Russia to send naval squadron, planes to Venezuela

Source: Associated Press

Russia said Monday it will send a naval squadron and anti-submarine patrol planes to Venezuela this year for a joint military exercise in the Caribbean, a deployment that comes amid increasingly tense relations with the United States.

Russia's Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko said the exercise was planned before Russia's war last month with Georgia "and it's unrelated to the current political situation and the developments in the Caucasus."

"If this exercise takes place, it won't be directed against interests of any third party," Nesterenko said at a briefing.

The announcement was made just a week after Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned that Russia would mount an unspecified response to recent U.S. aid shipments to Georgia.



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I will laugh if we hear how this is a provocative move into our sphere of influence.

and most clueless americans will whip out their flags and support 'the greatest nation on earth"!

:puke:

"this is a provocative move into our sphere of influence."

And they do it for the same reason - to bolster nationalist sentiment in their countries and ride the political wave. Most leaders are most popular when involved in "standing up to" some bad guy, particularly when there is a military component to it.

blow hugos brains out. If they start a new cold war presence in LA we will start tipping governments. Not soft coups, bloody irreversible ones.

That has been the historical response.

I wonder if we'll be willing to tolerate it or if we'll blockade the oil shipments we depend on?

That's what we are putting in Eastern Europe.

there would be fine with me. (Besides anyone that wants to waste the money building and manning a defensive missile site gets what they deserve. :) )

"defensive missiles" (ABM systems)were banned decades ago as destabilizing. The Bush group have reversed the logic, so to speak, in favor of defense contractors. It is not that such a strategy has become any less destabilizing. I prefer the Cold war arrangements; at least they are proven and effective. This provocative policy is destined to cause unrest and, worse still, provoke actual armed conflict. I wonder how we have ended up being such poor strategists in the post-Cold War era. Heaven help us...(metaphorically, that is...)

Cheney makes a trip to Georgia and sends some ships; and Putin counters.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

10-20ct cheaper than anyone in the area.....

thats really the ultimate goal

loosing Yukos to nationalism has cost them big time

and they want revenge

WWIII looms and why am I not surprised because Congress allowed these criminals to have access to our military

our government will change

And to think people actually said "How much damage can Bush do? This is a democracy, after all."

They weren't listening when Hermann Goring was happy enough to warn them.

Which might explain why the U.S. 'encouraged' the Georgian attack.


From the OP -

Russian officials said past U.S. military assistance for Georgia had encouraged the Caucasus country to launch its offensive in South Ossetia, and argued that the new shipments could be a cover for weapons deliveries.

..snip..


"We don't understand what American ships are doing on the Georgian shores, but this is a question of taste, it's a decision by our American colleagues," Putin said. "The second question is why the humanitarian aid is being delivered on naval vessels armed with the newest rocket systems."

dream of - initiation of the liberation of South America, and the rescission of the Monroe Doctrine. I expect Ugo will nominate Bush and Cheney for the Nobel Peace prize.

The inevitable end to this will be the never ending 'check' and never the 'check mate'. Arms race, mutually assured destruction (MAD), and third world countries caught in the middle as both sides vie for third party wars in those countries in their never ending pursuit for dominance.

Been there, seen that. We need to take the toyz away from these boyz by making them irrelevant. Get away from dependence on oil and they're left with limp little dicks.

When Tony's sister goes to anger management classes and is doing pretty well but Tony feels threatened because she's changing the family dynamic so he keeps provoking her until she loses it and attacks him. Then he smiles because he's reinforced the old family pattern of dysfunction and therefore feels secure again.

That's Dick Cheney, Bush and Putin who just can't adjust to the new world after the Cold War.

Let the Russians have thier hissy fit over us helping Georgia. They want us to react to this so they can scream "hypocrite! hypocrite!", we should not give them what they want.

John McCain's Boogeyman.... Who Is Randy Scheunemann?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLHRVPFw0-Y

Spread the word!

I love the idea of seeing our politicians running around in animal skins.

but can be we survivors will be bare ass naked.

will probably be reversed.

There was a lot of ink back in 2004 about Chavez ordering 40 single-seat and 10 two-seat MiG-29s from Russia to replace Venezuela's F-16s. The delivery time-line was 18 months. Did the MiG-29s get delivered? I remember Bu$hco having a hissy-fit over the news of that putative order.


MiG-29