%)
Gold future... 963.70 +5.70 (+0.59%)
30-Year Bond 4.65% -0.01 (-0.30%)
10-Yr Bond... 4.07% -0.01 (-0.34%)






GOLD,EURO, YEN, Loonie and Silver



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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:03 AM
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1. Market WrapUp: Buckle Up
With transparency and truth in short supply, caution is warranted
BY TONY ALLISON

Investor Jim Rogers minced few words, as usual, when asked about the U.S. Treasury Department's plan to shore up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

“It is an unmitigated disaster”, said Rogers. “Taxpayers will be saddled with debt if Congress approves (U.S. Treasury Secretary) Henry Paulson's request for the authority to buy unlimited stakes in and lend to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.”

"These companies were going to go bankrupt if they hadn't stepped in to do something, and they should've gone bankrupt with all of the mistakes they've made,'' Rogers said. “What's going to happen when you put some Band-Aids on it for another year or two or three? What's going to happen three years from now when the situation's much, much, much worse?''

"They're ruining what has been one of the greatest economies in the world,'' said Rogers. “Bernanke and Paulson are bailing out their friends on Wall Street but there are 300 million Americans that are going to have to pay for this.''


It’s a pity that Rogers doesn’t speak frankly. The problem of course is that he is one of the few that will speak the truth as he sees it. He admits he is short the banks. But he has been short for years, and with good reason it turns out.

.....

Credit Crisis- write-offs continue

The credit crisis effectively broke into the public consciousness last August. At the time, the total losses were estimated at $200 billion. As bank write-offs continued into the fall and winter of 2007, the estimates were revised to $400 billion. During this period Wall Street pundits repeatedly stated that “the worst was over” and the financial stocks were a significant “opportunity” at these levels. Unfortunately, the banks have continued to write-off losses well into 2008. Recently the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and others have estimated that bank write-offs will reach $1.6 trillion. Given that roughly $400 billion has been written-off worldwide, there is still a ways to go.

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:27 AM
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35. Great cartoon
However, by that point the place will have long been a branch of Potter National Bank® in Potterville.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:08 AM
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2. no goobermint reports today n/t
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:09 AM
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3.  Oil steady near $131 a barrel in Asia
SINGAPORE - Oil prices held steady near $131 a barrel Tuesday in Asia on expectations Tropical Storm Dolly won't disrupt oil operations in the Gulf of Mexico.

Royal Dutch Shell, Europe's biggest oil company, said Monday it was evacuating workers from oil rigs in the western part of the Gulf but didn't expect its production to be affected by the storm.

"The market doesn't see Dolly as a real threat at this point," said Victor Shum, an energy analyst with consulting firm Purvin & Gertz Inc. in Singapore. "It doesn't look like it will have much of an impact."

Midafternoon in Singapore, light, sweet crude for August delivery was down 1 cent at $131.03 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract rose $2.16 to settle at $131.04 a barrel overnight.

The August contract expires later in the day at the close of the floor session in New York. The September contract, which will become the new front month, was up 4 cents at $131.86 a barrel in electronic trade.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/oil_prices
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:12 AM
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4.  AP IMPACT: Big Oil profits steered to investors (what? a lie?)
HOUSTON - As giant oil companies like Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips get set to report what will probably be another round of eye-popping quarterly profits, just where is all that money going?

The companies insist they're trying to find new oil that might help bring down gas prices, but the money they spend on exploration is nothing compared with what they spend on stock buybacks and dividends.

It's good news for shareholders, including mutual funds and retirement plans for millions of Americans, but no help to drivers already making drastic cutbacks to offset the high cost of fuel.

The five biggest international oil companies plowed about 55 percent of the cash they made from their businesses into stock buybacks and dividends last year, up from 30 percent in 2000 and just 1 percent in 1993, according to Rice University's James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy.

The percentage they spend to find new deposits of fossil fuels has remained flat for years, in the mid-single digits.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_profits_16
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:07 AM
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48. Mid-single digits= 4-6%.
Funny how they note the 55% but obfuscate with words the 5%.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:14 AM
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5. UnitedHealth 2Q profit falls on charges, tops view
...
UnitedHealth Group Inc.'s net income fell to $337 million, or 27 cents per share, from $1.23 billion, or 93 cents per share, a year ago. Excluding charges for lawsuits and severance, the company earned 67 cents per share in the latest period.

Revenue rose 7 percent to $20.27 billion from $19 billion a year earlier.
...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_unitedhealth
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:45 AM
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51. 337M that people overpaid
Popular sentiment rails against government intrusion into health care. The government will waste all our money on bureaucracy and we'll have no choice, or so the saying goes.

So instead we pay and pay, and health care providers pay in lower reimbursements, so the health care giants can make hundreds of millions of dollars, sometimes even a billion, in profit.

Sick.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:15 AM
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6. Yikes. Look at those futures tanking. Down over 1%
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:19 AM
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7. Home Depot execs on CNBC this morning lamenting regulation
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 06:22 AM by Roland99
Saying they could not have gone public today and expanded like they did given regulations on things like stock options.


But not in favor of bailing out mortgage/financial companies.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:27 AM
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9. Where's my fiddle?
I feel the need to play some slow, sad dirge for these poor executives. :nopity:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:42 AM
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24. I hate that company.
Unfortunately, I can walk there. The nearest Lowes is 10 miles away.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:41 AM
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55. Home Depot is 7 miles away. Lowes is 9 miles away
Home Depot lost me when they got greedy and fired all the old construction guys whose brains you could pick and replaced them with cheap, apathetic twentysomethings who didn't know their thumbs from their bums.

At the same time, much of the stock disappeared as inventory was tightened to a ridiculous extent, meaning half the time I'd go out empty handed, not good.

The old guys are back but the inventory hasn't improved.

How to destroy a company in one easy lesson: get greedy and try to use it as your personal cash cow.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:57 AM
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59. Next step for the shruggers:
How to destroy a country in one easy lesson: get greedy and try to use it as your personal cash cow.


That's the way it works, isn't it?








Tansy Gold
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:01 AM
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61. One case where it's really not good to mistake a bull for a cow...
There are others.

But, this is one of them.

Oh, there I go... Thinking in real world terms again. Where there are consequences for stupidity.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:04 AM
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63. Lowes is still closer for me but I have to drive now.
Used to be a 5min walk
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:23 AM
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8.  DuPont 2Q profit rises, beats expectations
Chemicals maker DuPont Co. said Tuesday agriculture sales and emerging markets helped fuel a rise in second-quarter profit, which was also boosted in part by a lawsuit settlement and a lower tax rate.

Wilmington, Del.-based DuPont earned $1.08 billion, or $1.18 per share, during the quarter ending June 30, compared with profit of $972 million, or $1.04 per share, during the previous year's quarter. Net sales rose to $8.83 billion from $7.88 billion a year earlier.

.....

DuPont raised its 2008 outlook slightly, now forecasting earnings of $3.45 to $3.55 per share. Analysts expect $3.50 per share.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_dupont
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:28 AM
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10.  Stocks look to fall after disappointing earnings
NEW YORK - Wall Street looked to open sharply lower Tuesday after a dismal quarter from Wachovia Corp. heightened concerns about how corporate results will fare amid the ongoing credit crisis.

The nation's fourth-largest bank suffered more write-downs linked to its troubled mortgage business, and slashed its dividend for the second time this year. Wachovia, which is leaving the wholesale mortgage lending business, easily missed Wall Street projections.

Shares of the company plunged 11 percent in premarket trading, and added to an already jittery mood after disappointing results were released late Monday from blue chips American Express Co., Apple Inc. and Texas Instruments Inc.

Dow Jones industrial average futures fell 118, or 0.67 percent, to 11,347.

S&P 500 index futures fell 13.60, or 1.08 percent, to 1,248.00. Nasdaq 100 index futures shed 36.25, or 1.98 percent, to 1,791.25.

AmEx, one of the world's largest credit card lenders, said late Monday its second-quarter results fell 38 percent due to the weakening economy. The company, which missed projections, caters to more established borrowers with excellent credit.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_bi_st_ma_re/wall_street
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:31 AM
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11.  Wachovia has $8.9B loss, exits wholesale mortgage
....
The nation's fourth-largest bank by assets says it lost the equivalent of $4.20 per share in the April-June period. In the same timeframe last year, the bank earned $2.34 billion, or $1.22 per share.

Thomson Financial says analysts had predicted a loss of 78 cents per share on revenue of almost $8.4 billion.
....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_wachovia
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:26 AM
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21. UPDATE 1-Wachovia loses $8.86 bln; slashes 6,350 jobs, dividend
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2234346820080722?sp=true

NEW YORK, July 22 (Reuters) - Wachovia Corp (WB.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) on Tuesday posted an $8.86 billion second-quarter loss, slashed its dividend and announced 6,350 job cuts after losses tied to mortgages soared.

Its shares fell $1.67, or 12.7 percent, to $11.51 in premarket trading.

The net loss attributable to common stockholders equaled $4.20 per share and compared with a profit of $2.34 billion, or $1.22, a year earlier.

<snip>

Wachovia on July 9 had projected a $2.6 billion to $2.8 billion quarterly loss, equal to $1.23 to $1.33 per share, excluding goodwill items.

The same day, it named former Treasury Undersecretary Robert Steel as chief executive, replacing Ken Thompson, whom it ousted a month earlier.

...more...


well, well, well - projects on July 9 a $2.6 - $2.8 billion loss - announces on July 22 an $8.9 billion loss - hmmm.... that's like... umm oh :think: 3 times what they said!

but - it's all hunky dory now, 'cuz they got themselves one of them smart connected Treasury people at the top!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:50 AM
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27. Well, their $2.6 billion projected loss excluded "Goodwill".
$6 billion is a hell of a lot of "goodwill".
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:46 AM
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26. Key's loss worse than expected
KeyCorp today said it lost $1.13 billion, or $2.70 per common share in the second quarter - worse than analysts expected. That compares to profits of $334 million, or 84 cents per common share in the second quarter of 2007.

Analysts had estimated Key would report a per-share loss of $2.58.

For the first half of 2008, the loss totals $908 million, or $2.23 per common share, compared with profits of $684 million, or $1.71 per share for the first half of last year

Key's loss comes on a day overflowing with bad bank news from Wachovia, Fifth Third and American Express.

Key blamed a tax issue it disclosed last month and an increase in reserves for future loan losses. It increased its reserves to 1.87 percent of loans because of "current economic conditions," Key said in a statement. That's up from 1.7 percent in the first quarter and up from 1.42 percent a year ago.

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/keys_loss_worse_than_expected.html

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:35 AM
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12.  Regulators check Fannie, Freddie books: report
(Reuters) - Bank examiners from the U.S. Federal Reserve and the Comptroller of the Currency are inspecting the books of mortgage finance companies, Fannie Mae (FNM.N) and Freddie Mac (FRE.N), The New York Times reported on Tuesday.

The Fed and the comptroller's office began combing the books of the two largest U.S. home loan companies after their declining stock prices caused widespread anxiety in the market, the paper said, quoting Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.

.....

The financial condition of the two companies is being followed closely by members of Congress, some of whom have expressed concern about approving a plan without a clearer understanding of the value of the possible losses from mortgage-related securities owned or guaranteed by them.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080722/bs_nm/freddiemac_fanniemae_regulators_dc
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:40 AM
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13. Fannie, Freddie May Record More Losses, Ofheo Says (Update1)
July 22 (Bloomberg) -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac may need to record more writedowns after they expanded their purchases of non-guaranteed subprime and Alt-A mortgage securities just as other investors fled to safer investments, their regulator said.

The value of $217 billion of the so-called non-agency securities is falling as other financial firms write down their holdings, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight said in its annual mortgage market report. Privately issued securities backed by subprime mortgages made up 9.2 percent of the companies' combined portfolio, while Alt-A represented about 5.8 percent, Ofheo said.

.....

Freddie Mac is Worse

Freddie Mac has as much as $24 billion of potential losses related to privately issued subprime and Alt-A mortgage securities that it now calls ``temporary'' as the company is assuming it can recover its investment when the debt matures, Credit Suisse analyst Moshe Orenbuch wrote in a July 16 research note.

Non-agency, or private-label, mortgage securities, once the most profitable home-loan debt for Wall Street, lack guarantees from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac or U.S. agency Ginnie Mae.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601084&sid=ajmUanw85QRc&refer=stocks
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:41 AM
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14. "Inspecting" the Books? Is That Like An Audit?
or maybe a frantic search for an out? Or a scapegoat? or a coverup?

You never know if what you see is what you're getting anymore.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:48 AM
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15. Intuition tells me that the losses are being tallied.
Then Paulson will have a clear idea how much he needs to beg from Congress. But before that happens, a message must be crafted in order for the American public to feel good about being bribed with their own money - again.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:08 AM
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17. paulson wants a blank checkbook
it's justified because these institutions are TOOOOO BIG to fail

rhetorical questions....

- has it occurred to them that having so much money controlled by a few BIG institutions may be a bad idea?

- has it occurred to them if they had helped those on the bottom that those on top may not be in trouble now?

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:05 AM
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47. Paulson wants Congress to vote on this legislation before even reading it.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 09:06 AM by ozymandius
Typical: an arbitrary deadline set; confusing doublespeak by our money stewards; shrill insistence on passage despite assurance that 'all is well'.

If Paulson were trying to sell me a car - I'd turn around a walk away without a word.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:48 AM
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56. Who does he think he is? Tom DeLay?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:09 PM
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75. LOL
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:59 AM
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60. What Are You, Some Kind of Commie Pinko Socialist?
Welcome to the club!
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:56 AM
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16. Analysis: Fed, Comptroller of the Currency Due Diligence Sham for Fannie, Freddie
There are three simple reasons why this supposed review is certain to be a sham.

First, do you think that it would be acceptable for the examiners to come back and say the GSEs were in trouble, or merely undercapitalized? Never. So the outcome of this exercise is predetermined. The most we might see is some recommendations for improvement and/or mention of some minor problem area, nothing threatening. to make the process look legitimate.

Indeed, Paulson's own comments confirm that this is a PR effort:

“Ofheo has told us one thing and the markets have told us another,” Mr. Paulson said. “I’d like as much input as possible.”

He added that the examination would “make the markets more comfortable” about the financial health of the companies.


That comment presupposes a clean bill of health.

Second, the manpower is certain to be insufficient. When Citigroup was in serious trouble in the early 1990s, it took 160 examiners to go over their portfolio. And the troubled loans were junior/senior debt deals, where Citi was holding junior debt on what turned out to be see-through office buildings in Texas and the Southwest. That meant it was a specific number of deals (I have no idea how many, but exactly how many bad commercial RE deals could a large bank do?) that were inspected intensely.

Now this is a completely different sort of exercise, but I strongly suspect it would take more than 160 people per GSE to perform this review in enough depth to make most readers happy, and it's a pretty safe bet there are not that many people dedicated to this task.

Third, not even remotely enough time. Paulson wants the rescue package approved by Congress this week and wants the inspection to bolster confidence:

Mr. Paulson repeated his earlier comments that Congress should provide the administration with open-ended authority to make investments and loans to the two giant companies to send a strong signal to the markets that they have plenty of financial muscle behind them.

“The more flexibility we have on the credit facility, the more confidence you have in the market and the greater protection to the taxpayer because the less likely it will be used,” Mr. Paulson said. “Something like that shouldn’t have to be used. It’s like the Fed’s lender of last resort facility.”

He said it would be unfair to describe any possible loan to either institution as a bailout because, he said, they would have to post “strong collateral” that would protect taxpayers from losses.

“These entities have good collateral,” he said. “There are mortgages being made today.”

In response to a question about how confident he could be that the collateral would be adequately valued considering the sharp and continuing decline in the housing markets, he said that the two companies were being examined by officials from the Fed and the comptroller’s office.


http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/07/fed-comptroller-of-currency-due.html




See? It's all good. These dogs and ponies parading in little circles are necessary before all is declared well.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:56 AM
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44. Book-cookin' in progress: Fannie, Freddie aid plan would cost $25 billion: CBO
01. Freddie Mac down 18% in early trades
9:38 AM ET, Jul 22, 2008

04. CBO says good chance U.S. won't use Fannie, Freddie aid plan
9:35 AM ET, Jul 22, 2008

06. U.S. Fannie, Freddie aid plan would cost $25 billion: CBO
9:34 AM ET, Jul 22, 2008

LIARS
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:59 AM
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46. $25 billion? BAH!
Maybe during the first hour of bailout. But they mean total? What a load of shit!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:12 PM
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76. it's not just the bailouts that concern me---it's the lack of conditions
Can you imagine some relative bailing you out of a bad situation that you mostly created yourself, and not putting conditions on the money handed to you?

Apparently, that's what BushCo's doing with these bailouts. Meanwhile our deficit is nearly $10 trillion. :scared:
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:13 AM
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18. AmEx: "Super Prime" Problems (We're all subprime now.)
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 07:14 AM by ozymandius
A few comments from the American Express conference call:

“Over the past month or so, we have seen clear signs that the US economy is weakening. Unemployment rates, as we know, took the largest jump in over 20 years. Home prices declined at the fastest rate in decades, and consumer confidence is at one of its all-time low points. Card member spending particularly among consumers slowed sharply during the latter part of the quarter. Credit indicators as we signaled a few weeks ago deteriorated beyond our expectations, and by almost any measure the US economy and business environment are much weaker than the assumptions we first spoke to you about back in January and the conditions that existed in early June. Now this fallout was evident across all consumer segments, even our longer-term super prime card members.”


.....

And AmEx expects the economy to worsen:

“The severe decline in home prices and the marked rise in oil prices have had a fundamental impact on consumer budgets and behavior. Not just as it relates to mortgages and home-related spending, but also across the full spectrum of the consumer economy. We saw the first signs of weakness in our credit indicators at the end of last year and communicated this to you in January when we reported our fourth-quarter results. At that time we took a credit-related charge in order to recognize the deterioration by strengthening our lending and charge card reserves, coverage ratios and levels. In the first quarter, US lending write-off rates rose further, and at that time we indicated that the second-quarter loan-loss rate would be higher than the first quarter, which has proven to be the case. In April and May US lending write-off rates were generally consistent with the 4% to 6% EPS growth plan that we discussed with you in early June. However, as I showed you on the slide package, we saw our credit deteriorate in June beyond our expectations as the write-off rates rose and roll rates within the portfolio deteriorated versus prior months. In other words, more and more consumers who are falling behind in their payments are remaining delinquent. This causes us to assume that a greater percentage of past-due loans will not be repaid. In light of the magnitude of the negative economic trends and our experience, we now believe the economic weakness in the US will likely worsen throughout the remainder of the year and negatively impact credit and business trend ... we now expect that our lending write-off rate in the third and fourth quarter will be higher than June levels.”


http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/07/amex-super-prime-problems.html




The Amex slide show is here.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:28 AM
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49. American Express Falls 12% As Profit Misses Estimates (Update1)
July 22 (Bloomberg) -- American Express Co., the biggest U.S. credit card company by purchases, dropped 12 percent in early trading after second-quarter earnings missed analysts' estimates and the lender withdrew its 2008 forecast.

Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Chenault said yesterday in a conference call that the business climate was ``much weaker'' than earlier this year and American Express was hurt by rising U.S. unemployment and falling house prices. Profit from continuing operations dropped 37 percent to $655 million, or 56 cents a share, falling short of the 82 cent average estimate of 17 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg.

.....

The U.S. economic slowdown worsened in June, affecting even American Express's wealthier cardholders with high credit scores, Chenault, 57, said in the call. Late and uncollectible loans were higher than expectations in the quarter and will rise as the year progresses, Chenault said. The U.S. lost 62,000 jobs in June, the sixth straight period of shrinking payrolls.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a43Cft2fXPH8&refer=home
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:15 AM
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19. dollar watch


http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=i

Last trade 71.805 Change -0.013 (-0.02%)

Majors Reflect Continued Uncertainty in Dollar Outlook

http://www.dailyfx.com/story/topheadline/Majors_See_Continued_Uncertainty_in_1216705006837.html

Last week proved moderately fruitful, hitting our target on the Swiss Franc to yield 160 pips and advancing our New Zealand Dollar trade 96 pips in the right direction. This time around, choppy trading around oil prices and risk sentiment has made for substantial uncertainty in the major pairs. With the majority of significant US earnings reports over by Friday, this week may prove to be a defining moment in the dollar’s fate.



...more...


US Dollar: The One Correlation that Hasn’t Faded (Yet)

http://www.dailyfx.com/story/bio1/US_Dollar__The_One_Correlation_1216673873025.html

The sell-off in the Dow, the rebound in oil prices and weaker economic data drove the US dollar lower against every major currency except for the New Zealand dollar. Leading indicators dropped for the second month in a row, as stock prices plunge and unemployment rises. Even though Bank of America reported better than expected earnings today, the rally in the stock market is running out of gas. US Treasury Secretary Paulson and Fed President Plosser are scheduled to speak about the economy tomorrow and it may difficult for them to avoid acknowledging the deteriorating outlook for the US economy. Whether or not the dollar will continue to slide will be largely dependent upon the moves in equities and oil since the US economic calendar is devoid of any significantly market moving data. Meanwhile, for currency traders, the most interesting article in today’s Wall Street Journal is the one about volatility in the financial markets causing trading relationships to be in flux. This article examines some of the correlations that we talk about regularly, between USD/JPY and stocks or the EUR/USD and oil. The premise of this article is that these correlations may be fading, even though USD/JPY has traded in sync with the Dow today while the positive correlation between the EUR/USD and oil prices remain intact. Correlations run hot and cold and even though the Wall Street Journal Article may have a point, there will always be times when correlations are strong and weak. The one correlation that has remained intact so far is between USD/JPY and the December Fed Fund futures contract. Since March, the correlation between these two assets has been more than 90 percent. This tells us that the US dollar has been trading almost entirely based upon the market’s expectations for the Federal Reserve moves this year. Back in March, USD/JPY plummeted below 100 when Fed fund futures priced in steeper rate cuts. By June, the greenback recovered impressively against the Yen as oil prices surged forcing Fed fund futures to price in the possibility of rate hike before the end of the year. Interestingly enough, the correlation between the December Fed fund futures contract and the EUR/USD has been approximately zero between March and July. The reason why the correlation is strong for USD/JPY but nonexistent for the EUR/USD is simple; everyone knows that Japan can not alter interest rates despite their economic conditions while the outlook for Eurozone rates remains uncertain. In contrast, weaker conditions in Japan have already been priced into the market, but no one knows for sure if the Eurozone will skirt a recession or whether the European Central Bank will deliver another rate hike this year.

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:27 AM
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22. This is high stakes chess.
The geometry of these maneuvers boggles my mind. But I say it comes down to this: no one wants to make a decision for fear of making a bad decision. That's a dumb way to operate. It also undermines credibility within the individuals and institutions themselves which cannot be honest about their current positions. Where are their strengths? How weak are the weaknesses? How do the two categories correlate? Reasonable decisions should be made based on that answer.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:04 AM
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62. They Don't Want Bushco/GOP/PTB Furies on Their Tails
Therefore it will be a bad decision by definition.

If they wanted a good decision, they'd quit and turn themselves in for white collar crime.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:20 AM
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20. Layoffs 7/22
Santa Cruz County, CA - 55 jobs lost
The county's belt-tightening struck an emotional chord this weekend when 55 county employees headed home with layoff notices.

The layoffs, which take effect Aug. 27, are the expected fallout of sweeping cuts in the county's budget this fiscal year, a result of the slumping economy.

Nearly all the employees scheduled to lose their jobs are in the county's Health Services Agency and Human Services Department.
http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_9951303?nclick_check=1


CommScope, Inc - New York - 85-700 jobs lost
NEW YORK (Associated Press) - Communications support company CommScope Inc. said Friday that it will consolidate some of its business segments to streamline business, closing several segment sites and cutting jobs.

CommScope said it will combine certain antenna and cable production within its Antenna, Cable and Cabinet Group and its Enterprise segments into other existing facilities.

The changes mean the layoff of at least 85 employees. In total, the company says more than 700 jobs could be affected by the decision, with the majority of jobs potentially being relocated.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/apwire/3afe41f1f72e181a84edc8bf5f1fb2df.htm


State of Tennessee - up to 2200 jobs lost
Gov. Phil Bredesen is selling, but state employees aren’t buying.

Monday, the governor said that his $50 million voluntary buyout package of about 2,200 state employees is not proceeding well as too few — about 1,400 — have applied, with the deadline of Aug. 5 quickly approaching.

“We need more than that, or we would have to seriously consider some form of layoff later in the year,” Bredesen said.

The $50 million package includes cash payments based partially on years of service, extended health insurance benefits and tuition assistance. The offer was meant to trim $64 million in recurring expenses from the state budget as a result of the shortfall, which was caused by the economic doldrums.


Schreiber Foods - Wisconsin Rapids, WI - 135 jobs lost
Schreiber Foods Inc. will close a dairy plant in Wisconsin Rapids, resulting in the loss of 135 jobs.

The Green Bay-based cheese and dairy products manufacturer informed state officials through a Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification letter to the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development that the layoffs are expected to begin Sept. 18. Employers are required to give the state 60 days notice of a mass layoff under state law.

The company intends to close the plant in Wisconsin Rapids on Sept. 30 and move production to a plant in Carthage, Mo., according to media reports.
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2008/07/21/daily2.html


Blue Water Automotive Systems - 1,400 jobs potentially lost
Officials at Blue Water Automotive Systems Inc. say anxious creditors and rising oil prices could lead the company to close down within 90 days, prompting approximately 1,400 layoffs, more than 200 of which would come from its plant just west of Howell.

Closure is the worst-case, and most likely, scenario, said James Sampson, president and chief executive officer.

"I don't want to give false hope, but I don't want hopelessness either," Sampson said, adding employees were being notified of their potential job loss late last week.

Fred Dillingham, executive director of the Economic Development Council of Livingston County, plans on meeting with Blue Water officials Thursday in Howell Township. Dillingham wouldn't disclose the nature of the talks.
http://www.livingstondaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080722/NEWS01/807220303/-1/NEWSFRONT2


Security National Servicing Corp - Eureka, CA - 21 jobs lost
Security National Servicing Corp. announced layoffs Monday of 21 employees companywide, including 10 employees at the Eureka headquarters, citing a slowdown in the mortgage loan servicing business.

“We are disappointed to report that the continued difficult economic times have required another reduction in our Eureka workforce,” SN Servicing Senior Vice President Brian Morrissey stated in a news release.

“Tight credit markets and financial distress by homeowners have reduced the volume of loan servicing by our company. This circumstance has resulted in the layoffs of some of our outstanding employees.”

The announcement follows the company’s decision in March to cut 37 employees, including 21 at the Eureka office.
http://eurekareporter.com/article/080721-security-national-announces-layoffs


Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines - 400 jobs lost
MIAMI, Fla. (AP) -- Cruise operator Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. reported sharply lower second-quarter earnings Monday, blaming higher fuel prices, and said it would cut 400 jobs.

Royal Caribbean earned $84.7 million, or 40 cents a share, in line with Wall Street expectations. In the same period a year ago it earned $128.7 million, or 60 cents a share.

Although demand for cruises remained high in the quarter, fuel prices soared 55 percent. As a result, the company said it would take several steps to cut costs by about $125 million including eliminating jobs.

"Too much of our profitability is being eroded by the increase in fuel prices," CEO Richard Fain said in a statement. "This is unacceptable and we are evaluating everything we do to find ways to do it more efficiently and effectively."
http://www.970wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=124415&article=3986015


Allentown Morning Call - Allentown, PA - 35-40 jobs lost
The Morning Call will close two bureaus and consolidate its Northampton County offices, eliminate three daily editions and cut nearly a quarter of its newsroom positions as the newspaper tries to remake itself in a bruising economy.

"In this environment, we had to make some really tough trade-offs," Timothy R. Kennedy, publisher, president and chief executive officer, said in an interview Monday after announcing the plan in a memorandum to employees.

The job cuts, closings and other cost-cutting measures are in response to reductions in most categories of advertising, the lifeblood of a newspaper. Kennedy said classified advertising in particular has plunged, with help wanted and real estate advertising down 20 percent.

"When it goes south, the whole business model goes with it," Kennedy said.

To cut costs, the newspaper will eliminate an unprecedented 35-40 positions in the newsroom, mainly by involuntary job cuts. The newspaper has 166 editorial positions, so the job cuts could equal nearly 25 percent of the staff.
http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-cuts0721,0,7552528.story


Silicon Graphics - CA - 100+ jobs lost
Silicon Graphics revealed the termination of more than 100 jobs, or about 7 percent of its workforce, since June in a filing today with the SEC. It eliminated 90 position on July 15 after the company “identified opportunities to consolidate and centralize certain groups, rationalize where and how we do business, and to relocate some functions based on efficiencies and geographic differences in the cost of doing business.”

The move followed a “separate action” on June 17 that cut 15 employees after Silicon Graphics shut down its data center and labs in Mountain View and moved activities there to its facility in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin.

The job cuts will results in the payment of about $2.5 million in cash termination benefits by the maker of computer servers, data storage and visualization systems.

Silicon Graphics, which climbed out of bankruptcy protection in October 2006, reported sales of $79.1 million in its fiscal 2008 third quarter ended March 31, down 40 percent from the year-before quarter, and a net loss of $39.7 million, 73 deeper than the loss in the year-before quarter. Since its re-emergence from bankruptcy it has accumulated $221.7 in losses.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/docudrama/2008/07/21/silicon-graphics-reports-job-cuts-totaling-7-percent-of-workforce/




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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:37 AM
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36. Wachovia - nationwide - 6350 jobs lost
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Wachovia Corp. said today it lost $8.86 billion in the second quarter, slashed its dividend and announced 6,350 job cuts after losses tied to mortgages soared.

Even excluding one-time items, the results substantially missed Wall Street estimates, and shares sank to mid-1991 levels in premarket trading.

"These bottom-line results are disappointing and unacceptable," Chairman Lanty Smith said in a statement. "While to some degree they reflect industry headwinds and weaker macroeconomic conditions, they also reflect performance for which we at Wachovia accept responsibility."

The nation's fourth-largest bank by assets says it lost the equivalent of $4.20 per share in the April-June period. In the same timeframe last year, the bank earned $2.34 billion, or $1.22 per share.

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-07-22-0174.html
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:06 AM
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64. Is 4th Largest Too Big to Fail? (TBTF)
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 11:06 AM by Demeter
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:49 AM
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66. There's another expression, tho...
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 11:51 AM by Prag
The Bigger They Are The Harder They Fall. (TBTHTF)

Guessing we won't be hearing that one... Ever.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:22 PM
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92. More Likely We'll Hear: "Ashes, Ashes, They All Fall Down!"
Which is a damned depressing theme for today--but I've got others all lined up for the next shooting of the rapids....

I never thought they'd work this hard to get the market back up. No August vacations this year--except for the Shrub, whose absence will make the job that much easier for the peons.

I was sweating it last week when the pool limits were so near, but I'm glad I kept my September Date. For tradition's sake though, I should have picked a Tuesday in October. I just didn't think they could keep this balloon up in the air that long.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:39 AM
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37. United Airlines - nationwide - 5,500 jobs lost (on top of 1,500 previously announced)
July 22 (Bloomberg) -- United Airlines parent UAL Corp. posted a second-quarter net loss of $2.73 billion, or $21.47 a share, and said its job cuts would reach 7,000 by the end of next year.

The loss compared with year-earlier net income of $274 million, or $1.83 a share, the Chicago-based company said today in a statement distributed by PR Newswire. The workforce reduction includes 1,500 salaried positions announced earlier.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.5F_6_3P7jE&refer=home
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:41 AM
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40. Big Pharma Layoffs Mounting -- 26 More Plants to Close
SUGAR LAND, TX, Jul 22, 2008 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Reported by Annette Kreuger, Industrial Info Resources (Sugar Land, Texas) -- Despite the fact that millions of people consume prescription drug products on a daily basis, a tsunami of job cuts continues to roll across the Pharmaceuticals Industry. A recent analysis of Industrial Info Resources' Pharmaceutical Tracker - Online Database reveals 26 North American plants and research facilities currently targeted for closure. Pharma giant Pfizer (PFE:
JNJ 67.32, +0.21, +0.3%) (New Brunswick) are both expected to shed jobs in New Jersey.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/big-pharma-layoffs-mounting---/story.aspx?guid={5F2DF0F6-1895-4FAF-ACC8-24799EFA0D6F}&dist=hppr
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:29 AM
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23. Widespread earnings woes reflect consumer fears (blaming consumer for recession again)
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2146390520080721?sp=true

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The deepening plight of the American consumer has started to take a big bite out of corporate earnings.

A number of major U.S. companies who rely on consumer spending warned about their results on Monday evening, including credit card company American Express Co, Macintosh computer and iPod maker Apple Inc and cruise ship operator Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.

The breadth of the warnings, which also came from makers of chips and carpets, may signal that the credit crisis is quickly moving beyond housing and banks and into mainstream Corporate America.

"It's understandable that the U.S. consumer would be apprehensive with the circumstances -- weakness in housing, gasoline is up, the stock market is down and job insecurity," said Brian Gendreau, an investment strategist in New York for ING Investment Management Americas. "We may actually have a consumer-led recession -- which is rare."

The wrath of the credit crunch and housing collapse of the past year has largely been felt by middle- or lower-income people. But Monday's results reflected a broadening of fears.

American Express executives said that even customers with solid credit scores were facing difficulties and even the very affluent have in some cases cut back discretionary spending.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:46 AM
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25. Royal Caribbean cutting 400 shore-side positions
As for higher-end discretionary spending, Royal Caribbean reported a narrower quarterly profit due to a doubling of fuel costs, and laid out a plan to save $125 million a year.

"Too much of our profitability is being eroded by the increase in fuel prices. This is unacceptable and we are evaluating everything we do to find ways to do it more efficiently and effectively," said Richard Fain, chairman and chief executive of the world's number-two cruise operator.

Royal Caribbean said net income was $84.7 million, or 40 cents per share, down from $128.7 million, or 60 cents, for the comparable year-ago period. Its fuel prices rose 55 percent.

As part of its cost-cutting, the company said it would eliminate about 400 shore-side positions.


oh, goody! lookie here! they are still profitable and the reason for the less stellar number is OIL and so they cut jobs which will weaken the "consumer" further and the dominoes continue to fall.

:grr:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:52 AM
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28. Treasurys decline as officials focus on economy's positives
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/treasurys-decline-officials-focus-economys/story.aspx?guid=%7B9BE4C638%2DDA19%2D41C5%2D878A%2D6DE6884C6635%7D&dist=hplatest

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Treasurys fell early Tuesday, pushing yields up, after Federal Reserve official Charles Plosser said interest-rate hikes will be needed very soon. Two-year notes yields rose (UST2YR) 4 basis points to 2.64%. Plosser, the Philadelphia Fed president, expressed optimism about the economy in 2009. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson also said the country is on the right path to resolving financial and housing market turmoil. Additionally, Treasurys are under pressure ahead of debt sales this week, starting with a $6 billion auction of 20-year inflation-indexed securities today. Bonds rose earlier as poor quarterly results from financial firms and losses in equity futures made government debt seem more appealing.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:08 AM
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32. Positives?
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 08:08 AM by ozymandius
While I agree that interest rate hikes would be a positive move for the national savings rate (provided there's anything to save) there's not much positive here. As is typical - more empty platitudes abound. If a nickel fell into my pocket every time Paulson said "on the right track"....

Meanwhile our government goes deeper into debt with inflation-indexed securities. I wonder how many suckers will buy a security indexed to the level of officially reported, benign inflation?
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:55 AM
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29. futures and blather
8:30
S&P futures vs fair value: -10.0. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -31.0. Futures continue to point to a sharply lower open, with significant weakness in tech stocks. GE (GE) is partnering with Mubadala on initiatives including commercial finance, clean energy research and development, aviation, industry and corporate learning. The two companies will each provide $4 billion in capital over the next three years. In earnings news, Supervalu (SVU) and US Airways (LCC) topped expectations.

8:05
S&P futures vs fair value: -9.5. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -31.5. Futures point to a sharply lower open after several widely held names reported disappointing earnings. American Express (AXP), SanDisk (SNDK), Texas Instruments (TXN) and Wachovia (WB) all reported earnings that missed Wall Street's expectation. The latter company also cut its dividend to $0.050 from $0.375 and is exiting the general bank wholesale mortgagee origination channel. Apple (AAPL) topped its earnings estimate, but issued an earnings guidance that fell short of estimates, sending shares tumbling 10% in premarket trading. Caterpillar (CAT) topped its earnings estimates, but had some cautious comments regarding the economy.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:41 AM
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39. European Stocks, U.S. Futures Drop; Vodafone, Ericsson Decline
July 22 (Bloomberg) -- European stocks fell for the first time in five days and U.S. index futures dropped after Vodafone Group Plc and Apple Inc. reduced revenue forecasts, while Ericsson AB and American Express Co. posted lower profits.

Vodafone, the world's largest mobile-phone company, tumbled 14 percent as the economic slowdown hurts sales prospects. Ericsson sank the most in eight months. American Express, the biggest U.S. credit-card company by purchases, slumped 11 percent after saying consumer defaults rose. Wachovia Corp. slipped as the bank posted a record quarterly loss.

``What we are seeing today is the product of the global economy rolling over and the second round effects from the credit crunch'' on earnings, said Kevin Lilley, a London-based fund manager at Royal London Asset Management which oversees about $63 billion. ``We are now seeing the impact that has had on consumer and business spending.''

Europe's Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index lost 1.7 percent to 277.51 at 1:48 p.m. in London. Futures on the Standard & Poor's 500 Index fell 0.8percent, and Nasdaq-100 Index futures sank 1.7 percent. The MSCI Asia Pacific Index rose 1.6 percent, gaining for a second day.

...

Analysts estimate earnings for companies in the Stoxx 600 will drop 2.4 percent in 2008, Bloomberg data show. That's down from 11 percent growth predicted at the start of the year.

Profit at S&P 500 companies fell 16 percent in the second quarter, the fourth straight decline, according to analysts' estimates. That would be the longest streak in six years, Bloomberg data show.

National benchmark indexes retreated in all 18 western European markets. The U.K.'s FTSE 100 lost 1.7 percent. France's CAC 40 slid 1 percent, and Germany's DAX slipped 1.1 percent.

Vodafone dropped 14 percent to 128.05 pence. The company scaled back its sales forecast after slowing economic growth hurt revenue from phone calls. Full-year sales are now predicted to be ``around the bottom'' of the targeted 39.8 billion pounds ($79.7 billion) to 40.7 billion pounds outlook range.''

`Big Problem'

Telefonica SA, Europe's second-largest telephone company, tumbled 7.1 percent to 16.06 euros.

``The economic slowdown is starting to happen,'' said Andy Lynch, a London-based fund manager at Schroder Investment Management, which has about $10 billion. ``Now we've got a really big problem. We're not just talking about it. We're seeing it in the numbers'' in Vodafone.

Ericsson, the world's biggest maker of wireless networks, sank 9.5 percent to 68 kronor. Second-quarter profit fell 70 percent to 1.9 billion kronor ($320 million). Analysts surveyed by Bloomberg had estimated profit of 2.82 billion kronor and revenue of 48.1 billion kronor.

Apple, the maker of iPhones, dropped 10 percent to $149.73 in German trading. The company said fourth-quarter profit and sales will fall short of projections.

Texas Instruments shares slid 9.9 percent to $25.70 in Germany. Third-quarter profit will be as little as 41 cents a share on sales of at least $3.26 billion, the company said yesterday. Analysts in a Bloomberg survey had estimated earnings of 51 cents a share on sales of $3.56 billion.

STMicroelectronics

STMicroelectronics fell 6.2 percent to 6.76 euros. Infineon, Europe's second-biggest maker of semiconductors, retreated 9.5 percent to 4.74 euros.

American Express lost $4.29 to $36.01. The credit-card company withdrew its 2008 earnings forecast after second-quarter profit declined 37 percent on worse-than-expected consumer defaults.

American Express, Capital One Financial Corp. and Discover Financial Services shares have dropped by more than a third in the past year amid concern the lenders underestimated the depth of the U.S. slowdown.

Wachovia, Fannie

Wachovia, the U.S. bank that hired Treasury Undersecretary Robert Steel as chief executive officer two weeks ago, fell 7.4 percent to $12.20 in pre-market trading. The bank reported a quarterly loss of $8.9 billion and cut the dividend by 87 percent.

Fannie Mae retreated 8.4 percent to $12.95 in Germany, while Freddie Mac lost 5.6 percent to $8.26.

...

Dexia SA, the world's largest lender to local governments, plunged 12 percent to 8.39 euros, the steepest decline since at least 1996. Moody's Investors Service said the company's U.S. bond-insurance unit may lose its top credit rating.

Second-quarter profits at financial companies in the S&P 500 may fall 75 percent from a year earlier, the biggest drop among 10 industries, according to analysts' estimates compiled by Bloomberg last week.

/... http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=acY.J6y02JNc&refer=europe
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:55 AM
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30. WellCare to Restate More than Three Years of Results (medicare fraud)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121669572320672873.html?mod=mktw

WellCare Health Plans Inc. said it will restate more than three years of financial results in response to a Medicaid fraud investigation it has been embroiled in since last fall, and linked the bad accounting to an "inappropriate tone" set by former executives.

The restatement will reduce net income from 2004 through mid-2007 by about 9%, or $28 million, said WellCare, which provides medical benefits for more than 2.4 million people in government health-care programs nationwide.

More than 200 federal and state investigators raided the company's Tampa, Fla., headquarters last fall. The company also faces inquiries from several states and the Securities and Exchange Commission, and lawsuits by shareholders. The company says it is cooperating with the investigations. The decision to restate results stems from an internal inquiry initiated after the government's criminal investigation began.

WellCare hasn't yet filed its 2007 audited financial statements and said it doesn't know when it will release the restated results. It said its restatement estimates don't include the cost of any settlement with regulators and prosecutors and that its internal inquiry continues, though it doesn't expect further restatements.

By accounting for medical expenses improperly, the company said it failed to return about $46.5 million in premiums to state programs providing health care to low-income adults and children in Florida and Illinois, and understated liabilities by about $46 million.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:57 AM
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31. 11 reasons America's a new socialist economy
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/eleven-reasons-america-new-top/story.aspx?guid=D23E1901-728E-4A3C-99D1-7E80F74C3AE3&dist=SecMostRead

ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- Welcome to the conservative's worse nightmare: The law of unintended consequences. Why? Nobody wants to admit it, folks, but the conservatives' grand ideology is backfiring, actually turning the world's greatest capitalistic democracy into the world's newest socialist economy.

A little history: The core principles of conservative economic ideology are grounded in Nobel economist Milton Friedman's 1962 classic "Capitalism and Freedom." Too late to stop President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, those principles became the battle cries energizing conservatives since Reagan: Unrestricted free markets, free enterprise and free trade; deregulation, privatization and globalization; trickle-down economics and trickle-up wealth to an elite plutocracy destined to rule the new American capitalist utopia.

So what happened? Are you guys nuts? Hey, I'm talking to all you blind Beltway politicians (in both parties) ... plus the Old Boys Club running Wall Street (into the ground) ... plus all you fat-cat CEOs (with megamillion parachutes) ... and all your buddies scamming everybody else to get on the Forbes 400. You are proof of Lord Acton's warning: "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

It's backfiring! You folks turned our America from a great capitalistic democracy into a meddling socialist economy. Still you don't get it. You're acting like teen addicts tripping on an overdose of "greed-is-good" testosterone while your caricature of conservative economics would at best make a one-line joke on Jay Leno.

Here are 11 reasons your manipulations are sabotaging the great principles of leaders like Friedman and Reagan:

1. Dumber than a fifth grader with cognitive dissonance

Kids know what it means. They know most adults today can't see past the end of their noses. Liberals tune out candidate McBush for being lost in the past. Conservatives can't hear Obama without seeing that turban.

Cognitive dissonance simply means most brains cannot see past their own narrow ideologies. They dismiss any data that contradicts their old ideologies. Whether you're a conservative Republican or liberal Democrat, you only hear what you already know is "true." All else is tuned out.

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:14 AM
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33. Unfortunately "Capitalism and Freedom" is on my must-read list.
It is an indispensable piece of eloquent drivel that must be read to understand the utter self-immolating stupidity that led us to this sorry state.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:27 AM
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34. A most excellent synopsis.
Mind if I post this piece in General Discussion?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:52 AM
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43. feel free to post anywhere
:hi:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:42 AM
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50. Best line in the whole article...
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 10:00 AM by Prag
"great principles of leaders like Friedman and Reagan" :rofl:


That's what one gets for buying into a pure 'Faith Based' ideology. There's no research or science behind any of this
horse-crap. It's all 'gut feelings' and 'divine justification'.

I'm not a total fan of Keynesian Economics either, but, at least it's empirically based. (That means there's at
least a little bit of study backing it up.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:57 PM
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72. nitpick altert.....
Cognitive Dissonance is not the inability to see past narrow ideologies. That is Myopia or a Myopic viewpoint.

Cognitive Dissonance is a physical and psychological tension caused by holding two conflicting ideas/thoughts in the conscious mind at the same time.

For example: Smokers can suffer from cognitive dissonance when they start considering what the cigarette they are smoking is doing to their bodies. They desire the cigarette, but they fear the consequences of smoking it. Cigarette Bad/Cigarette Good

In the visual arts it is referred to as Attraction/Repulsion. Some artists strive to achieve that effect.

In music it might be an infectious earwig (insert pop ditty here).

So, while one might agree with the author, one wishes that solid arguments were not prone to being undercut by obvious gaps in understanding basic principals.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:26 PM
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93. The Article Is Full of Crap Like That
So you aren't nit-picking. It's just that there isn't enough time in the world to fix something that fundamentally flawed.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:40 AM
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38. steep losses at the open
9:41
Dow 11,406.68 Down 60.66 (0.53%)
Nasdaq 2,254.42 Down 25.11 (1.10%)
S&P 500 1,249.82 Down 10.18 (0.81%)
10-Yr Bond 4.069% Up 0.002

NYSE Volume 150,142,703.125
Nasdaq Volume 131,921,109.375

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:48 AM
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42. and they continue
9:47
Dow 11,388.04 Down 79.30 (0.69%)
Nasdaq 2,253.14 Down 26.39 (1.16%)
S&P 500 1,249.07 Down 10.93 (0.87%)
10-Yr Bond 4.077% Up 0.01

NYSE Volume 258,942,359.375
Nasdaq Volume 210,354,312.5

09:45 am : The stock market opens on a low note after a large number of widely held firms reported disappointing earnings.

Apple (AAPL 150.00, -16.30), American Express (AXP 36.81, -4.10), Texas Instruments (TXN 24.10, -4.42) and Wachovia (WB 11.85, -1.34) all reported disappointing earnings or outlook. The latter company slashed its dividend to $0.040 from $0.375, and is exiting its general bank wholesale mortgage origination channel.

Not all earnings were negative. Caterpillar (CAT 74.86, +1.63) reported a 40% increase in earnings per share, topping estimates. DuPont's (DD 44.65, +0.67) result also came out ahead of expectations.DJ30 -58.05 NASDAQ -23.60 SP500 -9.88
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:42 AM
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41. An interesting announcement, imo
Ricciardi and Gerstner have quite a history together. Gerstner is chairman of the Carlyle Group.


http://financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080721/REG/237099671

Citi puts longtime Lou Gerstner adviser on its board
Ricciardi served with Gerstner at AmEx, RJR Nabisco, and IBM; briefly held CFO post at Big Blue

Citigroup announced on Monday that it has named Lawrence Ricciardi to its board of directors.

Mr. Ricciardi, who served in a number of top positions at IBM from 1995 to 2002—including finance chief—is no stranger to the corporate boardroom. He currently sits on the board of Royal Dutch Shell. He’s also been a director at Koninklijke Nederlandsche Petroleum, as well as Readers Digest. During his stint as a director at Readers Digest, he chaired various committees, including that company’s audit and finance committees.

A graduate of Fordham University and Columbia Law School, Mr. Ricciardi is probably best known for his association with Lou Gerstner. He first joined the corporate world in 1973, signing on at American Express. From 1977 to 1989, Mr. Ricciardi served as executive vice president and general counsel at American Express Travel Related Services, a group Mr. Gerstner began running in 1978. That’s where the pair met.


Previous post on Carlyle
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3564305&mesg_id=3564580
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:57 AM
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45. UPS 2Q Net Falls 21%; Co. Further Cuts EPS View
United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) posted a 21% decline in second-quarter net income as the company further cut its full-year earnings projections.

.....

The world's largest package-delivery company reported net income of $873 million, or 85 cents a share, down from $1.1 billion, or $1.04 a share, a year ago. In June, UPS lowered its earnings expectations to 83 cents to 88 cents a share, citing an "anemic" U.S. economy and an "unprecedented" surge in fuel costs.

Revenue rose 6.7% to $13 billion.

The latest mean estimates of analysts polled by Thomson Reuters were for earnings of 85 cents a share on revenue of $12.81 billion.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200807220827DOWJONESDJONLINE000346_FORTUNE5.htm
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:54 AM
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52. Loonie Watch
Highlights

Current:



30-day and 90-day vs.greenback:



30-day vs. Euro, Yen, UK Pound and Swiss Franc




Currency Comparison: http://members.shaw.ca/trogl/looniewatch.html

Detailed analysis: http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?r=CME_CD

Up-to-the-minute graph: http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=CME_CD.Y%24%24&v=s&w=5&t=l&a=1

Historical values http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/CAD/data30.html

2008-04-08 Tuesday, April 8 0.985125 USD
2008-04-09 Wednesday, April 9 0.981162 USD
2008-04-10 Thursday, April 10 0.982511 USD
2008-04-11 Friday, April 11 0.978857 USD
2008-04-14 Monday, April 14 0.97972 USD
2008-04-15 Tuesday, April 15 0.982222 USD
2008-04-16 Wednesday, April 16 0.997904 USD
2008-04-17 Thursday, April 17 0.989413 USD
2008-04-18 Friday, April 18 0.99167 USD
2008-04-21 Monday, April 21 0.993443 USD
2008-04-22 Tuesday, April 22 0.996711 USD
2008-04-23 Wednesday, April 23 0.980969 USD
2008-04-24 Thursday, April 24 0.987069 USD
2008-04-25 Friday, April 25 0.983961 USD
2008-04-28 Monday, April 28 0.984446 USD
2008-04-29 Tuesday, April 29 0.987362 USD
2008-04-30 Wednesday, April 30 0.990884 USD
2008-05-01 Thursday, May 1 0.981643 USD
2008-05-02 Friday, May 2 0.982125 USD
2008-05-05 Monday, May 5 0.987654 USD
2008-05-06 Tuesday, May 6 0.996413 USD
2008-05-07 Wednesday, May 7 0.998004 USD
2008-05-08 Thursday, May 8 0.985319 USD
2008-05-09 Friday, May 9 0.993838 USD
2008-05-12 Monday, May 12 0.996314 USD
2008-05-13 Tuesday, May 13 1.0004 USD
2008-05-14 Wednesday, May 14 0.998203 USD
2008-05-15 Thursday, May 15 1.0004 USD
2008-05-16 Friday, May 16 1.00341 USD
2008-05-19 Monday, May 19 1.00867 USD


Current values

http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?r=CME_CD)


Market Open High Low Last Change Pct

CD.Y$$ Cash 0.9988 0.9988 0.9935 0.9935 -0.0053 -0.53%
CD.U08 Sep 2008 0.9975 0.9975 0.9920 0.9920 -0.0062 -0.62%
CD.Z08 Dec 2008 0.9991 0.9991 0.9991 0.9976 +0.0052 +0.52%
CD.H09 Mar 2009 0.9757 0.9757 0.9971 +0.0052 +0.52%
CD.M09 Jun 2009 0.9880 0.9880 0.9880 0.9969 +0.0054 +0.54%
CD.U09 Sep 2009 0.9865 0.9865 0.9865 0.9967 +0.0055 +0.55%
CD.Z09 Dec 2009 0.9845 0.9845 0.9845 0.9965 +0.0056 +0.56%


Other combinations: (http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?c=currencies)


Market Open High Low Last Change Pct

AUSTRALIAN $/CANADIAN $ (CME:ACD)
ACD.U08 Sep 2008 0.9702 0.9702 0.9702 0.9702 +0.0002 +0.02%
EURO/BRITISH POUND (NYBOT:GB)
GB.U08.E Sep 2008 (E) 0.7952 0.7952 0.7952 0.7965 +0.0022 +0.28%
EURO/JAPANESE YEN (NYBOT:EJ)
EJ.U08.E Sep 2008 (E) 168.600 168.600 168.230 168.410 -0.175 -0.10%
EURO/US$ (SMALL) (NYBOT:EO)
EO.U08.E Sep 2008 (E) 1.58750 1.58750 1.57980 1.58050 -0.00405 -0.26%


Blather (from http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?r=CME_CD)

The September Canadian Dollar was higher overnight as it consolidates above the 62% retracement level of the May-June decline crossing at 99.80. Stochastics and the RSI are turning neutral to bullish hinting that sideways to higher prices are possible near-term. If September extends this summer's rally, the 75% retracement level crossing at 100.44 is the next upside target. Closes below the 20-day moving average crossing at 98.84 are needed to confirm that a short-term top has been posted. First resistance is the overnight high crossing at 99.98. Second resistance is the 75% retracement level crossing at 100.45. First support is the 10-day moving average crossing at 99.39. Second support is the 20-day moving average crossing at 98.84.


Analysis

Looks like this is actually going to be a greenback watch given the graphs on the TLP. Everything took a dip (rise on the graphs) about an hour ago.

On another note you may remember last week I was waxing rhaspodic on the Spanish banking system - how they had survived relatively unscathed. Turns out my optimism may have been based on window-dressing. No link, but if you're into this sort of thing, better take another look.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:10 PM
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98. Spanish watch
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:35 AM
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53. Why, yes, Halliburton is doing just fine. Thanks for asking.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 10:36 AM by TalkingDog
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080722/earns_halliburton.html

HOUSTON (AP) -- Halliburton's second-quarter profit fell about 67 percent from a year ago, when it recorded a nearly $1 billion gain from its split with former subsidiary KBR, but the oilfield services provider posted record revenue and said prospects look good for the remainder of 2008.


Income from continuing operations met Wall Street forecasts, and the company said it continued to expand its business globally.

Halliburton Co., which has corporate offices in Houston and Dubai, said earnings for the April-June period were $507 million, or 55 cents a share. That compares with year-ago profit of $1.53 billion, or $1.62 a share, which included a $933 million gain from the KBR Inc. separation.

snip:
Revenue rose to a record $4.48 billion from $3.73 billion a year ago, beating Wall Street's $4.25 billion average estimate.

//

headline spelling error


no comment
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:38 AM
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54. Rats...
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 10:47 AM by Prag
I was going to use "I'm Alright" by Kenny Loggins as my Theme today, but, now I can't.

Edit to add: Weren't they about broke back in 2002? Going to be 'de-listed'? Hmm... Could be part of my
'mental recession' I've been telediagnosed with. But, I seem to remember that.

Off to the Archives!

Ah, here it is... Jan 11, 2002 $5.45/share. Queue the Monty Python... "I'm feeling much better now."
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:53 AM
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58. I want to go for a walk......n/t
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:12 AM
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65. 'Horse and Sparrow' theory...
:rofl:

'The economist John Kenneth Galbraith noted that "trickle-down economics" had been tried before in the United States in the 1890s under the name "horse and sparrow theory": "if you feed enough oats to the horse, some will pass through to feed the sparrows."'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics#Criticisms
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:19 PM
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69. That really says it all doesn't it?
"Let them eat shit"!
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:50 AM
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57. Cartoon? Awesome!!!!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:08 PM
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103. Somehow, I have missed that ending

:P
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:57 AM
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67. Plosser: Rate hike needed to fight inflation
The president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia today called for an interest rate hike to combat rising inflation, which he expects to get “uncomfortably high.”

“More attention should now be paid to measures of headline inflation in setting monetary policy,” a move that would necessitate an increase in interest rates, said Charles I. Plosser, a voting member of the Federal Reserve’s Federal Open Market Committee.

He spoke at the Philadelphia Business Journal Book of Lists Power Breakfast in King of Prussia, Pa.

Mr. Plosser also said that he expects that the economy will “grow this year, but at a slow pace, and the unemployment rate is likely to get worse before it gets better.”

http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080722/REG/245114035/-1/RSS02&rssfeed=RSS02
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:33 PM
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70. Dollar gains broadly on oil slump, Plosser comments
NEW YORK, July 22 (Reuters) - The dollar rallied sharply on Tuesday, boosted by a steep drop in oil prices and comments from a Federal Reserve official suggesting that U.S. interest rates may have to rise even before financial markets recover.

Remarks by U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson reiterating that a strong dollar was in the interest of the country also supported the greenback.

"U.S. officials are out in force this morning talking up the dollar and attempting to restore some stability in the financial markets," said Kathy Lien, chief strategist, at DailyFX.com.

"With U.S. Treasury Secretary Paulson saying 'a strong dollar is really very important' and Fed President Plosser calling for a rate hike before the economy turns around, it is not surprising to see the euro below $1.59," she added.

/... http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN2229655720080722?rpc=44
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:23 PM
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77. I don't see general inflation occurring at the same rate as gas price hikes
Housing prices are going down, stock prices are, too. Food and building materials held steady until gasoline went sky high.

How will increasing interest rates help unemployment, or help the economy grow? :shrug: I don't see his logic.

Seems to me if you want to stem the tide of inflation, keep the price of oil low. We can only do that as a nation by getting our green economy up and running with renewable resource energy, conservation and recycling.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:34 PM
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78. just to keep labor from getting ideas about disruptions to restore the loss in their buying power.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:26 PM
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87. Morning Marketeers......
:donut: and lurkers. First thing I heard this morning was frantic discussions about Hurricane Dolly in the Gulf and possibly hitting South Texas. Let me reassure you folks-we are not worried about it here in Texas. I didn't even buy an extra loaf of bread. Of course folks in south Texas are having to batten down the hatches, but no major evacuations and such. If you listened and believed those blathering talking heads-we should all be in church praying to God to spare us. Unless it stays for a while in the Gulf and strengthen, the only thing it will bring is cooler temps and some much needed rain. As far as off shore oil rigs, most are located off shore from Beaumont/Port Arthur Texas to Mississippi. There is no reason to blame this hurricane for gas price increases.

I have been getting Dr's appointment and reams of paperwork done for my daughter in preparation for her going off to college. Hubby invited her to dinner at our fav Chinese place. She came but said she wasn't hungry. I ask her why she came if she wasn't hungry. She was so sweet, she said she came because she wanted to spend some time with us. She has not been hungry and food hasn't been agreeing with her lately. I remember that I lost my appetite before I went to college. I wasn't scared or stressed out. I just wasn't hungry. It was the skinniest I has ever been in my life. My daughter told me it was preparation for the Freshman 15. I don't know, but she felt a little better when I mentioned my experiences.

And speaking of sending your child out into the world......She had us laughing out butts off last week. She went out to register voters (for Barack Obama) at a big Van's Band s tour of America. She got a free pass, but the lady took a shine to her and gave her a back stage pass. After a few hours of registering folks, she decided to go back stage. She was talking to the stage hand and musicians (that is her thing). SHe finish up and was walking off the stage when she noticed the mosh pit was moving toward her. She got off the stage hoping to get out of the way before it came to her. There was this guy on the edges that was trying to make it bigger. This guy that was over a foo taller and at least 120 lbs heavier than her came up to my daughter, called her a bitch and punched her in the eye. She asked him why did he do that. She said he really started cussing her. I asked her what she did then. She said she got angry when he kept cussing her so she hauled of and hit him in the eye......but she just didn't hit him....she cold cocked him. He hit the floor like the dumb bag of rocks he was. My daughter looked down to make sure he was breathing. She said the crowd was cheering but she said that she heard one guy say 'that's why none of my girl friends are from Texas'. She beat a retreat when the guy looked like he was coming too. She ended up with a black eye and a great story. I told her the only solace that I could give her was that that bozo probably felt worse and he damn sure wouldn't dare tell the truth as to how he got his black eye. Her Dad's neighbors laughed so had at the story and gave her a celebratory beer. Her guy friends have refused to go out with her because everyone gives THEM dirty looks when they see her eye. And me.... I feel better knowing that my little baby opened her first can of whoop ass and know how to use it (and I have the picture to prove it).

Happy hunting and watch out for the bears.....
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:18 PM
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84. (More Dollar jawboning): Euro now overvalued, dlr near balance-IMF's Lipsky
WASHINGTON, July 22 (Reuters) - The euro is now overvalued, while the U.S. dollar's decline has brought it closer to its medium-term equilibrium in a decade, a top official at the International Monetary Fund said on Tuesday.

The IMF had previously said the euro was on the "strong side" of its fundamentals. Last week, the euro nudged above $1.60 <EUR=>, putting more pressure on European exporters who complain the currency's steep rise is bad for business, especially when global economic growth is slowing.

"In our view, the euro is now overvalued relative to medium-term fundamentals, while the currencies of many current account surplus countries, including China, remain substantially undervalued, despite a small appreciation in real effective terms," John Lipsky, the IMF's deputy managing director, said in a speech at the Brookings Institution.

"Following the post-2002 decline (in the dollar's value), we assess that the U.S. currency today is the closest to its medium-term equilibrium value in a decade," he added.

Lipsky noted that the decline in the value of the dollar was helping bring down the U.S. current account deficit, but that may be offset by record-high energy prices that were driving up surpluses in oil-exporting countries.

As a result, "new misalignments may be emerging and risks may be shifting," he said.

...

"Notwithstanding the dramatic claims by some, there is no doubt that the dollar will retain the central role, even though it may gradually share the stage with other currencies to a greater degree than at present," Lipsky said.

While the dollar will not be replaced as the dominant international currency, it is quite likely that eventually it will begin to share this role with the euro, he added.

He said the Chinese currency's <CNY=> importance could also increase as China's economy grows in size, but this would require full currency convertibility, a more open capital account and a track record of low and stable inflation.

In the first quarter of 2008, the dollar made up nearly two-thirds of central bank international holdings. Emerging economies, which have amassed trillions of dollars in reserves, have an average dollar share of around 60 percent, roughly unchanged since 2004.

"In the longer run, the demand for dollar assets and dollar reserves will depend on global developments," Lipsky said.

...

Also, more assertive policy tightening will be necessary in emerging economies where underlying inflation is picking up. In industrial economies, a timely adjustment will be needed as economies recover, Lipsky added.

/... http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN2229436320080722?rpc=44&sp=true

That would be the "recovery" slated to happen just when, Mr. Lipsky?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:58 AM
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68. ~13:00 ET: Looks like 11,500 on the Dow is the new ASL.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 11:59 AM by Prag
Index Last Change % change
• DJIA 11491.77 +24.43 +0.21%
• NASDAQ 2273.76 -5.77 -0.25%
• S&P 500 1259.09 -0.91 -0.07%


Before you ask, in this case (ASL = Artificial Support Level) and not (ASL = Age, Sex, Location) as found in
numerous chat rooms throughout the known Virtual Universe.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 12:55 PM
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71. Why do gold/silver & yen/Ca$ fluctuate opposite each other?
It seems when 1 set goes up, the other goes down. Thanks and thanks for doing this stock market thing every day.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:18 PM
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73. Gold and the dollar have been inversely traded of late.
This hasn't always been the case historically, but it has been recently.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:21 PM
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74. Thanks. I've only been watching for a while, seemed odd to me.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:29 PM
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88. Any ideas as to why......
there is also a gold to oil ratio that has seemed to fly out the window too.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:46 PM
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90. A lot of these hedge funds have mathematical models that trade various things inversely.
For example, if they have noticed an inverse correlation between, say Procter and Gamble and GM, they will short GM on upward moves in P&G. The same applies for the move in gold versus the dollar. Just seven years ago I noticed no such correlation. Throughout the '90s you would also struggle to find these correlations consistently. These models have begun to break down because there is growing disagreement about the direction of these assets.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:53 PM
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79. ~15:45 ET: How wasteful...
Index Last Change % change
• DJIA 11563.42 +96.08 +0.84%
• NASDAQ 2294.30 +14.77 +0.65%
• S&P 500 1272.06 +12.06 +0.96%



Looks like the "boost" set to recover anticipated fall this morning went off even though the expected losses this morning didn't materialize. Stagnant all day then up ~100 pts in the last 15 minutes of trading. (Like clock work) Still looks artificial.

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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:05 PM
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80. Amazing late day rally in the completely rigged and propped up markets
There's not even a semblance of democracy or free markets remaining, it's official public policy that all fraudulent banks will be bought by the FED and shorting limits will be enforced.

The worst part of it all is that most Americans are so dumbed-down they aren't even aware of it. The greed monster public just asks the same question over and over: "Where can I safely put my money?" which is answered by the same propaganda masters who are robbing them blind, "Everything is safe, we're in control, don't worry about anything".

Americans live in a propagandized system of fascism where corporations rule the gov't and media and until Americans are willing to learn that, nothing will change.
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burf Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:10 PM
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82. May I ask
Just what was the reason for this "irrational exuberance" in the last hour of the day?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:16 PM
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83. They're claiming it was a ~$3.00 decline in the price of crude...
The claim is Investors were "snatching up undervalued financials".

Wachovia is one... After claiming a HUGH LOSS!!! and job cuts only this morning.

But, from what I can see Air Carriers made up most of the gain. Understandable, I suppose.

If you ask me they're grasping at straws to make huge leaps based on a $3.00/bbl decline.

Also, financials were in trouble LAST August when oil was much cheaper. I guess they don't remember that.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:50 PM
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104. I agree that a drop in oil price isn't enough to go gaga over. How about ramping up some solar
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 09:52 PM by wordpix
panel and wind generator manufacturing, and turning invasive plants into biofuels for getting the economy really going?
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:23 PM
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86. I don't know what the invented excuse is
I do know that the markets are manipulated by people that only care about making money themselves or making money on their image, aka cronies. I don't know where the markets are going either as propaganda is rapidly losing its effectiveness and actual reality will have to start creeping into people's consciousness.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:35 PM
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99. But earnings are in, so macroeconomic propaganda can rule
for a week or two now?
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:59 PM
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89. The latest headline: "Money for nothin' and yer chicks for free!"
Easy, easy money for nothin'
And your chicks for free.


Dire Straits (paraphrased...forgive)

Now look at them yo-yos thats the way you do it
You play the ponies on easy street
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and chicks for free
Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
Lemme tell ya them guys aint dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

See the little faggot with the silk tie and the bluetooth
Yeah buddy thats his own hair
That little faggot got his own jet airplane
That little faggot hes a millionaire

We gotta install microwave ovesns
Custom kitchens deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs

I shoulda learned to play the market
I shoulda learned to throw them dice
Look at that mama, she got it stickin in the camera
Man we could have some fun
And hes up there, whats that? hawaiian noises?
Bangin on computers like a chimpanzee
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Get your money for nothin get your chicks for free

We gotta install microwave ovens
Custom kitchen deliveries
We gotta move these refrigerators
We gotta move these colour tvs, lord

Now that aint workin thats the way you do it
You play the market on th' Wall Street beat
That aint workin thats the way you do it
Money for nothin and your chicks for free
Money for nothin and chicks for free



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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:43 PM
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94. I thought the markets went up because chocolate rations increased.
But I'll say, specimenfred, that this rally is the most daft waste of money I've seen in awhile.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:50 PM
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101. That drop to below 11,000
and the failure of IndyMac really loosened so purse strings in addition to some sphincter muscles on Wall Street and DC. I think this whole rally is an effort to soothe some jangled nerves and lull folks into a false sense of security...just my $0.02.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:09 PM
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81. It is on days like today when you wonder what planet you are on.


Wachovia posts an 8.9 Billion dollar loss, layoffs of about 6500, and the Stock soars 28%, and the rest of the Financials are throwing a Meth Party.

And now we are told by a clueless, and ever evidently CRIMINAL Congress that the FNM/FRE Bailout is going to cost the Taxpayers no more than 25 Billion.

Yes, America, they DO think you are THAT Stupid.

If the true number was 25 Billion, FNM and FRE could PAY THEIR OWN WAY out of this mess.

Just more "Hide The Meltdown" nonsense, especially after the abysmal earnings that came out yesterday.

The Manipulated, Obnoxious CASINO our Markets have become is disgusting.

They are pushing on a string, and they know it.

It's becoming pretty clear to me that The Powers That Be are not focused on actually managing or solving the systemic problems that threaten the entire economic and finanical system of our country, but rather they are focused on managing the PERCEPTION of the American Public toward those problems.

And unfortunately, for the most part, it seems to be working like a charm.

Welcome to The United States Of Pleasantville.

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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:23 PM
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85. Washington Mutual Reports 3.24 LOSS VS. Expected 1.02
Stock Up 7.8% After Hours.

Just Think, if an Asteroid hit the Planet, the Financials would be up 7000%!

Pass The Bong!

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080722/20080722006359.html?.v=1
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:15 PM
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91. The WaMu rally makes no sense and neither does Wachovia.
The financials last week made some sense because most of them reported news that made the amount of difficulty they were facing more clear. JP Morgan, PNC, and Wells Fargo all had pretty decent numbers considering the fear that existed out there.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:51 PM
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96. I was wondering this morning if I'd be standing in line outside Wachovia.
It lost nearly 9 BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS!!!

And it closed UP 27 FUCKING PERCENT!!!!!

Are people fucking nuts? Yes.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:03 PM
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97. Damn straight they're nuts. If this was a conscious act to buy - they deserve to lose their money.
There are automated buying programs that will snatch up shares if the price falls below a certain threshold. It's a brainless act. Then there's the other brainless act: short buying/selling on bad news. Brainless, bloodsucking idiots who participated in this buying orgy deserve to lose their shirts.
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:12 PM
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105. your absolutely right
:rofl: :spray:
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:40 PM
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100. Do not forget that they will also be providing narrative to help McSame
get (s)elected come November...
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:50 PM
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95. The end: rally on huge volume swings and blather full of make-believe
Dow 11,602.50 Up 135.16 (1.18%)
Nasdaq 2,303.96 Up 24.43 (1.07%)
S&P 500 1,277.00 Up 17.00 (1.35%)
10-Yr Bond 4.0970% Up 0.0300

NYSE Volume 6,228,605,000
Nasdaq Volume 2,579,835,500

4:30 pm : The stock market posted a solid gain on Tuesday, after a late-day surge led by the financial sector helped investors shrug off worse-than-expected earnings reports from major tech and financial firms. A drop in crude prices, thanks to the easing of a tropical storm threat, also helped bring buyers to the table.

Tuesday looked like it was going to be an ugly session, as stocks opened 0.9% lower. But investors took the opportunity to buy the dip, encouraged by a drop in crude prices and a turnaround in financial stocks. The stock market ended the session with a gain of 1.4%, with six of the ten sectors posting a gain.

Smaller-cap names played a large role in the broader market's strength, especially within the tech sector -- the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite rose 1.1%, compared to the 0.1% rise of the large-cap Nasdaq 100. The Russell 2000 spiked 2.8%, benefiting from a 22% surge in airline stocks, thanks to a handful of better-than-expected reports and the drop in crude prices.

Financials were at the center of the opening losses and the subsequent late-session rally. The sector fell 3.8% at the open after Wachovia (WB 16.80, +3.62) reported a larger-than-expected loss of $8.9 billion and American Express (AXP 38.12, -2.78) disappointed with its earnings and outlook.

Wachovia recovered from a loss of 11.6% after investors were encouraged that the company plans to raise $5 billion in capital using organic measures, instead of a dilutive capital raise. Wachovia enjoyed an added boost, settling with a gain of 27%, after a Deutsche Bank analyst indicated this may mark the bottom for Wachovia. The financial sector followed suit, surging to a gain of 6.6%, with notable strength in diversified banks (+13.6%). Exchange operators also posted a solid advance after CME Group (CME 366.77, +41.24) topped its earnings estimates.

Did Wachovia hire Deutsche Bank to make this analysis?


The financial sector is now up 31.5% in the last week.

The industrial sector (+2.2%) also outperformed.

General Electric (GE 28.51, +0.82) announced that it is partnering with Mubadala, an Abu Dhabi firm, on initiatives including commercial finance, and clean energy research and development. Each company will provide $4 billion in equity over the next three years.

Strong emerging-market demand helped Caterpillar (CAT 75.00, +1.77) increase earnings per share 40% year-over-year, topping estimates.

UPS (UPS 62.11, +2.65) reported in-line earnings, relieving investors. The company called the economy "bleak," but kept its full year earnings forecast in-line with expectations.

Overall, earnings results were mostly better than expected, including beats by Biogen Idec (BIIB 71.29, +4.44), Baker Hughes (BHI 86.17, +1.81), DuPont (DD 45.22, +1.17), Lockheed Martin (LMT 103.72, +2.13) and UnitedHealth (UNH 26.18, +2.35). Merck (MRK 31.33, -4.00) reported better-than-expected results for its latest quarter, but continued concerns over its cholesterol drug Vytorin sent shares tumbling.

Large-cap tech was a pocket of weakness, with Apple (AAPL 162.02, -4.27) and Texas Instruments (TXN 24.44, -4.08) slipping on their respective earnings/outlooks. Memory chip maker SanDisk (SNDK 13.62, -4.31) fell 24% on its earnings report. The tech sector underperformed with a loss of 0.1%, although this is a substantial improvement from its session low when it was down 2.0%.

The energy sector (-2.2%) was a laggard, falling in conjunction with crude prices. DJ30 +135.16 NASDAQ +24.13 NQ100 +0.1% R2K +2.8% SP400 +1.4% SP500 +17.00 NASDAQ Adv/Vol/Dec 1912/2.56 bln/926 NYSE Adv/Vol/Dec 2227/1.57 bln/926
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:01 PM
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102. Most...
stupid...recovery.....ever. Let's see who has the balls to hold their positions over the weekend.
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:21 PM
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106. dang there smokin something and its not tobacco
:smoke:
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