Same-sex marriage foes warn of kindergarten lessons on gay matrimony

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Backers of a November initiative to ban same-sex marriage in California plan to tell voters in the state ballot pamphlet that the constitutional amendment would protect children as young as kindergarten age from being taught in school about the virtues of gay and lesbian matrimony.

"If the gay marriage ruling is not overturned, teachers will be required to teach young children there is no difference between gay marriage and traditional marriage," supporters of Proposition 8 said in ballot arguments that went on public display this week at the secretary of state's office.

It's all nonsense and scare tactics, opponents of the measure said Thursday. Steve Smith, strategist for the No on 8 campaign, said opponents of the measure will decide by next week whether to sue, which is the only way a ballot argument can be changed before the election.

The argument represents an attempt by opponents of same-sex marriage to open a new front in the Prop. 8 campaign, although the interplay between gay rights and educational standards in California has surfaced before. Religious conservatives have sued in federal court to overturn a state law that took effect this year prohibiting public schools from discriminating because of sexual orientation or identity.

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If they aren't going to learn it in school, I'll teach it at home.

Why does this have anything to do with children in the first place?

But since the pro-ballot groups are desperate, they'll do anything to make it look like there's a "gay agenda".

A court would make they remove the language in a heartbeat.

But this attempt is a nasty attempt to once again tie bigotry up with people's love of their children. Really one of the oldest tricks in the book - and used because it's often effective.

It's just that simple

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how difficult is that?

Who CARES what their chromosomes or genitals are beyond the people involved and WHY SHOULD anyone care. I always told my kid that my wish was for kid to find someone to love with both of them being good for each other. Period. Guess I have low moral values or something.

They aren't thinking about presenting it as healthy, as in two people that love each other can get married and it doesn't mater the gender, they're off on some perverted tangent on presenting it to very young children. I can't even guess what going through their perverted twisted brains.

Ephesians 5:22-24

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so the wives to their own husbands in every thing.


Once again their Holy Babble is challenged by a common sense approach to life, love, and partnership. Poor babies.

Misogynist - A man who hates every bone in a woman's body, except his. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=misogynist

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Personally, I believe that Paul preached what HE wanted to be preached. Paul is the dominant writer in the NT with 13 letters.

A friend of my son's is a PhD candidate who has studied several dead languages. He gets a kick out of the differences between the "translations" of ancient Greek Biblical texts that we have come to accept, and the actual texts.

They are supposed to follow Jesus, not the ex murderer Paul.

Some Biblical scholars actually consider Paul a "mole": a false follower of Jesus who purposely spread teachers that were the antithesis of Jesus'.

how Paul preached one way but when confronted by those in authority of the teachings of Jesus would tell them something else.

I have always been very careful to not bring any of my personal beliefs into the classroom, especially in controversial areas.

There's a difference between teaching about marriage and sex education. I imagine they do teach about families--the old Dick and Jane readers were teaching about families by having a nuclear mom and dad family and Dick and Jane and their little sister.

I still remember when Los Angeles Cardinal Phony Mahoney, the pedophile shuffler, was bullshitting about the Los Angeles school district putting "Heather Has Two Mommies" and "Daddy's Boyfriend" in school libraries. like Phony Mahoney is an example of ethical behavior...

I don't remember my kinder teacher spending any time at all on marriage.

Mostly, we did caterpillars and milk.

Ha! we can't even afford a decent anti drug program for the middle schools here. Where are we going to get the money to persue the pro gay education agenda?? :crazy:

Heck, my daughter was 17 months old when she started learning the marriage was between 2 people who love each other irregardless of their genders when my husband, the kidlet and I went to a party to celebrate the marriage of 2 of our friends who are lesbians. She's 6 now and thinks nothing of the fact that her friend Sean has 2 moms while she has a mom and a dad. Why wait for kindergarten is what I say! :)

only the crass and bigoted would shut down that conversation. No more complicated than talking about the many different kinds of "families" we see in the world.

State law already makes "marriage" and "civil union" legally equivalent in every way. In this sense, the argument has been true since early 2005. And that's a good thing.

Instead of toasters, that is.:eyes:

Ever worrying about the potentially cataclysmic effects of (god forbid) treating everybody like they're (gulp) NORMAL?

I wish I had as much time as they seem to have to worry about such things. Oh well, I guess I'm glad to know that they've only got society's "backside"

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if the hetero lesson doesn't exist currently, what reason is there to believe the gay one would?

Indeed, you bigot.