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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:59 AM Original message |
GAO: Most U.S. Corps. Don't Pay Income Tax |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. "Smirk." - Republicon Cabal O' Cronies |
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Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
2. We should demand from congress that the names be released! |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
89. Congress are big corporations' hired guns. |
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mediaman007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
3. But they advertise in the media, the sponsor stadiums and |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. You're such a comedian! |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Taxing Corporations will Cost Jobs! |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. Heh. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Lol! |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. I heard a line yesterday that describes the situation: |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. So we are individuals and Corporations are just one of us |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
75. mostly they donate to the Republican party see www.opensecrets.org |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. Corporations dominate and control both parties. An example is BO's considering a corporate tax cut. |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
38. And we, official chumps, keep electing the same politicians over and over |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
64. You are correct. I read recently that there is less than a 10% turnover |
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 05:26 AM Response to Reply #64 |
107. I don't think any state has term limits on U.S. Reps and Senators. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 06:20 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. You are right. The limits are only on state legislators, and only |
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Dogtown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
6. K&R n/t |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
7. corporations pay taxes on net profit, individuals pay taxes on income AND expenses |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. according to mcsame, we need to LOWER corporate taxes... what, to minus zero? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
9. Robber barons and their tax loopholes. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
44. And their mercenary armies that protect their interests as they exploit |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
113. Granted to them by the Congress of the United States. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
10. A bit of context: Most corporations are shells, paper entities without income |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That is very true but let's not forget the changes of the last 30 years either |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Excellent explanation. |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. These days when big companies like Toyota come looking cities give away the store for |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. There's another way to say the same as the OP |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
73. Yes, that's the best way of measuring this -- corporate tax as a share of federal revenue |
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 05:29 AM Response to Reply #42 |
108. And has that downward trend in corp tax percentage rate benefited local communities? |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. The only ones who have benefitted is the Country Club set (nt) |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
43. You are correct. nt |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
58. Disgustingly true. |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
11. Simple solution -- revoke their corporate charter. (nt) |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. They spend $100 and write a new one under a new name. Not so simple. (nt) |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Okay. Revoke their PERSONHOOD. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. That's my view as well |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. As Randi Rhodes has said more than once, |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. We need to campaign on this issue as heavily or MORE than Roe v. Wade for next SCOTUS judge! |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. Totally agree. n/t |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
80. Amen, amen, amen! n/t |
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Oldtimeralso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
106. Has anybody read the decision in |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
14. If the Adam Smith Institute is called a free-market think-tank (an oxymoron, if ever there was one) |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Perhaps most "think-tanks" should more aptly be called "propaganda-mills". (nt) |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. They certainly are, aren't they? |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
15. America is being carried, litterally, upon the backs of the working class. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. As it has always been. (nt) |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
81. For a small period of time |
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Gen. Jack D. Ripper (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. A visual aid |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Where did you get that? It's great! |
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NBachers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
19. How's Wesley Snipes feel about this? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
21. it's not about the economy -- it's about the corporation. |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
23. Outrageous. |
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aka-chmeee (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
24. Nice presentation on Headline News this morning.... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
25. Taxes are for we the little people. |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
27. excellent article here on the "Fictitious Economy" |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
29. They must have money to create ads of slow motion happy families |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
30. Yeah, but they're spending all that money on lobbyists and congresspersons |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
31. Leona Helmsley may have been the Queen of Mean, but |
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ut oh (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
33. Oh Gee, what a surprize....... |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
34. Wow. This is AWESOME. I mean, it's terrible, but awesome to have this hard data from the GAO no less |
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DirtyDawg (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
35. One of the more absurd, but effectivly insidious... |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
36. Yet, they gripe about America's "high corporate tax rate", which few of them |
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raebrek (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
39. I am most interested in |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
40. Here's the real rub: Wealthy people persuaded Congress |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
45. K & R ... |
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ColonelTom (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
46. B-B-but... U.S. corporations pay plenty of taxes! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
47. how patriotic of Corporate America |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
76. Corporations have no loyalty to any country |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. they sure love to advertise as being patriotic |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yet another reason to hate the corps. nt |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
49. How much federal tax does DU pay? |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
51. That's why Halliburton was moved to Dubai |
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montanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
55. WHAT???!!? Say it ain't so!! |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
56. uh, no shit |
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asksam (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
57. A little misleading, I think.... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. There are lots of loopholes to turning profit into breaking even and therefore |
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asksam (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Agreed.... |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
99. It rather depends on many details. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
59. The real Welfare Queens |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. A dream of mine would be to make the Chamber of Commerce types in this country stroke out. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
65. NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION!! |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
66. The Republican rationale... |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
67. ON PAPER the USA has one of the highest corporate tax rates, however, |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
70. Most corporations retain no profits, therefore, no taxes. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Point of information -- you probably have a Sub-S corporation |
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Karl_Bonner_1982 (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
71. Closing the loopholes would generate a lot of revenue |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
72. If owners work for the company, they avoid taxes through bonuses |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
77. you ought to send this to the networks and tell them this is why everybody is turning to the net |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #77 |
102. Send the report to them. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
78. THIS needs to be shouted from the mountaintops every time |
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NM Independent (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
79. Here's what I don't get... |
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asksam (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Excuse me... |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
83. we say it often, but if there were any repubs left on the fencE |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. I just tried to click through to the cafepress store in your sig |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #93 |
103. I've got a design for about every situation that involves this disgusting cryptic mess that W has |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. it's your site that's blocked |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. wow.... |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
84. K & R |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
85. In other news: Tennis balls round, sun rises in East, and Dick Cheney eats live babies. n/t |
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Doug.Goodall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
86. During the RayGun years we were told that a rising tide lifted all boats |
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YankeyMCC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
88. Meanwhile McSame is out there |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
90. and my little brother, who doesn't earn enough to keep his fridge half full, |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
91. This can't be a 'surprise' to anyone?! |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
92. Ah, the ever-present stink of |
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bronxiteforever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
94. "Taxes we don't pay no stinking taxes!" say the Corporate Thieves |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
95. funny......they keep wanting me to pay mine |
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Robert Oak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
96. More Details here |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
97. DUH |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
98. Their profits are hiding in Liechtenstein bank. |
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ChromeFoundry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
100. Should I even be suprised? n/t |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
101. "could be because of operating losses and tax credits" |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
110. Companies Don't Stay In Business Long With Operating Losses |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
112. How about an Alternative Minimum Tax for Corp based on CEO |
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