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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 11:51 PM
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Cheney Linked Hussein to Al-Qaeda, Ex-GOP House Leader (Dick Armey) Says in Book
Source: WP

A GOP congressional leader who was wavering on giving President Bush the authority to wage war in late 2002 said Vice President Cheney misled him by saying that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had direct personal ties to al-Qaeda terrorists and was making rapid progress toward a suitcase nuclear weapon, according to a new book by Washington Post investigative reporter Barton Gellman.

Cheney's assertions, described by former House majority leader Richard K. Armey (Tex.), came in a highly classified one-on-one briefing in Room H-208, the vice president's hideaway office in the Capitol. The threat Cheney described went far beyond public statements that have been criticized for relying on "cherry-picked" intelligence of unknown reliability. There was no intelligence to support the vice president's private assertions, Gellman reports, and they "crossed so far beyond the known universe of fact that they were simply without foundation."

Armey had spoken out against the coming war, and his opposition gave cover to Democrats who feared the political costs of appearing to be weak. Armey reversed his position after Cheney told him, he said, that the threat from Iraq was actually " more imminent than we want to portray to the public at large."

Cheney said, according to Armey, that Iraq's "ability to miniaturize weapons of mass destruction, particularly nuclear," had been "substantially refined since the first Gulf War," and would soon result in "packages that could be moved even by ground personnel." Cheney linked that threat to Hussein's alleged ties to al-Qaeda, Armey said, explaining that "we now know they have the ability to develop these weapons in a very portable fashion, and they have a delivery system in their relationship with organizations such as al-Qaeda."

"Did Dick Cheney . . . purposely tell me things he knew to be untrue?" Armey said. "I seriously feel that may be the case. . . . Had I known or believed then what I believe now, I would have publicly opposed {the war} resolution right to the bitter end, and I believe I might have stopped it from happening."

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR2008091503064.html



Impeachment?

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:09 AM
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1. Finally bringing out the truth, but only when it's for a profit. And too late.
They all make me :puke:
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:32 AM
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11. Oh, thats what they all do. I still remember McNamara's soul cleansing book before he died.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:08 AM
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13. Fits their mentality quite well. Selfish pigs. n/t
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:30 PM
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24. How is this for profit?
..also Dick Armey retired in 2002, and then gave strong signals to fellow Republicans in 2006 that maybe the republican party needed to lose because it had strayed so far from decency.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 12:55 AM
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29. Strong 'signs' are not telling the truth.
He didn't stand up and it is too late now to try to make a noise. Glad for the info he's giving, but it's diddley shit at this point. He wrote for profit, the truth is incidental.

jmho
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:10 AM
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2. And he didn't say all this in 2004 when we had a chance to vote bush out?
To hell with Dick Armey and his kind.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:44 AM
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3. Another rat leaving the sinking GOP, protesting innocence.
The good news is that Cheney Inc., the Pentagon and Wall Street are going down as we speak. Their ways of doing business are finished.

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carla Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:07 AM
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5. Rep.Armey
has just gone on record stating that he is sufficiently gullible to believe the bald-faced lies Cheney lobbed at him. I guess wisdom is not a part of politics...sheesh, what a sap!
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:34 PM
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26. Give him a break. He opposed the war when dems would not.
And I think it's reasonable for the House Majority Leader to believe that the VP would not lie to him to his face, in private.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:51 AM
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4. So happy to Five this story.
Sweeeeet!
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:20 AM
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6. but...the surge is a success!!!!!
Edited on Tue Sep-16-08 01:21 AM by greenman3610
:sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:26 AM
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7. It's so funny in a warped way that these guys are confessing what we know already.
It's like listening to wet drunks at an open meeting.

Welcome, Dick!

:rofl:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:43 AM
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8. Cheney is a monster...
and that Republican leader was obviously an irresponsible idiot; but at least he's opening his mouth about it now!

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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:05 AM
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9. Hussein > bin Laden link?; Cheney was right
it was always one degree of separation through the Bush family, Carlyle, CIA, etc.

:think:

propaganda always has a kernel of truth
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 02:10 AM
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10. this is all part of a lame effort to soften the blow against them
a trickle of truth here, a trickle there, all part of a stream of reality all released to allow them to say that all of this was known - so it's no big deal

this is all part of a disinformation campaign imo - psy opps 100%

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 03:19 AM
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12. "Iraq's ability to miniaturize weapons of mass destruction...had been substantially refined..."
That's true.

In fact those WMD where so miniaturized that nobody found them.

You know what? That guy was afraid of Cheney and is scared shitless now so

that's why he's spilling the beans.:puke:
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:20 AM
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14. if anything is grounds for impeachment . . .
oh what's the use
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 04:53 AM
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15. War crimes, perhaps...
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:28 AM
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16. But, but Obama called Palin a pig the other day!
Didn't you hear about it?

The outrage!
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 05:51 AM
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17. Great Post!
Thanks So Much. I hope that DK picks this up for evidence in his pursuit of HR 333. :wow:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:13 AM
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18. Expect more of this before January
See, if Cheney is assigned all the blame for the war, Bush only has to sign one pardon. He doesn't have to pardon the whole Republican Party because Cheney did it all.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:13 AM
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19. Is Dick Armey trying to cover his ass?
"Had I known or believed then what I believe now, I would have publicly opposed {the war} resolution right to the bitter end, and I believe I might have stopped it from happening."

I don't know if I can believe him on that statement. The rest I am sure is probably true we have suspected that since before the war started.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:54 AM
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23. Trying? How much you want to bet the book is practically written...
...on diapers?

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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 12:31 PM
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25. wtf? Armey didn't write the book, it's an anecdote in the book.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:27 PM
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27. Whatever. Yes, he's covering his ass. n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:17 AM
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20. Bother
"Had I known or believed then what I believe now, I would have publicly opposed..."

Beyond lame. Always has been


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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:20 AM
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21. None Of Them Is Clean--No Quarter Given
NoFederales
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 06:35 AM
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22. I guess this is why Nancy took impeachment off the table..
she was in the meeting and heard those lies, and doesn't want anyone to know that she trusted Cheney.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:33 PM
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28. Hey Nancy No-see! You Asked For "The Goods." Here You Go.
A GOP leader accusing the regime of lying to Congress. Really, http://www.democrats.com/pelosi-would-impeach-bush-if-she-had-the-goods">"the goods" don't get much better.

It's never too late or too soon to abide by your oath and defend the Constitution. But it's far worse than your failure.

Without impeachment, the bushcheneyists will continue to pull the puppet strings on people like McCain, Palin, Armey, Pelosi, Blue Dogs, and even those in the "scandal-ridden" Obama admin.

Impeachment remains our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

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