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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:35 PM
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Report: Palin Asked Rick Warren For Advice
Source: CBS

GOP VP nominee Sarah Palin called influential pastor Rick Warren earlier this week to ask for advice on how to handle the criticism that has come her way, The Hill reports.

In a California radio interview, Warren said that Palin had called him to seek help in dealing with the “unfair, unjust” attacks she said she believes had been launched at her since being tapped as John McCain’s running mate. Warren recounted the conversation, saying he responded by saying, “the question I asked her was 'how can I pray for you?'"

Warren said Palin asked him to “send her some bible verses on how do you deal with the unfair, unjust attacks and the mean-spirited criticism that comes in."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/11/politics/horserace/entry4440105.shtml
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:36 PM
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1. These people are fucking scary.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:36 PM
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2. she used him -- that's what it is
She hoped to get him to come out in her defense.

She's a con artist.
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:52 PM
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8. No kidding!!! Why didn't she call her own priest? Because he wasn't quite as popular...
I hope Warren realized he was being used.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:45 PM
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39. Yes, it's just another attention getting PR move. Pathetic. n/t
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:37 PM
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3. It's pretty unfair when someone points out one's inexperience and incompetence.
And pointing out how corrupt and unethical one's administration is...well, that's downright mean!
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:08 PM
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13. Is criticism about charging for rape kits & her stands on social issues going to be unfair as well?
If so, we might as well just end the charade and pronounce McCain/Palin the Pres/VP now.

I'm sorry, but a woman surrogate needs to come out to mute this "unfairness" crap otherwise this election is going to become a farce.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:42 PM
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4. you thing that after being a lifelong "christian" she'd have that book memorized?
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:19 PM
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44. Yeah
I wonder if the paster steered her toward the Psalms. It's a pretty big book, though, but has good verses for the persecuted. I wonder if Warren knew about that.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:35 PM
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48. Hell, be grateful that she didn't call Billy Graham or the Pope.
What an ignoramus! Some Bible knowledge. There is a TOPICAL index in the back of most Bibles, there are concordances - all sorts of references - hell, she could have gone on the internet and found a slew of scriptures by just typing in the topic - which is exactly what Rick Warren would have done, most likely.

One of those pew warmers, I'd say--the type that just practices Christianity for one hour on Sunday - when they go to Church. What a complete IDIOT! I'm beginning to think that not only is she an airhead, she has a low IQ.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:43 PM
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5. With apologies to The Coasters....
Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin
She's a clown, that Sarah Palin
She's gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why's everybody always pickin' on me)
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:45 PM
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6. So she's whining already
Maybe she can get some advice from Hillary.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:42 PM
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27. Maybe Phil Gramm would have some sympathetic words for her.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:49 PM
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7. Isn't that confidential? Old Rick need 15 more minutes? nt
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:36 PM
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49. That pompous, fat slob who has become a media whore himself. n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:52 PM
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9. And the MSM reports it like a bunch of Pavlov's dogs...n/t
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:48 PM
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50.  After all her big, blustery talk, criticizing Hillary - someone needs to remind her of this clip:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:58 PM
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10. We're supposed to believe she's tough enough to be VP?
WTF?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:03 PM
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11. Why don't these people ever follow the precepts of their "Savior"? . . .
In Matthew 6:5-9, Jesus tells his followers:

5“Whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray while standing in synagogues and on street corners so that people can see them. Truly I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But whenever you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you. 7 When you pray, do not babble repetitiously like the Gentiles, because they think that by their many words they will be heard. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:30 PM
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22. Oh Lord, do offer a bible verse as requested. Beats requesting earmarks!!
Here's just one prayer I recommend:

"And now, O Lord, I plead mercifully, may you be mindful of me, Sarah, and look with favor upon me.
Punish me not for my sins, nor for my inadvertent offenses,
nor for those of my leaders, corrupt bastards that they are.

“They sinned against you, and disobeyed you commandments, started wars, killed children, and wrecked the economy.
So you handed us over to the bankers, plundering, exile, and death, till we were an object lesson, a byword, a reproach,
... but, O Lord, I plead mercifully, spare me, Sarah, and look with favor upon me.

“Yes, your judgments are many and true in dealing with me as my sins and those of my fathers deserve.
For we have not kept your commandments, nor have we trodden the paths of truth before you. We're a pack of liars.
... but, O Lord, I plead mercifully, spare me, Sarah, and look with favor upon me.

“So now, deal with me as you please, because I have heard insulting calumnies, and I am overwhelmed with grief.
Lord, command me to be delivered from such anguish; let me go to the everlasting abode; Lord, refuse me not, start the frikkin' Rapture already.
For it is better for me to die than to endure so much misery in life, and to hear these insults! For they are true.
O Lord, I plead mercifully, spare me, Sarah, and look with favor upon me."
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:06 PM
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12. this is politics, baby
it's all unfair and unjust... stop your whining
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:09 PM
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14. This is a friggin nightmare with no end....
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:28 PM
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15. Here's one Sarah
pride goes before destruction and the haughty spirit before the fall.

Try that one on for size and see what it does for ya...
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Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:39 PM
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16. More on Palin
Hi, I've read DU just about everyday, but never post. Today I was e-mailed this letter from a lady who knows Sara Palin. I tried to post it on DU, but was unable to do so since I haven't replied to other posts to qualify. So, I'm going to paste it in below. Please copy it and send it to anyone you know who is considering voting Republican (especially if they live in a swing state). Thanks!

WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
First, I have long believed in the importance of being and informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne
Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "Bad things happen when good people stay silent". Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sara's attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.


ABOUT SARAH PALIN

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because she is a "babe".
It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.
She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.
She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.
She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.
Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.
She's smart. Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though; borrowed money was needed too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? Or a new library? No.
$1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing. Also, while Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once. These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as
Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state. In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's surplus, borrow for needs.

She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for Mayor. So what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).

As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her. When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best - Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move, which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, and then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further
legislative action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply because she as not aware of their importance--but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together a package of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum. Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state initiative that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President. There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she. However, there are a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.


CLAIM VS FACT
•“Hockey mom”: true for a few years
•“PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
•“NRA supporter”: absolutely true
•social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconstitutional).
•pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
•“Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby
BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
•“Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
•political maverick: not at all
•gutsy: absolutely!
•open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
•has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
•”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of bigbox stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
•fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
•pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
•pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
•pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.
•pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.


Anne Kilkenny
annekilkenny@hotmail.com
August 31, 2008



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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:47 PM
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25. Thank you for this!
I'm going to link this post on a new thread. Excellent stuff here!
Welcome to DU! :you rock:
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:48 PM
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17. If she ever becomes President, I hope Putin isn't mean to her.
And God forbid bin Laden ever insults her.

I don't think Obama has ever called his minister to cry about "unfair, unjust" attacks on him, like calling him a Muslim extremist or claiming he's not a US citizen.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:56 PM
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18. Very simple Sarah, ask God the help you do the next right thing, pack your bags,
...withdraw from the McCain campaign and go back to Alaska. Mean-spirited criticism my ass, you aren't qualified to be president!
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:59 PM
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19. does warren have a soul?
because it sounds to me like he was very uncomfortable with this. His response was "how can I pray for you?"

Where I come from, that could mean "You need help, but in a different way than you think."

I imagine Pastor Warren, if he has a soul, is praying for her soul, knowing that she has made a mockery of the faith by lying publicly and using her children to further her career, to their detriment. christians are told they will know the faithful by the way they conduct themselves. The first thing to look for is truthfulness. It is an indicator of being evil, of working for the devil, to lie, gossip, and or slander another person. She's certainly done all three of those things on international TV no less. How truly sad.

Pastor Warren, if I were a praying person, I'd help you out here because she really needs it. Please pray she gets the help she needs and that she does it in a place far far away from the WH.
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empire we are Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:05 PM
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20. Stop
Pwhr Sahwa. She stepped on to da big powitical stage and is bewing kwitasized. Stop. She is so good and phur she cannot ewnin talk to dos vewy, vewy nasty people who don't wike her.
Nasty people stop kwitasizing her. She wuvs God and babies too. Nasty people go away.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:15 PM
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21. Took me less than a minute
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 02:30 PM by Bluenorthwest
To look up some verses for Palin. Guess she does not know her Bible well, nor how to use a concordance, odd for a woman who is allegedly so religious.

Jesus has some fairly straight forward advice for Palin, but she's not going to like it. Matthew 5:44 says " bless them that curse you, do good to the that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you."
Palin's ilk might usually has contempt for that guy, and they lean more toward Paul, so a repeat from Romans 10:14 "bless them which persecute you, bless and curse not."

Not advice Palin is likey to cotton to much.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:35 PM
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23. This ploy for voter sympathy may get her more verses than curses!
And she may like the verses less than the curses, "Love thy enemy." :rofl:
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:38 PM
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24. Is his church tax exempt? If so, it shouldn't be. eom
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:15 PM
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33. In what way has his church been partisan?
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:53 PM
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26. My goodness-she really is a hothouse orchid.
She needs a thicker skin.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:50 PM
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28. Warren was out of line...
NO self-respecting, professional clergy
goes public when someone asks for help.

Even if it was a notable political celebrity
(and I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt here)
He was wrong to 'confide and tell.'

I guess we're all about the spotlight here,
but it is wrong,wrong,wrong to say publickly
who calls you for help.

I think that qualified as professional misconduct.

Doesn't she have a personal pastor to call for
prayer and advice?

Sounds like someone's looking for publicity...
Is it Palin?

Or is it Warren?

Both are jerks.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:58 PM
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29. Now he should be giving advice to Obama and Biden in dealing with the unfair, unjust attacks
Palin has been aiming their way.

Hypocrites.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:16 PM
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34. I'll bet he'd ask them how he could pray for them?
He's been pretty non-partisan this whole time.

David
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:39 PM
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30. kick + a link to an active GD thread that is highly related
2 daughters of Alaska, Susan Lindauer & Sarah Palin: a real spooky political conspiracy thread (started 9-21-2008)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4052105
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:56 PM
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31. Here's the audio of the pastor on the radio
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:03 PM
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32. could she have been any more critical and sarcastic at the RNC?..
What goes around. comes around.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:37 PM
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35. This is not something you can cram for...
either you know your shit or you don't and I am confident that falin does not know here ass from a hole in the ground.

Joe is a 20+ year veteran Senator, falin does not have shit on him.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:48 PM
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36. Personal responsibility.
Like most extremists, it's for others to have...

Finger pointing is their normal behavior.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:06 PM
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37. If you can't stand the heat,
get out of the fucking kitchen...

Is the criticism unfair and unjust or does she just have a PERSECUTION COMPLEX?

I would like to see more mainstream investigation of her extra marital affairs and the way she takes her small children out on hunting trips to kill wildlife
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:18 PM
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38. "unfair, unjust"....
....c'mon hocker-mom....that geezer buddy of yours accusing Obama of wanting sex education for young children when Obama supported educating children about child predators is what's "unfair, unjust"....

....but listen hocker-mom, if it makes you feel any better, I too will pray for you....
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:29 PM
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40. more evidence of what a piece of shit Palin is
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:06 PM
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41. Here is a good Bible verse: "Jesus wept" when he heard she joined McCain.
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 11:27 PM by IndianaGreen
More religious grandstanding and "feel sorry for me" tripe from Palin.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:02 AM
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53. Jesus Hearts Aerial Wolf Kills
(just testing bumpersticker)
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:09 PM
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42. sep 11th...
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 11:10 PM by Poseidan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIVgKIuISx4

Does Palin think there are unfair or unjust attacks in the above National Geographic video? Exactly what level of brutality is Palin familiar with?
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:11 PM
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43. Here's one for you, Sarah: "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's."
Go ponder that one for a while.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:12 AM
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45. "Look here, you rich men, now is the time to cry and groan with anguished grief
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 10:12 AM by bobthedrummer
because of all the troubles ahead of you.

Your wealth is even now rotting away, and your fine clothes are becoming mere moth-eaten rags.

The value of your gold and silver is dropping fast, yet it will stand as evidence against you, and eat your flesh like fire.
That is what you have stored up for yourselves, to receive on that coming day of judgement.

For listen! Hear the cries of the field workers whom you have cheated of their pay. Their cries have reached the Lord of Hosts."

James 5:1-4 The Living Bible
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:50 AM
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46. She called him again?
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 10:50 AM by firedupdem
I saw this same sympathy story about 2 weeks into their campaign. This is total bullshit to try and get some sympathy going for her.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 07:37 PM
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47. Hey Sarah "politics isn't beanbag"
maybe you better stay on the porch cause you obviously can't run with the big dogs. x(
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:11 PM
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51. she should ask him for advice re: those Russian "negotiations" she has during Putin's flyovers
:rofl:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:48 PM
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52. That nasty mean-spirited bitch can dish it out, but she can't take it
I hope Biden leaves her bleeding
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