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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:46 PM
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McCain: We are all Georgians now
Source: AFP

YORK, Pennsylvania (AFP) — Republican White House hopeful John McCain Tuesday stepped up a fusillade against Russian "aggression" and declared that today, "we are all Georgians."

Addressing voters in Pennsylvania, McCain said he had spoken by telephone earlier with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who he said wanted to thank the American people for their support.

"I told him that I know I speak for every American when I say to him, today, we are all Georgians," said the Republican, a hardliner against Russia who wants the mighty nation expelled from the Group of Eight club.

...

"It is past time for the Russian government to immediately sign and implement a ceasefire," Obama, who is on vacation in Hawaii, said in his latest statement on the crisis.

"Russia must halt its violation of Georgian airspace and withdraw its ground forces from Georgia, with international monitors to verify that these obligations are met," the Illinois senator said.

Read more: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ikiswcdUvM9iosFqywY7Ea3BD82Q
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:48 PM
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1. John McCain speaks...for me?
NOW who's acting presumptuous?


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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:49 PM
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29. He doesn't speak for me either
it's certainly not my hand up his arse pulling the strings. :puke:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:26 AM
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52. mccain doesn't even speak for mccain n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:49 PM
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2. He does know that this Georgia isn't in the US, doesn't he?
You never know with him. :shrug:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:33 PM
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18. Good question, giggle......nt
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:55 PM
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59. (pssst)...don't tell him, cuz, well...you know - but he thinks Sherman is burning
Atlanta.

Just humor him.

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:05 PM
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61. Don't tell Cindy either
I understand she developed carpal tunnel surfing the internet trying to find where in Georgia all this was happening.

:rofl:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:50 PM
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3. What an idiot
You know who Putin's rooting for in the fall elections....

The checker players.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:08 PM
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42. But you can smell the lust to bring the cold war back, can't you?
I'm surprised none of the media weasels has thought to compare Putin to Stalin yet. Hitler we got, Mussolini, Imperial Japan, but not Stalin.

Oooooops, now I let the cat out of the bag.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:53 PM
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4. To McCain, this tragedy is a perfect opportunity to play politics.
SHAMEFUL!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:53 PM
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5. Hey John McCain, which US city are you willing to sacrifice
when Russia shocks and awes US??

You fucking war mongering IDIOT!!!!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:54 PM
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6. Why shut my mouth! I was always told I lived in North Carolina.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:56 PM
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7. That Dumbass doesn't speak for me!!
Last time I checked, he was still a Senator, not President.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:56 PM
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8. No, I'm not.
I'm not an Iraqi, or a Turk or an Irani or a Brit fot that matter. You don't even speak for your own campaign from what I hear, so stuff it you senile old coot.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:02 PM
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9. I'll never be able to enjoy "Georgia On My Mind" again.
:cry:
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:03 PM
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45. How about "Back In The USSR (Whether You Like It Or Not Mix)"
Well, the Ukraine girls really knock me out,
They leave the West behind,
And the Moscow girls make me sing and shout (in the Lubyanka)
You know that Georgia's always on my m-m-m-m-m-my mind...
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:03 PM
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10. If Obama said this the repukes would be screaming "treason! he's from another country!"
What an overly dramatic asshat.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:05 PM
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11. Or else they'd be pointing out that Stalin was a Georgian...
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:05 PM
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12. "Ich bin ein Georgian"
Sounds like a declaration of war against Russia (or McCain knows it as the 'Sov-yet Union').
Jeez, what's next out of McCrazy's mouth - let's invade Canada?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:11 PM
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13. 'Fraid not McSame. And have you ever had an original thought or phrase of your own?
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:14 PM
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14. Yes! Bring back the Cold War!
Thank you Bush and McCain for bringing back the red menace.
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1_cali_dem Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:03 AM
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47. McInsane
Frankly He Scares the living Hell Out Of ME:scared:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:17 PM
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15. That worthless butt wad need s to speak for himself
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jjr5 Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:21 PM
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16. What?
I'm not Georgian!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:26 PM
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17. With Wikipedia-gate still fresh, tell me JSM III didn't say that!
And pulling from Le Monde to boot ! Twisting the sentiments around. Bereft of nuance. Grabbing the vocab. Another Chucklenuts, my friends.

>>
Joking aside, I pushed for impeachment hearings partly in order to quell the warmongers. We don't want Apprentice President Bomb Bomb McCain out there flapping his jaws for us! Let's keep those fools busy to prevent them doing any further damage. Impeachment hearings 24/7.

Obama gave me a lot of hope with his nuanced statement about the Georgia/Russia battles. It reminded me of days of yore, when the US was actually called upon to mediate and had standing in international negotiations. I look forward to the Obama administration rebuilding cordial international relations that are so necessary in the 21st Century, with complex ecological clean-up urgently required. We need careful cooperation over the long term rather than explosive force and chaotic dominance.

We need the warmongers to step back and figure out how to get on board with the timeline for withdrawing US troops from Iraq. There is a lot of planning required. I would expect any self-respecting pro-invasion official to be busy figuring out how to clean things up on the way out. Lots of planning regarding what kind of U.S. shell remains.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:42 PM
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19. So is it his intention to drag us into yet another war? nt
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:56 PM
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30. Cheney already did
by way of keeping 20,000 Blackwater troops in Azerbaijan stirring the pot. That provocation has been going on since the start of the Iraq invasion and has been building up ever since. That "war" was nothing more or less than a sweet li'l love-note directly addressed to the Dark Lord hisself. Cheneyburton's little private militia doesn't look quite as butch and badass any more, which is making McKook look more and more like The Mouth That Roared. Cheney's queen is in check and his knights are shitting up their backs. Take on Russia, McKook? Meh, not so much, not so fast.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:48 PM
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20. Wtf ever, go eat your peaches and cottage cheese
and play GI Joe with the other kids in the home, you crazy ancient dwarf. :eyes:
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:49 PM
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21. Sorry, if I'm forced to choose sides in this, then I'm a Russian - n/t
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:04 PM
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22. McOilpuppet doing what his patrons require of him.
What a pathetic and sorry figure McCain is ...
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:06 PM
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23. nope were still trouble making Americans whos gov. is out of control.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:10 PM
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24. fuck that
I was born in Alabama, how damned presumptious of him to lump me in with a bunch of *gasp* Georgians! :grr:




:rofl:
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:10 PM
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46. Outraged South Carolina native agrees.
:hi:

Imagine if this were during McCain's early manhood, when everyone had to take sides in the Thirty Years War (1618-48).

Would he be saying "Today we are all Catholics" or "Today we are all Protestants?"
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:15 PM
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25. Is Tbilisi as pretty as Savannah?
'Cause that's pretty much the only place in either Georgia of which I currently want to be a part.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:19 PM
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26. I've never stepped foot outside of Hartsfield-Jackson Airport.
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 03:30 PM by michele77
Edited for a pain induced spelling error.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:23 PM
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27. Hey ASSHAT
You do NOT speak for me, and how dare you presume to think you have that right.

Stuff it, WarBoy.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:33 PM
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28. we are all Georgians? Are the Russians bombing Atlanta?
Obama was right; the right wing really does revel in its ignorance. Sorry McCain, mark me down as a Russian.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:56 PM
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31. oh no......atlanta, georgia has fallen!......



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SpookyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:58 PM
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32. This is all the Repukes have,
and they are going to use it. That worries me, because a lot of Americans buy this. The only "strength" they can play to, that people tend to think the Demo's don't have, is war and protection.

Beat the drums, get people riled up, and we could lose. That is the October Surprise I'm worried about. Well, one of them...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:10 PM
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33. Fuck all that noise, Johnny Boy
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:13 PM
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34. Go Bulldogs!!! /NT
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:17 PM
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35. Holy shit - while we were all worried that George was going to invade
Iran, he arranged a war with Russia over Georgia instead!
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:17 PM
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36. Fuck McCain AND Obama. They're BOTH wrong.
Georgia attacked Sout Ossetia, not the other way around.

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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:23 PM
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37. Then does that make us all Iraqis ...
vis-a-vis invasion by a foreign superpower? No, wait ...
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:57 PM
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38. I'm an American. grandpa can go be a Georgian if he wants....
That old fool is more embarrassing by the minute.

Weren't they just going crazy cause Senator Obama used the phrase "citizen of the world" (along with citizen of the United States)???

Now this crazy old geezer is a Georgian. Go figure. What an ass hat.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 05:08 PM
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39. Will someone please revoke his speaking license? There should be a mandatory test or something n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 05:32 PM
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40. Or all we all Ossetians?
The moran doesn't realize it's not that simple. I guess he got that line from that person high up in his campaign who is a lobbyist for Georgia.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 06:40 PM
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41. What a presumptuous asshat....n/t
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:12 PM
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43. "We are all Georgians" because we too launched an unprovoked attack
and invaded for no reason, slaughtering men, women & kids?
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:59 PM
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44. Thank you!
:applause:
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:08 PM
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58. Well said. n/t
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DeltaLitProf Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:21 AM
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48. Screw that.
I don't think I'd sucker punch South Ossetia, killing over 1,000 Russians and then react with indignation if Russia hits me back.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:38 AM
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49. Does this guy have any sense of irony at all?
Strike that. Does he have any SENSE at all?
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:18 AM
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50. Very dangerous talk there...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:41 AM
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51. He's probably been leaning too much on Miss Teen South Carolina
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 08:53 AM
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53. Did Randy Scheunermann tell him to say that?
While Aide Advised McCain, His Firm Lobbied for Georgia
Campaign Dismisses Timing of Phone Call, Contract

Sen. John McCain's top foreign policy adviser prepped his boss for an April 17 phone call with the president of Georgia and then helped the presumptive Republican presidential nominee prepare a strong statement of support for the fledgling republic.

The day of the call, a lobbying firm partly owned by the adviser, Randy Scheunemann, signed a $200,000 contract to continue providing strategic advice to the Georgian government in Washington.

The McCain campaign said Georgia's lobbying contract with Orion Strategies had no bearing on the candidate's decision to speak with President Mikheil Saakashvili and did not influence his statement. "The Embassy of Georgia requested the call," said campaign spokesman Brian Rogers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/12/AR2008081202932.html

Anything that McCain says about the Georgia situation is instantly tainted by his lobbyist ties.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:46 AM
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67. You can't be a war president if there's no war...
Go to hell McCain, don't bring it here.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:08 AM
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54. We are all individuals
We are all individuals

teehee
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:50 AM
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55. Fuck that - McCain needs to shut his trap
before he starts WW3.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:57 AM
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56. Ooooh! Ooooooh! Oooooooh!!!
When will the media being talking 24/7 about McCain's arrogance and presumption??

Did I miss something? Was he already elected Pretzledent?

What shear audacity.

He seems to be acting rather uppity, don't ya' think?

I'm sure the MSM will be all over this angle of the story. :sarcasm:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:58 AM
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57. If Obama had said a thing like "we are all Georgians"
The M$M would be 24/7 on how unpatriotic that was. What, we're Georgians not Americans! Does he wear a Georgian flag pin? How dare he equate Amurka with just one state?

:rofl:
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:58 PM
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60. How inspirational. I'm guessing that was a lame attempt at pathos.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:45 PM
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62. Um, no, McSame
We are all AMERICANS, not Georgians.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 02:33 AM
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63. umm - NO WE'RE NOT YOU FUCKING REPUKE WAR MONGER!!!
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 02:34 AM by TankLV
you don't speak for me - NO repuke will ever speak for me - never have, never will - I even hated bush* MORE immediately after 911!!!!

No - don't you fucking REPUKES DARE assume to "speak for "me"!!!

and they may yet snatch victory in November and we will REALLY be screwed...
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:03 AM
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64. Maybe all of us should be Iraqis? How about that?
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:17 AM
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65. Nope. I wanna be Venezuelan. n/t
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xyouth Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:21 AM
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66. Russia should release publicly, McCain's Vietnam Files.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:42 PM
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68. Shut up, McCain, you don't speak for me.
There is so much more to this conflict that the stupid bullshit being tossed out there by the media and people like McCain trying to use this to score political points. Do us all a favor McCain and shut the fuck up.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 05:39 PM
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69. You fucking asshole.
Stop waving your dick around in some pathetic attempt to increase your cred'.
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