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inanna Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:24 AM
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Nato plan for rapid-reaction force to counter Russian aggression
Source: Times Online

Nato defence ministers are today considering the creation of a rapid-response military force to respond to Russian aggression.

The proposal, a compromise dreamed up by the Pentagon to reassure allies, will be under discussion at today’s Nato defence ministers meeting in London.

Britain called that meeting in April to discuss how Nato could be transformed to better address post-Cold War needs. But the creation of such a force would take Nato back to its roots as a deterrent on its own eastern borders after years of expeditionary missions to Kosovo and Afghanistan.

A senior US defence official told the Los Angeles Times that Washington would push for the creation of a small, light defensive force that could be deployed to a threatened member country.



Read more: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4787565.ece
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:25 AM
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1. dreamed up by the Pentagon
:rofl:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:30 AM
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2. Weelease the wapid wesponse fowce!

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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:36 AM
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3. Russian aggression ...that's an old story being dusted off 'cause it's all the status quo has
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:49 AM
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4. World War III anybody?
This is SO insane and totally unnecessary.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:36 AM
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5. If there were a Civil War in Mexico, we could be expected to respond the way Russia did in Georgia.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:47 PM
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9. I doubt it
we aren't currently making any claims on any Mexican Territory.

I'd expect we set up forces to guard against any incursions on to US soil, but we wouldn't go in and annex part of Mexico. And if we did it would be just as wrong as what the Russians did, and I'd fully expect the rest of the world to condemn such actions.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:16 PM
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11. Don't doubt it; it's happened before
And I don't mean the Mexican-American War.

I mean after that.

1913, during the Mexican Revolution:

President Woodrow Wilson, who had taken office in March 1913, declared that "Mexico has no government." When Huerta sent a representative to Washington to negotiate a settlement to the Chamizal dispute, Wilson refused to recognize him as a diplomatic agent of the Mexican government. Huerta, in turn, withdrew recognition of the American ambassador to Mexico and broke off the Chamizal negotiations. Rebel forces attacked the port city of Tampico on April 5. They were repulsed twice by the federal defenders, but on April 9 a group of American sailors was detained temporarily by the federals. The commander of the American naval forces at Tampico demanded a formal apology, which Huerta refused to issue. The locus of the tensions between the two nations shifted south when the United States learned that a ship loaded with weapons for the federals was about to dock at Veracruz. The United States invaded the city on April 21. As Huerta had expected, the invasion of Veracruz led to an outpouring of patriotic sentiment in Mexico, and he hoped for a reconciliation with the revolutionaries to fight the common Yankee enemy.


http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/HH/fhu81.html

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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:50 PM
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13. Nearly
a century ago, and we didn't lay waste to much of the country and annex a significant part of their country. Not an exact analogy.

Plus I'd like to think that world politics has changed slightly since 1913.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:54 PM
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14. Things have changed, yes
As exemplified in Iraq, Cuba, Chile, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Vietnam, Cambodia...

We've come a long way, baby!

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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:37 AM
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6. Stupid fucking idiots, Russian aggression, lets leave out Georgia's intial aggression
from the equation, very convenient.
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bluebutterfly Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:45 AM
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8. A call for independent investigation of Georgia.
Spiegel Online International..Sept. 15..The West Begins to
Doubt Georgian Leader.
spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,578273,00.html
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:30 AM
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7. What the fuck is a small light defensive force supposed to do?
Lead a peaceful non violent demonstration so as the Russians don’t perceive them as a threat and hand them their asses on a platter like they did to the Bush / Cheney backed Georgia junta that brutally attacked the people of South Ossetia? Or maybe it’s just better to have a small light defensive force instantly vaporized because it’s to hard to find a large number of idiots willing to commit mass suicide all at once. Either way I’m sure they will accomplish their goal of spreading fear amongst the naïve and clueless sheep of the world who will beg the barbaric new world order criminal empire to protect them from the evil Russians!


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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 02:22 PM
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10. What cannon fodder usually do.
This is political posturing, it has nothing to do with real military operations.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 05:25 PM
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12. Act as an outrage trigger
Oh look, those meanies are picking on our small light defensive force!
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:57 PM
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15. More Republican Crap
In a world filled with nuclear weapons, they continue escalating conflicts. Why vote for movement towards extinction?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:24 PM
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16. Isn't this the whole point of the NATO alliance?
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 11:25 PM by daleo
"A senior US defence official told the Los Angeles Times that Washington would push for the creation of a small, light defensive force that could be deployed to a threatened member country."

This does raise the point, that an alliance has to be careful to ensure its member countries are worth going to war over. For all the bluster, I doubt even right wing Americans would favor suffering a nuclear holocaust to protect various central Asian republics from Moscow.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:56 AM
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17. NATO should be abolished outright!
It is nothing more than a warmongering organization carrying out imperialist aggression against other states. Remember Yugoslavia?
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