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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:15 PM
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Palin's husband refuses to testify in probe
Source: Associated Press

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's husband has refused to testify in the investigation of his wife's alleged abuse of power, and a key lawmaker said Thursday that uncooperative witnesses are effectively sidetracking the probe until after Election Day.

Todd Palin, who participates in state business in person or by e-mail, was among 13 people subpoenaed by the Alaska Legislature. McCain-Palin presidential campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan announced Thursday that Todd Palin would not appear, because he no longer believes the Legislature's investigation is legitimate.

Sarah Palin initially welcomed the investigation of accusations that she dismissed the state's public safety commissioner because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, a state trooper. "Hold me accountable," she said.

But she has increasingly opposed it since Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her as his running mate. The McCain campaign dispatched a legal team to Alaska including O'Callaghan, a former top U.S. terrorism prosecutor from New York to bolster Palin's local lawyer.

Earlier this week, Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg said the governor, who was not subpoenaed, declined to participate in the investigation and said Palin administration employees who have been subpoenaed would not appear.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080919/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate_39
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:17 PM
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1. Well, that's pretty transparent straight talking open government.

They made a disaster of a move with this one.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:40 PM
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11. Screw you 'Todd Pale in Comparison'!
You and your Moose Bunny do not get run my country if you do not let me know what you are about! You unethical prick!
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StopTheNeoCons Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:05 PM
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15. Todd 'Chicken Shit' Palin - Lousy American
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kmdemqueen Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:05 AM
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50.  moose bunny LMAO
I mean LAUGH MY ASS OFF. yOU KNOW CAN'T THEY FORCE Todd TO TESTIFY AGAINST THE MOOSE BUNNY.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:11 PM
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19. They're screwing this up in a Rove move ...

This really didn't sound that bad. The individual in question had apparently made death threats. Had she just said "you're damn right I did" I think she could have taken that heat.

The cover up is what is going to make them look really bad.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:12 AM
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45. Well.. it's not that cut and dried. He may have done things.. but others he may not.
It was after-the-fact stuff charged during a nasty divorce. A few things he copped to and was suspended by the PD. The other stuff was probably typical bad divorce stuff that comes up waaay later when someone wants custody.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:45 AM
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47. This is the precedent...
set by Rove, Miers, and Bolton and it can only get worse as there are no consequences. Are you listening Pelosi? The longer the Democrats let them skate on this the more they become the punchline to the joke. On a sidenote, I find it interesting that Miers was considered as a Supreme Court Justice considering her utter contempt for the rule of law.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:17 PM
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2. Lawyer: Todd Palin won't testify in 'Troopergate'
Lawyer: Todd Palin won't testify in 'Troopergate'
By MATT VOLZ – 21 minutes ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Todd Palin is refusing to testify in an abuse-of-power investigation into his wife, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Palin had been subpoenaed to appear Friday before Alaska lawmakers to testify as to whether Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan was fired because he refused to dismiss a state trooper who had gone through a bitter divorce with Sarah Palin's sister.

McCain-Palin spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said Thursday that Todd Palin no longer believes the Legislature's investigation is legitimate.

A key lawmaker says the stonewalling of witnesses is likely to stall the probe until after Election Day.

more:http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jOTk11gvqDAgD0cY3i4WjI_2YOxwD939EM6O0
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:09 AM
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48. "...Palin no longer believes the Legislature's investigation is legitimate."
Jefferson is spinning in his grave.


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jacobfloyd Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:09 AM
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66. I wish I could get of cases if I no longer believe they're legitimate
:)
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:49 AM
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62. What part of arrest them for contempt of court
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 06:52 AM by Liberalynn
don't you "lawmakers" understand? Would you like to borrow some of the textbooks that I saved? I have a paralegal degree that I never used, so I am not as smart as all you elected officials who swore to uphold the laws of the U.S., but even I know you are not supposed to be able to ignore a court order.

So much for their belief in their "Bible" too. They swear an oath on it that they have no intention of honoring. So aren't they swearing on it while lying? Its been awhile since Catholic School but isn't that breaking a commandment too? "Thou Shalt Not Lie?"

Oh yeah that too obviously only applies to "we little people."

"Equality and Justice for all" YEAH RIGHT!!!!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:18 PM
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3. Waterboard them all. And imprison them all in Gitmo.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:42 PM
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84. Hear Hear! lol nt
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:18 PM
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4. Chronicle.com: Lawyer: Todd Palin won't testify in 'Troopergate'
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 07:18 PM by DogPoundPup
McCain-Palin spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said Thursday that Todd Palin no longer believes the Legislature's investigation is legitimate.

A key lawmaker says the stonewalling of witnesses is likely to stall the probe until after Election Day.

Sarah Palin at first welcomed the investigation but opposes it now as the Republican candidate for vice president.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/6010146.html
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:00 AM
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63. "Hey Judge Dude"
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 07:05 AM by Liberalynn
"This case is totally bogus, man, so like I don't have to go through any trial man."

I'd like to see anyone but a Republican annointed one try this and see what happens.

What happened to trusting the Justice System to sort out what was legitimate and not legitimate?

This cover up alone should automatically end McSame/Caribou's campaign but it won't. It won't.

Most of Amurka is too worried that Obama might raise their taxes. Never mind that the Thugs are taking a dump on the entire Justice system, and the Constitution.

You saved a few dollars more on your taxes each year, and had it taken away with other hidden taxes, but that's okay. Hope your "illusionary tax breaks" were worth our Democracy, you fools.


WAKE UP AMERICA
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:18 PM
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5. Fine 1) I officially presume she's guilty for not cooperating 2) witnesses can speak on the side now
Let's watch as this is kept alive in the rumor mill until election day - that'll teach her not to cooperate.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:24 PM
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6. What the hell's HIS excuse?
I don't think there is one..
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ComplimentarySwine Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:22 PM
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35. There's at least one that I can think of (I think?)
I thought that no one could force you to testify against your spouse? Is this not the case?
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:54 PM
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41. Alaska rules of evidence allow for spousal privilege
There are exceptions but none appear to apply here.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:02 AM
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65. There is more than enough evidence to prove a business relationship with third parties involved.
No spousal privilege. But Palin maybe able to claim executive privilege because of the business relationship. A Volunteer is still an employee. Even a volunteer shadow Governor or cabinet member.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:23 PM
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81. It's a legislative oversight inquiry, not a civil or criminal case
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:29 AM
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68. - but SHE wasn't even subpoenaed.... How does HE know he'll
be asked to testify against her if he doesn't even show up? I think you HAVE to show up.
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ComplimentarySwine Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 03:41 PM
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85. That makes sense n/t
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:25 PM
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7. She and her staff haven't cooperated in 7 months eventhough she said they would.
"But she has increasingly opposed it since Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her as his running mate."
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:30 PM
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8. He was subpoenaed. On what grounds? Jail his ass.
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SE_Ohio_Dem Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:31 PM
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9. Trained by Bush et al...
Sounds like a move from the Rove/Myers playbook. Next time I get subpoenaed, I'm just going to refuse to reply because "I don't want to!". Yeah...that's the ticket.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:31 PM
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10. Makes me wonder how difficult her Gov job will be come fall.
having to deal with the AK legislature.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:37 AM
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56. She Won't Have a Job or Much Else Left
Sarah Palin will not survive her adventures through the Looking Glass of GOP politics on a national forum. For the sake of the children, I hope they are all taken into custody and dispersed to foster care that is specialized in healing abused and neglected childrem.
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jb5150 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:44 PM
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12. refuses to testify?
That line sounds so familer.......I know I've heard it before, I just can't remember where.....darn, it'll come to me...........:sarcasm:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:44 PM
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13. Obviously they're all dirty..
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:47 PM
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14. If an ordinary citizen ignores a subpoena, we're jailed. SO SHOULD ALL OF THEM. This is bullshit.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:09 PM
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18. Todd Palin is an ordinary citizen, despite his kibitzing.
He has no basis to refuse to appear. Sarah can try to claim executive privilege, Todd has not a leg to stand on and should be jailed for contempt.
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:06 PM
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16. Why can't they make Sara and Toad not be able to leave the state if they will
not testify?
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:08 PM
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17. can I now refuse to serve on jury duty?
I mean, really...
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:36 PM
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22. That's exactly what I was thinking!
If we fail to show up for jury duty we can go to jail. It must be lovely to be able to decide not to show up when you're subpoenaed. Geez! These people answer to no one. They are above the law. People that have nothing to hide, hide nothing.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:13 PM
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20. I wonder who will be playing Todd on SNL this week...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:35 PM
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21. Obviously, the truth might derail the campaign moreso than the stalling.
There is a difference between what is the right thing to do and political expediencies.
Standing up and telling the truth should not be an unwelcomed burden to those acting in the capacity concerned.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:37 PM
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23. The Pukes keep spitting in the face of Justice
and no one does anything about it.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:03 PM
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33. McCain campaign top legal team including OCallaghan, once a
US terrorism prosecutor, was sent to Alaska to intervene in the Palin investigation. Nothing like political power to corrupt the justice system. It is befitting that Palin is a GOP operative. I hope that much is made of this political move to divert and convolute the legal process.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:55 PM
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24. I Thought Men Were Men....
... up in the wild and hard Alaskan tundra. Turns out they're spineless wimps who can't stand up to the big, bad outsiders coming in and taking over their government. This whole wimp-out makes Alaskan government look pretty damn poor and crooked. I would like to know the true character of the candidates running for the highest offices in our land... with no answer on this trooper deal, how are we supposed to know what Palin would do as VicePrez, or even ( God forbid ) President of the USA? Although I'm getting a pretty good picture of a fundy control freak with no room for any dissent... and a thirst for vengeance.
Nice looking, though.... even if the evangelical fire does show in her eyes.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:52 AM
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60. You know, she's really not all that "nice looking" after all.
Obviously, Palin's soul is ugly and twisted, but some pictures of her actually make her look pretty. I've now decided that these must be Photoshopped or retouched somehow because in closeup videos from the campaign trail, she appears very hard-faced and unpleasant. What happened to all the pretty? Give her a few more years and she'll look just like Mean Jean Schmidthead!

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:58 PM
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25. I'll remember next time I'm subpoenaed just to say
that the investigation is not legitimate. :eyes:
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:27 PM
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37. LMAO -- That was my thought
I know I was subpoenaed to testify, your honor, but the trial is not legitimate

Hell, that traffic ticket I was given last year..not legitimate -- I ain't paying

That whold drunk driving law thingy -- not legit, not one little bit. I'm ignoring it.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:00 PM
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26. Sarah Palin is another Dick Cheney
while Todd is another Scooter Libby.
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Hotdiggitydog Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:18 PM
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30. Thats why the Repug base likes her
The Palins are cut from the same mold as Bush and Cheney. Only Sarah Palin is as dumb as Bush. There is no denying Cheney is smart. Completely satanic, but smart. Sarah Palin is a pretty, but dumb populist MILF.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:10 PM
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27. Déjà vu

snort
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:13 PM
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28. They be hide'n some'n and his ass should be arrested for contempt!
Put the "first dudd" in the slammer!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:15 PM
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29. Time to Be Forceful...
show the world you as a government have balls enough to do the right thing by your own people. Stop looking like a disgrace and do your fucking jobs!
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:38 PM
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31. I must be an idiot.. because if I'm subpoenaed... I show up
I guess I respect the laws of this country though, something the repukes don't get.

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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:46 PM
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32. In Monkeyboys Amerika, subpoena's are merely
"voluntary". Unless you are a Mere Citizen.:mad:
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:17 PM
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34. If any of us refused to testify we'd be held in contempt.
Blowing off supbeonas and refusing to testify is all the rage nowadays with these creeps and so far we've yet to see one of them held accountable for thumbing their noses at our governmental system. I don't know why this kind of arrogance is tolerated.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:22 PM
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36. Hilarious.
The secessionist nutjob behind Alaska's tin-pot despot refuses to testify.

Sweet little touch, John McCain.

Idiot.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:31 PM
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38. The buffer zone
with a crooked justice dept.,five criminal court jesters on his side,he should feel safe,plus millions of stupid citizens.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:48 PM
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39. Spitting in the face of the justice system
Rethugs have been doing this for years. It's simply become more brazen lately because it appears that there's no one out there with the guts and reverence for the rule of law to actually stop them.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:05 PM
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42. I need an ad with all the subpoena refusers.
More Stonewalling. More Disrespect for the Law.

More of the Same.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:51 PM
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40. "If he has nothing to hide..."
well, you know the rest.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:50 PM
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43. Illegally ignoring subpoenas already??!
Dontcha have to wait until you're actually in the White House before you get to ignore all the laws made for the common (little) people?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:09 AM
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44. Not if you're a Republican
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:16 AM
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46. If memory serves me correctly, didn't Susan Macdougal spend years in prison for that?
refusing to testify to satisfy Kenneth Starr's penchant for bullshit???

Where is old Kenneth Starr? Is he on Palin's legal team yet? or are they saving him for the election challenge?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:40 AM
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57. Not only that, but in ISOLATION, and wearing leg irons and handcuffs whenever she was moved. n/t
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 03:27 AM
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49. Call their bluff and the republicans always crumble.
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:37 AM
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51. Todd Palin is just another example of Republican sleaziness
Elect one, the whole blame family comes along for the ride (and to cash in)
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:38 AM
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52. Todd is a wimp
so he is a champion snowmobile racer...but he can run faster - from the law!
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:48 AM
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53. Yet more evidence
that Republicans are above the law.
We used to be a nation of laws.
Scourging for all Republicans.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:56 AM
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54. He is acting awfully GUILTY of something.....so series the GOP Lawyers tole him to STONE IT
Sarahs creds gone down the rabbit hole too....

Obama will gain 12 points in 2 days....
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:23 AM
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55. They actually mentioned this on my local morning news
Maybe the MSM is starting to report on stuff that's negative to the repugs? That would be a welcome change.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:43 AM
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58. What a pair of jerks these Palins are.
And these are the people McCain would entrust our country to? What a joke.

The more I find out about Lisa and Todd, and the way politics is handled in Alaska, the less I like them.
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anniebelle Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:44 AM
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59. Todd Palin is one scary looking prick.
I see him (when I can't get to my clicker fast enough) standing on the stage behind that redneck bitch of his, looking like EVIL incarnate. His eyes look like Cindy McCain's -- DEAD.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:34 AM
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61. On what basis does Todd Palin participate in Alaska's government?
"Todd Palin, who participates in state business in person or by e-mail" - what appointment does he hold, or what position was he elected to? On what legal basis does Mr. Palin function as an Alaska government official?
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:18 AM
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73. It's a fundie thing -- Can you visualize "President Todd"?
Fundamentalists believe that wives must be submissive to their husbands. In a political context, that means Sarah Palin does not weigh in or wield power without the advance approval of Todd. His influence as Alaska's "shadow governor" is well established. Would this role cease to exist if Sarah Palin was elected Vice President, or if she ascended to the office of President if McCain died in office? The answer is "absolutely not". Todd would still function as the superior alter-ego, regardless of the office that his wife held.
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:47 AM
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75. Ooh yes
but don't forget that if Hillary had been the nominee, the 'pukdes would have been all over the fact that Bill would have been back in the WH "running things behind the scenes" :silly:


Guess it's OK if the couple are religious nutjob 'pukes.:eyes:
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:58 AM
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76. I'll say one thing for Hillary
She has a mind of her own. With Hillary as President, Bill would have been there as an adviser, but there's no way that he would wield veto power over any decisions. Hillary submissive? No way!
Ironic that the same fundies who would have voiced no objections to Todd Palin running the show from behind the scenes would have been all over Bill for (allegedly) doing the same.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:04 AM
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77. This will look VERY bad for the Palins
Covering up?
Hiding something?
Contempt for the legal system?
Stonewalling?
Evasive?
Corrupt?
Above the law?
Political damage control?
All of the above perhaps? Yes. Let them "proceed" as planned, at their own peril.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 01:40 PM
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82. As it should. n/t
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Faith No More Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:02 AM
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64. Doesn't this set a legal precident?
Couldn't this then apply to us as well? We'll all just not show up and then point to good 'ol Karl and Todd.
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:25 AM
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67. Spousal privilege
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 07:47 AM by dropkickpa
He is legally well within his rights to refuse to testify, and, unlike repugs, I don't support stripping people of their legal rights (no matter how much i dislike the involved parties). His testimony is not truly needed, and there are others who are *not* protected by spousal privilege whom Alaska CAN go after legally for their refusal to adequately respond to their subpoena's.

Alaska Rules of Evidence
http://www.state.ak.us/courts/ev.htm

Rule 505. Husband-Wife Privileges.

(a) Spousal Immunity.

(1) General Rule. A husband shall not be examined for or against his wife, without his consent, nor a wife for or against her husband, without her consent.

(2) Exceptions. There is no privilege under this subdivision:

(A) In a civil proceeding brought by or on behalf of one spouse against the other spouse; or

(B) In a proceeding to commit or otherwise place a spouse, the property of a spouse or both the spouse and the property of the spouse under the control of another because of the alleged mental or physical condition of the spouse; or

(C) In a proceeding brought by or on behalf of a spouse to establish the spouse's competence or

(D) In a proceeding in which one spouse is charged with:

(i) A crime against the person or the property of the other spouse or of a child of either, whether such crime was committed before or during marriage.

(ii) Bigamy, incest, adultery, pimping, or prostitution.

(iii) A crime related to abandonment of a child or nonsupport of a spouse or child.

(iv) A crime prior to the marriage.

(v) A crime involving domestic violence as defined in AS 18.66.990.

(E) In a proceeding involving custody of a child.

(F) Evidence derived from or related to a business relationship involving the spouses.
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Thorandmjolnir Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:46 AM
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69. No his is not!
Spousal immunity does not mean you can ignore a subpoena. It only means you cannot be forced to testify against your spouse. A subpoena is a court order to show up for a court proceeding. Once there, if he is asked about his wife, then he can claim the privilege. You can only be excused from a subpoena by the attorney who is issuing the it or the court. What if the investigator would like to know something about Mr. Palin? or e-mails he has received? There are many questions to ask that would not violate any privileges.

Lastly, the Alaska Rules of Evidence might nor apply in this case:

"General Applicability. These rules apply in all proceedings in the courts of the State of Alaska except as otherwise required by the Constitution of the United States or this state or as otherwise provided for by enactment of the Alaska Legislature, by the provisions of this rule, or by other rules promulgated by the Alaska Supreme Court. The word "judge" in these rules includes magistrates and masters."

It can be argued that this is not a court proceeding by a senate investigation.
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:55 AM
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70. Even so
He's not a reliable tree to bark up. I want the asshole real state employees to face up to this.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:07 AM
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78. epic fail
This isn't a family issue
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:47 AM
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80. Never said it was
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Don Davis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:00 AM
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71. In Response to Subpoena, First Dude Palin Proves Unavailin'
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:02 AM
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72. arrest the SOB.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:24 AM
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74. Failure to obey subpoena could bring charges.
Todd Palin will not appear before Troopergate committee

MEETS TODAY: Failure to obey subpoena could bring charges.

By WESLEY LOY
wloy@adn.com

Published: September 19th, 2008 04:10 AM
Last Modified: September 19th, 2008 05:01 AM

At a packed press conference at the Republican campaign office on Northern Lights Boulevard, O'Callaghan said Todd Palin submitted "objections" to the subpoena to Steve Branchflower

The Senate Judiciary Committee, which issued subpoenas for Todd Palin and a dozen other people, most of them state employees, is scheduled to meet at 10 a.m. today at the legislative office building downtown to take their testimony.

But few if any of these people are expected to appear and, in fact, some of them never were actually served with the subpoenas after the governor's appointed attorney general, Talis Colberg, declared Palin administration workers would not testify.

State law says if a witness refuses to obey a subpoena, the full state Senate or House may "commit the witness for contempt" and take "such action as may be considered necessary." That could lead to physically hauling the witness in, or imposing fines and jail time. But the Legislature won't be in session again until January.

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/530885.html

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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:45 AM
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79. Frankly, I really like the way McCain is handling this.
He's doing all the damage he feared an investigation would bring. Sail on, McBub.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:39 PM
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83. Palin's husband refuses to testify in Alaska probe
Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:58am EDT
By Yereth Rosen

... "The objections boil down to the fact that the legislative council investigation is no longer a legitimate investigation because it has been subjected to complete partisanship," campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said.

Todd Palin could be found in contempt of the legislature for failing to comply, but the whole body would have to be in session to do so, and it is not scheduled to reconvene until January ...

"Nobody is above the law," said State Sen. Bill Wielechowski, an Anchorage Democrat. "Just because you're the husband of someone who is running for vice president doesn't mean you can flout the law."

The inquiry was authorized by a unanimous vote of Alaska's bipartisan Legislative Council. At the time, the governor pledged full cooperation with the probe ...

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1834757920080919
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 03:53 PM
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86. he must have a lot to hide
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:57 PM
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87. And by what authority?
He is a civilian and can not REFUSE to testify. Its a court order, either you do it or you can go straight to jail.

Did McInsane abuse his power again to keep Todd from doing so?

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