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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:51 PM
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Edwards's Ex-Lover Rejects Idea Of DNA Test
Source: Washington Post

Rielle Hunter, the former presidential campaign aide who had an affair with John Edwards, said yesterday that she will not pursue DNA testing to establish the paternity of her 5-month-old daughter, despite the former senator's offer to participate in such a test.

In a statement provided to The Washington Post, Hunter said through her attorney that she will not be party to such a test "now or in the future."

The attorney, Robert Gordon, called Hunter a "private" person who is "not running for public office" and would not comment further.

"She wishes to maintain her privacy and her daughter's privacy," he said in the statement. "Furthermore, Rielle will not participate in DNA testing or any other invasion of her or her daughter's privacy now or in the future."



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/09/AR2008080901298.html?nav=hcmodule
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:54 PM
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1. How much money did she get paid?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:58 PM
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3. Give it a rest.
Go back to your Hillary threads.

Geez, we know where you stand.

This response was unnecessary.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:05 PM
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7. why was this response unnecessary? Of course she does not want a paternity test
Of course she is keeping it quiet. That was her part of the deal.

"Geez, we know where you stand." Here is where I stand: I said nothing when the rumors flew...giving Edwards the benifit of the doubt. I trusted him when he called them liars. I felt for them because Elizabeth Edwards was sick and those nasty tabloid lies were over the top.

And then, we find out that Edwards lied (and I believe continues to lie, based on his continued behavior).

The idea that the girlfirend was paid to cover for him is not off base.

If you have nothing better to contribute than to attack me becasue I was a Hillary Clinton supporter--perhaps you need to leave your mom's basement for awhile.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:08 PM
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10. Mom's long gone, and your posts are predictable.
That's the way it is.

Your "sympathy" for the Edwards' is duly noted.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:24 PM
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12. As are yours
And I have no sympathy for John Edwards. He made his bed. I do have sympathy for Elizabeth.

And, frankly, I am not certain if you the "Duly noter." I picture you now with a giant piece of paper on your basement wall with a red marker. "Not sympathetic enough," "too sympathetic" "Clinton supporter."
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:08 AM
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40. Did it EVER cross your mind that she doesn't want the tests
because she knows that Edwards isn't the father?

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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:59 PM
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51. Paternity test would establish father, but the father would then have rights.
Many single women choose to leave the father "unnamed" on the birth certificate so that there are not custody battles, etc.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:41 PM
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52. and after having lost his son
do you think he would disown this child if he thought it was his child?

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:08 AM
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53. Just wondering
if the child 15 years from now decides she wants her back child support from her father, could she then demand a paternity test, and collect?

Could she sue her mother for not having a test done and therefore denying her her child support?

Could a man demand a paternity test if he thought he might be the father?

Quite a complicated issue because three different people's rights are concerned.

Any lawyers out there tonight?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #7
49. please be clear that my words to you were not based on your support for Hillary
but on your knucklehead opinion expressed in this thread alone.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 01:20 AM
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56. I've been an Edwards supporter for two election cycles
And I also agree...I think she's being paid off. So very, very sad.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:18 PM
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18. Deleted message
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:24 PM
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36. ouch
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:49 AM
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37. You sound overly stressed. Why is that?
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 04:50 AM by aquart
What, precisely, are you afraid of? As for attacking someone for having been a Hillary supporter, well, I do not like that.

But we do have experience with betrayed wives and cheating husbands. Still, if you're agin' the discussion, you're agin' it. It's good to know that Bill's behavior never crossed your lips or keyboard during the primaries.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
48. it's her choice
or do you like telling women what to do? :eyes:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:58 PM
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2. Good for her.
There is more to life than being the center of a media frenzy.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:59 PM
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4. No Shit?
As soon as I heard Hedge Fund Johnny's overly-emphatic desires for a paternity test, I figured that this would happen in the next few days.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:00 PM
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5. I imagine this is part of an agreement. He claims to want DNA testing knowing she'll refuse.
Sorry...I'm not buying it. I'm not buying that he's not the father, I'm not buying that his friends just happened to funnel money to her without knowing full well it was something he would want. I'm sure he made sure he had 'plausible deniability.

She's surely being well compensated to play along with this game. Although I also think she's secretly been the source for the National Enquirer.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:06 PM
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8. I thought the same thing.
This whole story is messed up all the way around.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. How much did you get paid?
That's about as relevant as your full of shit post.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:56 AM
Response to Reply #9
39. I love really literate disputation.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:31 PM
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13. In my best Gomer Pyle voice...
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE

Except in this case, you could see this coming a mile away.
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FormerConservative Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #5
46. ding ding ding. we have a winner
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:04 PM
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6. So she wants the rumors and innuendo of an "Edwards love-child" to continue?
The tests aren't about proving who the father is, but rather who the father isn't in this case.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:46 AM
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44. Exactly. I smell a book deal :(
She has quite a past according to MoDo's column. She inspired a book about a party girl in NYC a few years ago. This would make her a very wealthy woman.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:15 PM
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11. Why does Edwards have to "apologize" and not her? She's equal at blame,
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 07:16 PM by poli speak
and I bet this was not any protracted relationship, to boot. that's what i think. i don't understand why he's the only one taking the heat here.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:45 PM
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14. Yeah. I wonder about that too. I think she is in cahoots with someone and it isn't Edwards.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #11
21. Depends on who you're apologizing to --
I think because he was a Democratic candidate that he owes those who supported him

an apology ---

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 04:53 AM
Response to Reply #11
38. Excuse me? She's not married and she's not running for office.
She may eventually have to apologize to the kid. She doesn't have to apologize to anybody else and that includes Elizabeth.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:10 AM
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54. Just my opinion of course, but
you shouldn't have sex with married people.

Of course the married person's even more wrong, but so is the one having sex with someone she/he knows is married.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 01:22 AM
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57. Elizabeth is the FIRST person that tramp should apologize to. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:16 AM
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58. Why? Did she promise her something?
The woman is free. John Edwards isn't. He is bound by oath. He broke the oath. What's next is entirely up to Elizabeth. What's between two people is between two and not three.

It's so simple to view the world in black and white. You miss really great sunsets, though.
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Faith No More Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:53 PM
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15. Could be
the child of another public figure that doesn't want to be revealed.
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LiveLiberally Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 07:59 PM
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16. If the goal was to evade verification that Edwards is the father....
I doubt this turn of events will achieve that. Just the opposite. Irrespective of whether he is or isn't OR Hunter's rationale for refusing DNA testing, public opinion will now assume the worst. Particularly in light of the fact that although Edwards' aide, Andrew Young, claimed paternity before she was born, there was no father listed on the birth certificate.

Such a damn shame. For everyone.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:26 PM
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23. What's going to be worse if this becomes a Part-2'er . . .
I'm hoping that Edwards perhaps got concerned the night he was "called to the meeting"

with these people --- and maybe then realized he had to go public.


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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:09 PM
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35. Freddie's the father...
I predict Frederick von Anhalt will announce on Monday that he is the father. And Zsa Zsa bought her the house in Beverly Hills. Shortly thereafter, he will again be found nude in Zsa Zsa's Corniche on Bel-Air Road after a band of pretty young things carjacked him and took his clothes as well as his wallet. Zsa Zsa will of course say nothing. Again. Which is what Elizabeth Edwards should have said. Nothing.

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:01 PM
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17. Well, that tells all
The baby is his.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:23 PM
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20. Or she doesn't want a negative test because it ruins a book deal.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:22 PM
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19. Edwards explained that he was "called to a meeting" with these people . . .
the night he was at the hotel.

THEY would have known that the hotel was overrun with reporters/photographers ---

MAYBE Edwards felt he had to tell the truth after the meeting --- perhaps it was

an attempt to blackmail him into giving them more money to keep quiet?

Maybe they've been trying to suggest this is his child --- and maybe it's not????


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artfan Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:25 PM
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22. This is stupid
If either party wishes a test it should be done. If both say not test than there should not be a test. As for the 'moral' issues they are both in the wrong, It is not like she did not know he was married. I feel great sympathy for the innocent in this matter his wife and children. It can not be easy having the world watching and passing judgement on one's life.

This whole situation is sad and unfortunate for all.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:31 PM
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24. The child deserves to know
She ought to agree to the test for the child's sake.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:34 PM
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25. There's no indication that the mother has any doubt about who the father is
It's the media that thinks a test needs to be done - and it's none of their business.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:48 PM
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26. That may be so
Still, the child will probably be dogged by gossip, rumor and innuendo as she gets older, regardless of what the mother tells her.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:54 PM
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27. People will forget.
John Edwards isn't president. He isn't even a presidential nominee. He doesn't loom so large in the public consciousness that years from now this scandal will affect the child.

In any case, I also think Hunter herself knows the truth and will tell her daughter when she sees fit. There's no reason for the rest of us to be involved.

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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:18 PM
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30. agreed
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:55 PM
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28. An excellent point. The kid deserves to know who its father is. n/t
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:19 PM
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31. What makes you think the mom doesn't know and won't tell her?
This is not our business.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:08 PM
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33. What makes you think she will?
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 10:11 PM by Psephos
Neither of us know what she will do, but we do know that major cash has already been involved and that Edwards has already proven that what he says to the public cannot be trusted. He lied serially about this for a long time with no evident "tells." He made his special relationship with his wife a centerpiece of his campaign, and these admissions reveal that Edwards was lying through his teeth even as he was appearing with his wife to affirm their devotion to each other.

If you believe the current retail version of this story then we do not share a common set of critical thinking standards. I see a lot of incentive for a behind-the-scenes deal with Hunter that would let Edwards "welcome" a paternity test knowing it won't happen. I see almost no incentive for Hunter to not get a test, given the claims upon Edwards' wealth and support the child legally deserves should paternity be established. Follow the money, in other words.

I have little further interest in this matter, but I do agree with Daleo's point that the child deserves to know who its father is. How that would be accomplished is not my concern. The mother has already shown that she doesn't much care how her actions affect other innocent parties (specifically Edwards' wife and family).

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:12 AM
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55. Not just for the child's sake
But also for the child's support.

The child has the right to child support from her father.

Does the mother have the right to give away the child's right to support? Child support is for the child, not the mother after all.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:58 PM
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29. She put her wish to be a "private person" in jeopardy
when she made the choice to sleep with a very public, very married person......one who was running for President. You play with the big married boys, you better be prepared to pay the price.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:32 PM
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34. Or how about being interviewed on TV talk shows...
and being the subject of two pop novels.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:21 PM
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32. Is there something wrong with the "hide" feature tonight? I could swear I disappeared this thread.nt
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:08 AM
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41. Of course she did
And Edwards knew that she would refuse when he offered to take the test. What a weasel.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:26 AM
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42. Safe To Say We Won't Have An Anti-Media Consolidation Crusader In The Obama Administration
The press has done its job.

How disappointing, though, that Edwards has done such a tremendous job at assisting his political downfall by handling this all wrong - when we need him so much.
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Diresu Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:12 AM
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43. Edwards is garbage wrapped in skin
Why doesn't he just admit it? Everybody knows it's his baby and she's being paid off.

I feel for that campaign worker who took the fall for this baby. But I guess he's living in a mansion now too. Payolla all around.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:27 PM
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45. Way to keep the issue out front....
and center. This will ensure speculation right through the Democratic Convention and probably through the election. :(. Sure smells like a wink-wink, nod-nod setup.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:48 PM
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47. Well sounds like she already knows who the father is
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:48 PM
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50. It's none of anyone's business who that kid's father is
you are welcome to ask Edwards and perhaps he is obligated to answer, but as for the child and mother, they owe you NO EXPLANATION WHATSOEVER (meaning those that seem to think she does owe them something).

:rant:
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sentelle Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:17 AM
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59. i dont understand this all.
Fact, john edwards stepped out on his wife.

Fact, this woman now has a child out of wedlock.

Who is it that is claiming that its edwards' baby, the woman, or the media?

So far I have not heard her say its edwards's baby. Just the media. This is the same media that conflates adultery as a reason to murder. (ie: he had an affair, he must have killed his wife, for example)

Unless she comes out and says Edwards is the father, and/or DNA testing is done, there is no story here, just an attack to make Edwards dirty.
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