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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:57 AM
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Suskind to Release CIA Interview Transcripts on 'Forged' Document
Source: CQ politics

Author Ron Suskind says he will release transcripts of his interviews with a top CIA official that will confirm his story that in 2003 the White House ordered the agency to fabricate a phony document linking Iraq to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, D.C.

The letter, written by an Iraqi intelligence official under the control of the CIA, according to Suskind, was concocted to mislead the public into believing that Saddam Hussein conspired with Osama Bin Laden in the attacks, and had gotten uranium from Niger to make nuclear weapons, thus justifying the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

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But in a telephone interview this evening, Suskind said he is planning to release transcripts of his on-the-record interviews with Richer to back up his story.

"There are lots of transcripts, lots of tapes," Suskind told me. "In the next couple days the transcripts will be coming out."

Suskind said he will probably post them on his own Web site.

Read more: http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2008/08/suskind-to-release-cia-intervi.html
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 10:08 AM
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1. GOOD! When I heard Condi say "The White House would NEVER
ask someone to forge a letter on an issue this serious!" it reminded me of her "noone would have ever imagined anyone would use planed as missles and fly them into buildings!" comment. I don't believe EITHER comment was true!!!!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:36 PM
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22. "on an issue this serious" So, then, it begs the question:
What would the White House consider unserious enough to ask someone to forge a letter?

Is this an actual quote and if so, could you source it. It could be very, very useful.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:43 PM
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24. I found the quote and it wasn't exactly as you posted it, but the important part was
She really did say "on an issue this serious". Too bad the mainstream media won't pick up on that softball lobbed from the CYA Condi.
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bdf Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:37 PM
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29. The White House didn't ask, it ORDERED
As you say, anything Condi Lies 'R' Us says is, by definition, a lie.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 10:09 AM
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2. Suskind will be on with Hartmann today.
Sadly I won't be near a radio or internet when he's on. Try to listen if you can.

www.thomhartmann.com
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 10:22 AM
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3. K&R Thanks for posting this. Saw Suskind on teevee AGAIN this
a.m. He certainly seems very confident to me. Please, please, please let this revelation be the one to send * over the edge of the impeachment table!
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 10:29 AM
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4. I saw him on Matthews show last night - he sure seemed confident

Wow. A real smoking gun. Please let it be true.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:39 AM
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14. I swear each time I hear Suskind he's MORE confident than the last time.
It's as if he is saying, "Hey, guys, don't you see what I've got here? This is IT!!!!"
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:40 AM
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16. he even posted partial transcripts - something he's never done before...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:30 AM
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10. The MSM has tried to smack him down hard, and he's having none of it..
his answers were confident and concise. I loved how he kept using the word "irrefutable" over and over again. And calling out George Tenet for the liar he is, while still referring to him as a "good guy". It's clear that George Tenet was just another one of Dick Cheney's amiable lackeys/victims, as was Scooter Libby.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:36 AM
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13. Oh I so agree with you about George Tenet. Bush tried to throw
him a bone with the Medal of Freedom, didn't he? I think Tenet is likely, if not soon, sometime in the future, to give us the truth. Scooter, on the other hand, is a willing participant, imho.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:57 AM
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19. K&R! From the "VP's Office."
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 10:32 AM
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5. Could be that Richer lied to Suskind to cover up Cheney-OSP forgery
Phil Giraldi (former CIA counter-terrorism head) says that the letter was forged, but it wasn't Tenet who ordered Richer - Giraldi says Cheney ordered Feith at OSP to do it. Either way, this is going to be interesting.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:02 AM
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6. Why is everyone so casual about this story
What makes my blood boil is not the content of Suskind's revelation .. but how everyone seems to be taking the story in the stride. Democrats treat this as another story that is true but of no use to them ... and rethuglicans are confident in the knowledge that no one is going to do anything about it. Those bastard republicans spend $125 million in investigating a blow job ....and what are we doing in return for much more serious crimes that has led to thousands of deaths and 100's of billions of dollars.. ... I wish the whole white house crew is killed execution style on national tv for what they have done to America ... I hope Cheney's carcass is fed to mad dogs ..
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:32 AM
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11. Because the V.P. of the United States is very likely guilty of treason..
at worst, a felonious crime against the U.S. at best. Now there is a smoking gun to prove it. Behind the scenes everybody is freaking out you can be sure of that, but they've got to put up a calm front so that the entire country, if not the world, doesn't go batshit crazy. We're already on the verge of a complete market collapse, they're trying to keep things in check as best they can for as long as they can.
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:04 PM
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20. Exactly.
I feel like I'm seeing a pile up on the interstate. Cars keep running into it for days and days but police, fire, and rescue never show up. People keep calling 911, but the responders are all too busy eating donuts or something.

I can barely focus on work I am so pissed off and plain weirded out by the lack of response.

Also, why do posts about Suskind seem to sink so fast on DU?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:49 PM
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26. Not everyone is so casual about it, but unfortunately, the players that are being casual
are the same players who always controlled the message before. Until late last year, I don't think the internet grassroots had the chops to force them to deal with these issues - now, we do. And the landscape will never be the same. I don't think the usual players have fully gotten the memo yet.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:55 PM
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31. The faster we keep turning off the TVs -- the faster they'll get the message ---
Who is the name of gawd is watching this garbage on TV --- ???


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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:49 PM
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32. Now, by TV do you mean the thing I watch DVDs on?
Are you saying that thing can actually be connected to some outside feed? I'm doubting the veracity of what you say but maybe............

In other words, I've been off the teat since the late nineties and I don't have any desire to re-latch.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:11 PM
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33. No . . . I mean the garbage being broadcast as "news" . . . and political opinion . . .
Congratulations on disconnecting --- !!!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:19 AM
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7. In case you missed it, a portion of them are up now.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:23 AM
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8. here is a partial transcript From Ron....
very interesting. Who could have predicted it was dick? :sarcasm:


http://www.ronsuskind.com/thewayoftheworld/transcripts/

A note to readers

I've decided to post a partial transcript of one of a number of taped conversations in which Rob Richer and I discussed, on the record, the Habbush letter. We discussed it many times through the spring of 2008.

Rob Richer received a copy of The Way of the World on Monday night, August 4, the day before publication. On Tuesday, he said he had read key portions of the book and was comfortable with what they contained. Later that day, though, he issued the following the statement:

"I never received direction from George Tenet or anyone else in my chain of command to fabricate a document from Habbash as outlined in Mr Suskind's book."

The conversation below took place in June 2008. As in all of our conversations, it shows Rob pressing to get at truth and embrace probity.

This posting is contrary to my practice across 25 years as a journalist. But the issues, in this matter, are simply too important to stand as discredited in any way.

--Ron Suskind


Interview Transcript

. . . Ron Suskind: I know we've talked through these things eight ways to Sunday, and hour after hour, but here's what I want you to ask yourself. Prior to me jogging your memory, okay--forget Habbush part one, okay.

Rob Richer: Okay.

Ron: You know, the prewar stuff, cause there's zillions of people in on that part. And there's people in on the second part, too. But here's my question to you: before I, as I said, before I jog your memory on this stuff, what do you--and I think I have a good idea, cause I've asked you this seven different ways, but I just want to make absolutely sure--what do you remember? If I just grabbed you on the street and said what do you remember of the second part, okay--with the letter and all the rest--what would be the high marks in terms of what you--memory's the best editor I think's a line from Tennyson--

Rob: Exactly.

Ron: What were the parts that you remember most vividly?

Rob: You're talking about Habbush himself, correct?

Ron: No, I'm talking about the second part, with the letter being passed from--through George and down the ranks. Cause at one point--and I know we have recollections at the top and that's fine--you have recollections, not from me but from your own memory on that--

Rob: Let me tell you what I know, just so before you color any of it. Is that when you first asked me about it I remember just really telling you that it was a non-event, and if you were to ask me today I would tell you it was a non-event. It came down from the seventh floor. It was part of--as I remember it, it wasn't so much to influence America--that's illegal--but it was kinda like a covert, a way to influence Iraqis.

. . .

Rob: To characterize it right, I would say, right: it came to us, George had a raised eyebrow, and basically we passed it on--it was to--and passed this on into the organization. You know, it was: 'Okay, we gotta do this, but make it go away.' To be honest with you, I don't want to make it sound--I for sure don't want to portray this as George jumping: 'Okay, this has gotta happen.' As I remember it--and, again, it's still vague, so I'll be very straight with you on this--is it wasn't that important. It was: 'This is unbelievable. This is just like all the other garbage we get about . . . I mean Mohammad Atta and links to al Qaeda. 'Rob,' you know, 'do something with this.' I think it was more like that than: 'Get this done.'

Ron: Do something with this, right. Get this, this is like--

Rob: It died a natural death as you know.

Ron: 'This thing stinks, take it.'

Rob: Yeah, kinda like that, yeah. But, you know, we got so much garbage that first couple—that year.

Ron: Were there other things like this where we were creating product?

Rob: You know, I don't remember that.

. . .

Ron: The intent--the basic raison d'etre of this product is to get, is to create, here's a letter with what's in it. Okay, here's what we want on the letter, we want it to be released as essentially a representation of something Habbush says. That's all it says, that's the one paragraph. And then you pass it to whomever to do it. To get it done.

Rob: It probably passed through five or six people. George probably showed it to me, but then passed it probably to Jim Pavitt, the DDO, who then passed it down to his chief of staff who passed it to me. Cause that's how--you know, so I saw the original. I got a copy of it. But it was, there probably was--

Ron: Right. You saw the original with the White House stationery, but you didn't--down the ranks, then it creates other paper.

Rob: Yeah, no, exactly. But I couldn't tell you--again: I remember it happening, I remember a terrible brief kinda joking dialogue about it, but that was it.

. . .

Ron: Now this is from the Vice President's Office is how you remembered it--not from the president?

Rob: No, no, no. What I remember is George saying, 'we got this from'--basically, from what George said was 'downtown.'

Ron: Which is the White House?

Rob: Yes. But he did not--in my memory--never said president, vice president, or NSC. Okay? But now--he may have hinted--just by the way he said it, it would have--cause almost all that stuff came from one place only: Scooter Libby and the shop around the vice president.

Ron: Yeah, right.

Rob: But he didn't say that specifically. I would naturally--I would probably stand on my, basically, my reputation and say it came from the vice president.

Ron: Right, I'm with you, I'm with you. But there wasn't anything in the writing that you remember saying the vice president.

Rob: Nope.

Ron: It just had the White House stationery.

Rob: Exactly right.

Ron: That's fine, White House stationery's fine. Everything's from there. You know, that's the center point. But not OVP's Office. It's just the White House. It comes from the White House. That's plain and simple.

Rob: And you know, if you've ever seen the vice president's stationery, it's on the White House letterhead. It may have said OVP. I don't remember that, so I don't want to mislead you. . . .
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:33 AM
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12. key line: "it would have--cause almost all that stuff came from one place only: Scooter Libby"
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:13 PM
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21. and the OSP
Feith's shop of horrors. I wonder if the OSP is mentioned in Ron's book?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:28 AM
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9. The new Bunker Hill..
I was wondering when the good guys at the CIA were going to declar war on Bushco. This is it, folks.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:40 AM
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15. WHERE IS THE LETTER? WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT EXAMINED?
WHY DON'T THE WHORES IN THE MEDIA ASK TO SEE IT AND PUBLISH IT?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:50 PM
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27. Embedded in your screaming missive (and why wouldn't we all scream),
is your answer. The media whores are the same as they ever were.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:42 AM
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17. K&R
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:43 AM
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18. oops -- double post
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 11:43 AM by DeepModem Mom
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:42 PM
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23. K&R, keep kickin'
my Dog, what will it take?
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Franc_Lee Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:46 PM
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25. 60 Minutes has to get on board on this with all the Obama-McBush hype saturating airwaves...
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 01:32 PM
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28. Recommended
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:34 PM
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30. Here's one of those transcripts
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 02:35 PM by lumberjack_jeff
http://www.ronsuskind.com/thewayoftheworld/transcripts/

Ron: The intent--the basic raison d'etre of this product is to get, is to create, here's a letter with what's in it. Okay, here's what we want on the letter, we want it to be released as essentially a representation of something Habbush says. That's all it says, that's the one paragraph. And then you pass it to whomever to do it. To get it done.

Rob: It probably passed through five or six people. George probably showed it to me, but then passed it probably to Jim Pavitt, the DDO, who then passed it down to his chief of staff who passed it to me. Cause that's how--you know, so I saw the original. I got a copy of it. But it was, there probably was--

Ron: Right. You saw the original with the White House stationery, but you didn't--down the ranks, then it creates other paper.

Rob: Yeah, no, exactly. But I couldn't tell you--again: I remember it happening, I remember a terrible brief kinda joking dialogue about it, but that was it.

. . .

Ron: Now this is from the Vice President's Office is how you remembered it--not from the president?

Rob: No, no, no. What I remember is George saying, 'we got this from'--basically, from what George said was 'downtown.'

Ron: Which is the White House?

Rob: Yes. But he did not--in my memory--never said president, vice president, or NSC. Okay? But now--he may have hinted--just by the way he said it, it would have--cause almost all that stuff came from one place only: Scooter Libby and the shop around the vice president.

Ron: Yeah, right.


What Rob Richer is saying is that he originally saw the essential points which went into the Iraq letter on White House letterhead.

Edited to add: sorry for the dupe Leftchick.
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