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Satyagrahi Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:15 PM
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US military trained Georgian commandos
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 03:21 PM by Satyagrahi
Source: Financial Times

The US military provided combat training to 80 Georgian special forces commandos only months prior to Georgia’s army assault in South Ossetia in August.

The revelation, based on recruitment documents and interviews with US military trainers obtained by the Financial Times, could add fuel to accusations by Vlad­imir Putin, Russian prime minister, last month that the US had “orchestrated” the war in the Georgian enclave.

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The contractors – MPRI and American Systems, both based in Virginia – recruited a 15-man team of former special forces soldiers to train the Georgians at the Vashlijvari special forces base on the outskirts of Tbilisi, part of a programme run by the US defence department.

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While the programme is not classified, there is a lack of transparency surrounding it, though US military officials said the lack of publicity was not part of an effort to keep the programme secret. Other US military training programmes in Georgia have their own websites and photo galleries.

Read more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bdffd9a6-7b71-11dd-b839-000077b07658.html



Alternative link:
http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7315&Itemid=130

Imagine that you are Assistant Secretary for European Affairs and you are told, perhaps by these military trainers, that your ally is about to start a war with Russia.

What do you do?

Do you inform the Vice President (who happens to be in charge because the President is in Beijing)? Somebody should ask Dan Fried (who allegedly told the Russians that "everything was fine" and later stopped answering the phone).

What did the Vice President know and when did he know it?

Did he talk to Saakashvili? Did he try to stop the attack?

We don't know.

What we do know is that he tried to send more arms to Georgia during the conflict:

"Observers in Washington suspect that he may have helped provoke the conflict that he now claims to be solving. One of his most experienced advisors, Joseph R. Wood, was in Tbilisi shortly before the Georgian army launched its military operation.

This was only confirmed by Cheney’s office last week. Government sources say that after the conflict erupted, Cheney urged the White House to respond by sending arms to Georgia."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,575581,00.html
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:21 PM
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1. Exactly as per normal
the news links are from the UK and Germany wherever but NOT the USA.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:27 PM
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2. The Israelis had a contingent of trainers there too
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 03:27 PM by Karenina
with lots of bright shiny hi-tech toys. They skeedaddled after Putin made overtures to Syria.
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Satyagrahi Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:44 PM
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4. And the Israelis apparently knew that they were not training them for Irag:
Tomer (alias), formerly a soldier of an elite IDF unit, returned from Georgia a short while ago. He was enlisted by Defensive Shield, a company owned and operated by Brigadier General (Res.) Gal Hirsch, to help train Georgian soldiers for battle, ...
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"We knew the training had to be completed quickly because the soldiers would soon have to get into real military activity."

He added that the Georgian officers told their soldiers they would be going to help NATO forces in Iraq, while the real objective was Ossetia and Abkhazia.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3583278,00.html


Makes you wonder what the MPRI and the American Systems trainers knew.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:13 PM
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8. We had 1,000 troops on the ground, as well.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:43 PM
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3. Republion mercenaries made a tidy profit on this training
So what's the problem? Crony profits for republicon corporations are good aren't they?

Ptoooey.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:45 PM
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5. None other than Pat Buchanan has said it was the Georgians fault.
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Johnbluedude Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:50 PM
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6. We'll be respected when we stop messing with other countries
Do unto others what you want done to you.
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oldskool Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:13 PM
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7. The sad thing is
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 04:18 PM by oldskool
the foreign and economic policies of Obama and McCain are more
of the same.And all we get is the same non-issue gotcha
politics. History keeps repeating itself and most don't even
get it.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:26 PM
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9. Oh gawd
Give 'em a friggin chance, at least.

This "They're the same" shit is stupid.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Yall notice that Cheney just took a BILLION of our dollars to Georgia? Methinks that Iraq is now off the table and so, Cheney wants to poke the bear to get something else going. O-B would be fine leaving the bear alone. Not anywhere near the same.
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oldskool Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:11 PM
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12. He stands behind Bush,McCain
on everything but Iraq. Read their foreign and economic
policies.This is a uni-lateral push for Globalization.Look
what's going on around the world.Obama agrees on
Pakistan,Georgia,Russia,Iran,etc..bailing out the corporations
etc... If you can't see past the gotcha politics that's your
problem. History is repeating itself for a reason.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:17 PM
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13. Maybe
But they deserve a chance. Most of that is pandering to the warmongering Americans. Let them get in office and then start slinging shit. K? They are not the same. Not even close.
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biermeister Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:05 PM
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11. you said it brother
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:32 PM
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14. He said shit.
And that's all it amounts too.

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biermeister Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:44 AM
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17. Opinions are like assholes,
everyone has one.

Good luck
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:58 PM
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10. Iraq purchased GPS jamming gear
from russia. we blew it up with....gps guided bombs...(cobra II)

This is not abnormal.
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frankieT Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:28 PM
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15. thanks ! Der spiegel article is quite good.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:29 PM
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16. Mercenaries.,.,.,.,.,.,FUGWB
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 08:30 PM by bluesmail
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:41 PM
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18. India military trained US commandos
who knew?
and for what reason?
US special commandos learning Indian army special commando tactics on Guerilla warfare in Mizoram India


India is known for its jungle warfare tactics. lots of nato nations come to india to train there armies for guirilla warfare.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=410_1220802904


Standard cooperation between two democracies ?

riight.
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