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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:28 PM
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Democrats blast Bush administration for targeting workers, not employers, in immigration raids
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose, blasted the Bush administration today for conducting what Democrats described as harsh and punitive immigration raids, calling special attention to a raid at a kosher meatpacking plant in Iowa last May where nearly 400 illegal workers, mainly Guatemalans, were arrested in the largest worksite immigration raid in U.S. history.

Lofgren, who chairs the House Judiciary Committee's immigration panel, said at a hearing on the raid that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents rounded up workers at the Agriprocessors meat packing plant in Postville, Iowa, and then they were "herded into a cattle arena and prodded down a cattle chute, coerced into guilty pleas and then to federal prison."

In all, 306 illegal immigrants ultimately were charged with Social Security fraud for using illegal Social Security numbers, and also a higher offense, aggravated identity theft, which carried two-year mandatory minimum sentence. The government offered a plea bargain to dismiss the identity theft charge in return for their admission to the lesser offense, which gave them a five-month sentence and order of removal.

Lofgren and other Democrats on the panel accused the administration of targeting workers instead of employers in what has become a major enforcement crackdown on illegal immigration since the collapse last year of a comprehensive immigration overhaul that would have eased legalization requirements. The overhaul was backed by President Bush and most Democrats, and opposed by most Republicans. It died in the Senate in June 2007.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/24/MN6P11V1JC.DTL&type=politics
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:40 PM
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1. Union-busting by Any Other Name. . . .
The huge meatpacking plant had been cited by government agencies for numerous violations of environmental and labor laws and for "acts of inhumane slaughter" of animals. New inquiries were under way into allegations of wage violations and the illegal employment of minors. A large national union was trying to organize the factory's 970 workers. But all this was put on hold the morning of May 12, 2008.

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If this had happened in another country, many of us would condemn it as an effort by an authoritarian regime to smash a unionization drive. But it happened in Postville, Iowa, so we call the massive May 12 raid by the U.S. government's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at the Agriprocessors kosher meatpacking plant a "workplace enforcement operation."

This was not the first ICE operation to have a negative impact on union activities.

  • On December 12, 2006, some 1,000 ICE agents raided six Swift & Company meat processing plants in six states, arresting a total of 1,282 immigrant workers. The United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW) -- the same union that was active in Postville -- represents workers at five of the plants.
  • On January 24, 2007, ICE arrested 21 workers at the Smithfield Foods Inc. meatpacking plant in Tar Heel, North Carolina. The UFCW had been trying to organize in Tar Heel for years, and the raid came after a November 2006 wildcat in which about a thousand workers shut down the plant for two days to keep Smithfield from firing 75 immigrant employees.
  • On July 10, 2007, ICE arrested 25 current and former Swift & Company employees. One of those arrested was a local UFCW official, Braulio Pereyra-Gabino, who faced criminal charges of "harboring illegal aliens."

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    Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:48 PM
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    2. The Neocons want frightened workers with no recourse to challenge anything their bosses
    choose to do. This is why the bosses aren't being targeted. It's disenfranchisement and bullying, an attempt to create cheap, abusable, disposable labor.

    It's sadistic. There would only be bosses and slaves in their grand vision, and no one to challenge them or hold them to account.
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    zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:34 PM
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    3. I've said it many times ...
    fine the employers for hiring illegals ... once you take away the incentive, the illegals will cease to seek employment here ...

    As long as companies are willing to hire illegals and not pay the consequences, they'll keep doing it. As soon as one batch gets shipped off (preferably after the shift is over but before they get paid), there are plenty who will take their place ... that's the Right thought process ...
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    markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 07:52 AM
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    6. Not Enough....
    Fining the employers would only add to their "costs of doing business" and would ultimately be passed on the the customer.
    If you want to take away the incentive, how's about a two year mandatory sentence for employing illegals?

    I know... what am I thinking? This is MURIKA! Rich white men don't go to prison in MURIKA! :sarcasm:

    --MAB
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    zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:17 AM
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    7. actually, I took a page from the RWers ...
    I suggested that the employers get the same option that the RWers had about "adult videos".

    Back then, one RWer suggested that there be a license to rent "adult videos". Each copy of each title had to have its own individual license - of approximately $1000. Per tape/DVD.

    So, I take their idea ... the employers can use illegal immigrants legally and without punishment - if they get a license to do so. The fee for the license? $1000 per illegal immigrant worker per day.
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    Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 03:30 PM
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    9. Licensing?
    They are breaking the law by hiring illegals in the first place, they'll just ignore the license and continue breaking the law.
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    zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:28 PM
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    10. ah, but then they can be fined
    something to the tune of $5k per offense ...

    the problem is, the "law and order" police depts seem to look the other way ... no crime's being committed unless it's some liberal protestor jaywalking ... then it's time to "bust some heads" ...
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    JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 08:02 AM
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    13. I have to agree.
    I'm not sure that I have any big problem with "illegal" immigration, myself. I'd prefer a more open door.

    But that said, if the goal is to stop it, then start arresting those employers who flaunt the law. Not fines, which as you say are written off as the cost of doing business. Jail time.

    Once it actually impacts THEIR lives, they'll start doing something about it.
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    Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:30 PM
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    4. Bush has figured out how to help corporations keep slave labor alive.
    He makes Nixon and Reagan look like patriots by comparison.
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    flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 05:22 AM
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    5. Let's not forget some Fortune 500s and prison labor at 17 cents an hour. nt
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    AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 10:28 AM
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    8. Self Deportation and Starving Immigrant Families
    the solution of destroying Poor Immigrant families by cutting their source of income comes out on both sides of the political spectrum.

    There is no humanitarian proposal in trying to make people to starve before they deport themselves to their native country, where is the compassion of the american public? not in the democratic or republican party.
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    Big_Mike Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 11:05 PM
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    11. The NY Times had a pretty good story about this
    at Employers Fight Tough Measures on Immigration

    They point out that it is the employers themselves trying to light up on the raids. They also talk about Arizona's law, and that they are trying to ease the restrictions somewhat.

    Frankly, I think that if you hire an illegal, you take your medicine. Get a program established that brings folks here LEGALLY. I bet a whole lot of current problems would ease.

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    alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 11:23 PM
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    12. Supply side enforcement. If there was no demand, supply will dry up.
    Politically, it allows leaders to pretend they are doing their job. Send a couple CEO's to jail and demand may start to dry up.

    Sending businessmen to jail is against everything the Reps believe in. Of course if the businessman is a Dem, all bets are off.
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