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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:10 AM
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Congress aims to get bailout to Bush by Friday: Senator Schumer
Source: Reuters

Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:06pm EDT

... "The aim is to get this on the president's desk by Friday," Schumer, the chairman of Congress' Joint Economic Committee, said at a news conference.

Schumer said Congress is working with U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson on "filling in the blanks" on the proposed legislation. "A number of options are being considered, including some kind of supervisory authority," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2048185520080920

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2048185520080920



Treasury Seeks Authority to Buy Mortgages Unchecked by Courts
By Alison Fitzgerald and John Brinsley

Sept. 21 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration sought unchecked power from Congress to buy $700 billion in bad mortgage investments from financial companies in what would be an unprecedented government intrusion into the markets ... The bill would prevent courts from reviewing actions taken under its authority ... http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=ae6b6P1L8E_E&ref



Sen. Schumer: US Treasury Plan May Require Overseer
Sat, Sep 20 2008, 20:44 GMT
By Patrick Yoest Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- ... The plan, submitted to Congress this weekend, gives the Treasury secretary authority to buy, sell or hold residential or commercial mortgages, as well as "any securities, obligations or other instruments that are based on or related to such mortgages."

Schumer said legislation creating the authority may also need to create "custodial" powers to ensure that Treasury secretary properly uses his authority, which allows him to buy up to $700 billion in assets.

"One of the things that might be considered is some kind of supervisory authority to make sure that as we go through all this money, it's on the up and up," Schumer said at a news conference.

He would not discuss details of how he would propose the custodial authority should operate ...

http://www.fxstreet.com/news/forex-news/article.aspx?StoryId=c171c684-7e26-4ea2-8e9b-a8a64ffae35f
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:12 AM
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1. There'd better be some "supervisory authority,"
or we're really in trouble. But then I think we're really in trouble no matter what they do. I'm not feeling hopeful.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:13 AM
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2. This thing is way to big to rush through........you have to comb out ALL of the loopholes that the..
Pukes plant.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:48 AM
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32. It's a Katrina part II
Congress frees up tax $ and it gets shoved down the money pit.
They all have 'special interests' on wall street . Lame duck session is now the order of buisness . Besides,Chinese will buy it up lol
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:40 PM
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52. and Iraq, and the Patriot act, and FISA
etc. etc. etc. The Shock Doctrine at work.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:13 AM
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3. How reassuring that "some kind of supervisory authority" "might" be considered.
Why is it always Schumer leading the announcement that Dem "leadership" is puckering up to kiss Bushco's ass yet again. Man, I could really use some CHANGE right about now.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:34 AM
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20. Dems have to be very careful
pointing to this as a Pug crony bailout..

(as linked below)
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/wall-street-shakeup-connects-t.html
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:10 AM
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44. Giving more to Obama will deny you a bailout.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/wall-street-shakeup-connects-t.html

Since the 1990 election, Merrill Lynch's PAC and employees have given $14.7 million to federal candidates, parties and committees. The company leans heavily Republican--64 percent of the brokerage's total donations have gone to GOP candidates and committees. All three of its top recipients have been (or still are) presidential hopefuls this election cycle. Republican John McCain received $394,300 from people associated with Merrill Lynch, making the company his top contributor. Democrat Hillary Clinton collected $290,650, and Barack Obama got $229,100. The company's favorite non-presidential candidate is Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), a member of both the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee and the Senate Finance Committee. He has received $226,150 in this election cycle.
--snip--
This election cycle, Lehman employees have given about $1.3 million to presidential candidates. Only fellow financial giants Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Morgan Stanley have given more to the presidential hopefuls this election cycle. Lehman employees have made their firm one of the top contributors to both Obama ($370,500) and John McCain ($117,500) this election cycle. (For a full list of recipients of Lehman contributions, see this post from Friday.)

Lehman gave more to Obama. No wonder they didn't get bailed-out.
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 11:56 PM
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59. Here's another reason why Lehman didn't get the bailout.
Peter L. Buttenwieser has repeatedly ranked at or near the top of the Mother Jones 400 over the years, using his wealth to support the Democratic Party and its causes. An independent philanthropist with an interest in education, his campaign contributions stem from political, rather than financial, concerns. "I'm not struggling to make a corporation run, and I don't need any clauses written in to any laws," he told USA Today recently. "I just want a balanced, good, centrist, progressive agenda" that includes "abortion rights, gun control, and public education." Buttenwieser has turned down invitations to the White House, the vice president's mansion, congressional retreats at Nantucket and Vail, and rides aboard Air Force One. In 1996, he criticized an offer he received to have lunch with President Clinton in exchange for a $50,000 donation.

An heir to the Lehman Brothers securities fortune, Buttenwieser rejected a career in investment banking or law, earning a doctorate in education from Columbia University and spending 10 years as a school principal in inner-city Philadelphia. He now runs his own education consulting company, Peter L. Buttenwieser and Associates, that reviews inner-city schools and suggests improvements funded by charitable organizations.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/special_reports/mojo_40...

And that's a likely reason why Lehman Brothers was on the Bush sh*t list.

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:13 AM
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4. I don't trust Schumer
Nuf said
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:49 AM
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13. I don't either...He's helped Bush almost as much as McCain has.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:33 AM
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28. Exactly.
He talks but he doesn't walk. It's horrible that he is the best we can count on to protect our interests.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:15 AM
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5. What does Obama have to say about this unseemly haste? He's only running for president after all.
He better have something to say and he better not sell us out like he did on the FISA bill.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:23 AM
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6. No offense, but I don't trust schumer, period. He sold us out with supreme court nominees
and attorney generals, why would I trust him to protect the people's interest in this affair

In fact, I think the companies who gave loans to people who could not afford those loans, should suffer the consequences of those actions, and that means if those bad loans cause those banks to go out of business, so be it

Why should we reward incompentence and bad business practice?


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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:48 AM
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8. His background with the banking crisis in 2007
Government bailout of subprime mortgages

See also: United States housing bubble

Following the meltdown of the subprime mortgage industry in March 2007, Schumer proposed a federal government bailout of subprime borrowers in order to save homeowners from losing their residences.<33> Others are quick to point out that such a "bailout" would primarily benefit lenders and Wall Street bankers, who make large campaign contributions to congressmen;<34> Schumer's top nine campaign contributors are all financial institutions who have contributed over $2.5 million to the senator.<35>

Schumer also proposed that the OFHEO raise Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's conforming loan ("affordable") limits from $417,000 to $625,000, thereby allowing these GSEs to back mortgages on homes prices up to $780,000 with a 20 percent down payment.<36>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Schumer






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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:57 AM
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10. Those homeowners who would have never been given the loans in the first place
twenty years ago because they didn't qualify

Thanks for the link, it just confirmed my suspicions

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 01:21 AM
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11. OPEN Secrets..... who is involved and who to trust
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:37 AM
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21. Attempting to blame the Pugs exclusively for this will bite us in the ass...n/t
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 11:50 AM
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46. thanks!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:27 PM
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58. These reports need to be analyzed CAREFULLY
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 09:36 PM by karynnj
The Republicans have pointed out with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae that Obama and Kerry are big recipients of contributions. Yet on Open Secrets, in their own analysis, they break the numbers down between individuals and the PAC. For the to Democrats, the money is mostly from individual contributions for their Presidential campaigns - neither of them have had fund raising scandals. Looking at the total - not broken down this way is misleading. Both Kerry and Obama have very clean records on lobbyists and PACs.

In addition, they are using both John and Teresa Kerry's assets - they are separate on the Senate forms In 2004, much was made of how separate they were and Republicans watched like hawks to insure that he didn't use her assets. Now, he seems to held responsible for all her assets. She has stock in many many companies. There is NOTHING to suggest that Kerry has ever been quilty of quid por quo. (His own assets are in a blind trust)
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:17 AM
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19. Exactly
Many people think that a 80% first mortgage, 20% second mortgage, amortized over 40 years, with interest only payments for the first 10 years is the norm. 20 years ago you had to have good credit to get an 80% mortgage, you couldn't exceed 35%of your income with long term debt, you couldn't borrow the 20% down, you couldn't be gifted the 20% down, you had to demonstrate you earned the down payment or it had to be in your account for a year prior to the purchase. In short you had to work hard and commit to buy a house, and every parent who has given things to their kids with no commitment from them knows, commitment is key to responsibility. The banking industry knew that they were heading for a fall so they accelerated the writing of bad loans to the point that they would have to be bailed out when the train wreck occurred.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:04 AM
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35. Sure borrowers share in the responsibility
But when hard working Americans see significant increases in the cost of living, it doesn't make sense to me to argue, beating down the consumer with obnoxious inflation, without appropriate pay increase and then blaming the consumer for not being able to make ends meet and falling into finacial ruin.

Many corporations can and do get out of paying taxes and file bankrupcy protection much more than the legal amount.

The bailout is the bush administration and the Washington K Street GoodFellas saying "Fuck You Pay Me!"
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:41 AM
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7. unchecked by congress?
um, NO WAY.

ENOUGH OF THAT.

this needs to happen w/i the constitution with checks and balances. PERIOD.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:56 AM
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9. It's never a do-nothing Congress when they want to pass a bad bill
nt
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 02:48 AM
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12. I'm telling you, if the DEMS are not in charge of this, everyone in America is SCREWED RED.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:13 AM
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17. Agreed big time. We can't let this happen. nt
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:48 AM
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14. Dem collaborators driving the gettaway car...
for the last big heist.
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:44 AM
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15. Debt - 596 Trillion Derivatives - 58 Trillion Credit Default Swaps - 2.5 Trillion Credit Card
Why Are we Giving 700B Golden Parachutes To Bush's Friends?

Senator Schumer frankly needs his head examined!

See www.wallstreetdigest.com/hotline.php for numbers.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:04 AM
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16. Sounds like
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 06:43 AM by pipoman
they are friends of the good Senator from NY too...


Others are quick to point out that such a "bailout" would primarily benefit lenders and Wall Street bankers, who make large campaign contributions to congressmen;<34> Schumer's top nine campaign contributors are all financial institutions who have contributed over $2.5 million to the senator.
(from above)
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:59 AM
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24. Even Carl Icahn commented on that
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:04 AM
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26. EBITDAT - Says It All
Earnings before interest, taxation, depreciation, amortization and THEFT.

Debt - 596 Trillion Derivatives - 58 Trillion Credit Default Swaps - 2.5 Trillion Credit Card

How much more theft can we tolerate?
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 11:53 AM
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47. In order to have Sen Schumer's head examined,
you'd have to send him to a proctologist!:rofl:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:17 AM
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18. ah, how nice of the dem congress to quickly give the monkey boy whatever he asks for
no matter the consequences.

Thanks, dem leadership, for contributing to the downfall of our republic. :grr: :argh:
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:41 AM
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22. Follow the money
the Dem congress is almost as heavily invested in this as the pugs...not to mention the 401(k) and retirement accounts of nearly every working American..
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:53 AM
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23. the irony, of course, being
that their decision to do this will ultimately make those 401k accounts worthless.

If you've got 100k in your 401k, and a whole chicken costs $1000, it's not going to get you very far. Just sayin... :hi:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:02 AM
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25. Why are the tax payers treated like third world citizen's?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:30 AM
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27. Because we are not a corporation with hundreds of lobbists
We are just ones who get left to inconsequential detail of voting them back in there :sarcasm:
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:56 AM
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64. and assuming the debt they saddle us with n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:37 AM
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29. Dear Chuck, Please slip a provision into the bill that would
give healthcare to my family. We need it very badly and it would be a mere $20,000 (including deductibles and co-pays) a year. Chump change by Washington standards. It's not like I'm requesting some kind of multimillion dollar golden parachute for flushing a corporation down the toilet. All the best, V.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:38 AM
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30. Gee, it's too bad that REAL legislation like Universal Healthcare cannot be rammed like this...
"...by Friday."

:rofl:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:41 AM
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31. Congress controls the purse strings. They are very generous with my tax $ being used to bail out TH
Don't ya think ?

Lucky for them people will never remember this part of the bailout.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:51 AM
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33. Hey Schumer how'd that Mukasey thing work out for us?
Schumer is a joke.
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MsLeopard Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #33
53. Exactly
and how's that John Roberts and Samuel Alito sh*t working out for you, Chuck? He makes me sick.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:58 AM
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34. Welfare for Wall Street.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:08 AM
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36. DING DING DING
R-oyal W-elfare for Wall Street
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:16 AM
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37. Wait a Fuking Minute
You mean to tell me that the FED, having already injected nearly $2 TRILLION over the past YEAR into the financial market, to help support the very corporations that are on the verge of collapse, We, The American People are asked to Bailout these very same corporations to the tune of $1.4 TILLION additional dollars...!!!!! WHoa, Whoa WTF are you Kidding ME!!!!!! What the Fuk did theses corporations do with all that damn money the FED has been pumping into the system over the past year....!!!

There is no way the American People are that damn stupid..... Right?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:20 AM
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38. Right. There is no way (some 75%+ of) the American People are...


How come??
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:27 AM
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42. That is precisely the problem!
Good Pic...


THis is the equivent of the "Weapons of Mass Distruction" argument...

Who's buying this one...


RobinHood in reverse priorities...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:40 AM
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39. How Much Did Chuckie Get For His Hedge Fund Buddies?
Chuckie Schumer has been a tireless advocate for hedge fund managers, fighting hard so that they can continue to pay ta at half the rate of the average American. I can't wait to see how he'll help his buddies this time!
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:28 AM
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45. Where is Obama on this?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:40 AM
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40. Fuck You Schumer, you DLC Puke!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:54 AM
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41. so we are trying for energy independence for foreign oil only to be replaced buy
dependance on the foreign currency. Where do you think all this money is going to come from?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:55 AM
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43. this is not what i wanted to hear
from congress, not by a long shot. the bailout proposed based on what i've been reading is a total loss for america.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:09 PM
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48. Disaster capitalism/shock doctrine at work
Engineer the financial equivalent of 9/11, panic the masses, push through legislation that gives control of the country's banking institutions to the Bush administration in order to "protect" the taxpayers (with no oversight). GAME, SET, MATCH. COUP COMPLETED!:grr: :nuke:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:17 PM
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49. That God-Damned Shumer!
Hasn't he damaged this country enough?
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:35 PM
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51. I knew that when it came time to bend over for Bush, Chuck would be first in line
He never fails to disappoint. And he's a fucking tool.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 12:18 PM
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50. fascism
can we call it that yet?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:24 PM
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54. WARNING: This is the same Chuck Schumer that gave the green light to Mulkesey for AG
Schumer and DiFi gave Mulkesey a pass on torture, and they now wonder why the Attorney General they helped put in office has now refused to honor Congressional subpoenas.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:35 PM
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55. this was plannd
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 07:37 PM by KakistocracyHater
thread was removed & I thought I had said this elsewhere but I'l repeat it again (since I am fluish & my mind is a bit fuzzy where DID I say this?):blush: Remove CEO position totally & CFO too, let the board decide take CEOs & CFOs place & steer co. as a group, democratically, & tie remaing execs to the bottom-most workers pay & benefits so execs are not able to be payed 300 times what their workers make(also with health care for life for wives/children/husbands, & if it's not for life take that part as analogy.

Invert mortagage payments so Principle is now the bigger payment & interest is smaller. Immediately get the back taxes due (records of some of which went up in smoke on a September day) they do to people, what are they gonna do-offshore?}(

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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:16 PM
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56. I agree was planned
and if bush is behind any bailout plan is should spell f-u-c-k-e-d to any thinking person
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btpull1 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:24 PM
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57. The same Wall Street firms will Repurchase the mortgages
Once the losses have been adsorbed by the taxpayers. The same Wall Street firms will repurchase the mortgages for dimes on the dollar making billions more in the process. Face it we are getting scammed from both the left and the right.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:01 AM
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60. I don't trust Shumer and any time Dems "rush" to do something Bushies want, we get screwed
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:18 AM
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61. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
No bailout at all is my preference, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO blank check! How could this doofus not recall the last times we rushed and got the Patriot Act and an Iraq war!

What do you call doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? INSANITY!
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:50 AM
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62. Schumer early yesterday proposed an interim $150B plan for until January
when the new President takes office, but seems it was a non-starter. Worse yet this says that they have not changed the purchases to equity, and are still planning to buy worthless paper. Where's Obama's "taxpayers have to have some guarantees that they will also share in the up side" now? Keep calling Congress to switch what Treasury is allowed to buy. That will have more impact than just saying no bailout.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:54 AM
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63. I feel absolutely sick
that they will agree to saddle us and the next how ever many generations with this debt. How was $700B arrived at? Who did the math? What does it include? What evidence do we have that bailouts work? Why not start with $50 billion and see if there is any improvement? Why not make a profit and not just take toxic debt? Wouldn't it be nice if the government could issue dividends to the citizens they expect to foot the bill? We should all share in the profits if we have to assume debt that isn't ours.
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