CIA Tactics Endorsed In Secret Memos-Waterboarding Got White House Nod

Source: Washington Post

CIA Tactics Endorsed In Secret Memos
Waterboarding Got White House Nod

The Bush administration issued a pair of secret memos to the CIA in 2003 and 2004 that explicitly endorsed the agency's use of interrogation techniques such as waterboarding against al-Qaeda suspects -- documents prompted by worries among intelligence officials about a possible backlash if details of the program became public.

The classified memos, which have not been previously disclosed, were requested by then-CIA Director George J. Tenet more than a year after the start of the secret interrogations, according to four administration and intelligence officials familiar with the documents. Although Justice Department lawyers, beginning in 2002, had signed off on the agency's interrogation methods, senior CIA officials were troubled that White House policymakers had never endorsed the program in writing.

The memos were the first -- and, for years, the only -- tangible expressions of the administration's consent for the CIA's use of harsh measures to extract information from captured al-Qaeda leaders, the sources said. As early as the spring of 2002, several White House officials, including then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and Vice President Cheney, were given individual briefings by Tenet and his deputies, the officials said. Rice, in a statement to congressional investigators last month, confirmed the briefings and acknowledged that the CIA director had pressed the White House for "policy approval."



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/14/AR2008101403331.html?hpid=topnews

Just means Obama can do it if he feels like it.

...of Cheney and Bush, then discontinue the policy.

:patriot:

You have coddled the criminals, and one day all of us will pay the price.

With the exception of Kucinich, the Democrats won't line these bastards up for some "please raise your right hand" Q&A.

We have a war criminal executive and America is A-OK with that

It's torture you nimwits!

and will continue to do so

And as always, my government is welcomed to prove me wrong anytime it feels like it

... If this doesn't bring people to their feet... I don't know what will....

If they aren't, this will happen again in America.

The Cheney administration probably plastered on the immunity with its own memos from Bush that preclude a US indictement, let alone prosecution.


What nation on earth can push its force of will into an international arrest warrant that a majority of other nations would recognize and enforce?

The take away lesson on this one is gonna be the awful lesson of civilized behavior melting under bare naked power--get enoough power and you can be brazen enough to do anything.

:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sorry ... I couldn't keep a straight face!

On July 1, the International Criminal Court opened its doors for business in The Hague. President Bush has made clear that he wants no part of it.

Indeed, the Bush administration feels so strongly about this issue that the United States is insisting that before any American troops are assigned to peacekeeping missions, there must be immunity from World Court prosecution - not only for the soldiers but also for all the policymakers involved in committing the soldiers.

-snip

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20020705.html

Don't you like his excuse that he was protecting "peace keeping troop"?

Bush reads his Bible every day so it's okay to do as he pleases.

GOP/PNAC/NeoCON "Morality and Family Values" are about like the Morality and Family Values the GESTAPO displayed.

He's John McCain and he approved of this madness, after he was against it.

Source: Reuters, via Yahoo

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration explicitly endorsed the use of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods against al Qaeda suspects in a pair of secret memos to the CIA in 2003 and 2004, The Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

The previously undisclosed classified memos were requested by then CIA Director George Tenet more than a year after the start of the secret interrogations, the newspaper reported, citing administration and intelligence officials familiar with the documents.

A White House spokesman had no comment on the report.

According the newspaper, intelligence officials sought cover from the White House because they were worried about a possible backlash if details of the interrogation program became public.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081015/us_nm/us_security_interrogation_memos;_ylt=AjrJr2agYkjWCwUS3lHyJE2s0NUE

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I wonder why this came out in the middle of the night?

Or horrified? The fact is, this administration has made the horrifying the mundane. Things that at one time would have the citizenry screaming in the streets and demanding justice have become ho-hum. But really, does anyone think these things haven't been going on forever? That this is all new and unprecedented? Hell, no. It's just that you are not supposed to be so blatant and obvious about it. They have been like the most inept serial killer ever that keeps getting away with it, fingerprints and blood everywhere.

A further shock would be if any of our fearless leaders did anything about it. I guess I'll call mine, for all the good it will do.

America TORTURES people.

So much for the "moral high road" and being "better than Saddam Hussein".

Bush knew this the whole while he was lying and lying and lying!! Why isn't his support below 5 percent? Probably because of all the LIES!

...So....

Nancy, you need to be investigated!! Are your husband's business dealings profiting from Bush's crimes?

I think the Clintons have been woven into the web also. Too cozy to the Republicans for me .

...in the Senate, the GOP did nothing to unseat her. On the night of the NYS primaries, it was reported that 80 districts went without a single vote for Obama. How could we believe that not one person in Harlem, NY voted for Obama.

Once sniper-gate happened, the power brokers dropped Hillary and put all their support toward McCain.

Take McSame with them too!

Inhuman bastards one and all!

President Bush has granted himself sweeping new powers, (aided and abetted by a cowed congress)The first combat team of the Third Brigade has now been deployed in the United States ("Posse Comitatus, we don't need no stinkin' Posse Comitatus) Osama Bin Laden was allowed to run free; free to pursue more adventures in Terrorism, and it looks as if we might soon elect an honorable, law-abiding president.
Just how frightened might the Bush administration be of being jailed for promoting torture? Frightened enough to give us an "October Surprise" that would be the Mother of all October Surprises?
I'm Mark. Be sure to stop by and say hello. I'll be in the "Freedom Security Camp No. 7"

I sincerely hope that's a joke.

Source: Washington Post

The Bush administration issued a pair of secret memos to the CIA in 2003 and 2004 that explicitly endorsed the agency's use of waterboarding and other interrogation techniques against al-Qaeda suspects -- documents prompted by worries among intelligence officials about a possible backlash if details of the program became public.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/14/AR2008101403331.html?hpid=topnews

these people to allow their lowest animal superiority instincts to reign terror on these people who were yanked out of their homes on a fishing expedition or because a neighbor got a bounty for reporthing phony suspisions to the U.S. Government leaders and military services.

The International Criminal Court exists because of people like them!

The International Criminal Court is located in the Palace of Peace in the Hague


I am sure they will have a great deal to discuss with them


It also has its own prison


Hope they are prepared for a long stay, because the ICC doesn't take Presidential pardons.

Are you getting any of this, Nancy? You said you'd impeach if someone showed you a crime Bush and Cheney committed. Well, there it is!

Nancy? Are you still there?

"If the American people ever find out what the Bush family has done to this country, they would take us all out and hang us from the nearest lamp post"

So I guess he knows and is hoping we don't find out.

The Bush family has been a cancer on the American body politic for generations. Time for a radical Bushectomy to save our nation.

suppose. Now when are the trials for war crimes?

I see that Democratic Underground is now altering the timestamps and dates of OPs and post commenters.

veracity Oct-15-08 06:14 AM #26
higher class Oct-15-08 06:14 AM #27
SimpleTrend Oct-15-08 06:14 AM #28
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I know that I commented last night on that thread, that in my timezone, was Oct 14, late in the evening. Also note how many people allegedly commented at the exact same time and date. I also recall those posts happening over several hours.

I guess that since timezones and dates are a legal matter, I wonder what the implications are for moderators altering post times and dates? It may be preferable for the entire OP and posts to simply be deleted, rather than to claim they occurred at a time and date when they, in fact, did not. Besides that data becoming "a lie", it also seems rather fantastic. It creates a history that did not, in fact, occur as claimed.

Oliver Stone is soooo pissed right now! Why didn't this come out before he made "W."?!

so what's the beef? :sarcasm:

DOTH THIS MEAN THAT THE BLESSINGS OF H2O BOARDING ART ALSO APPROVED BY
MERCIFUL GOD (the JewdeoJescusian version)
AND HIS WRATHFUL ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WHO ART IN HEAVEN??

Are you there, God? It's me, Mar--glug! Glug! Mmmrph!! Help! Glug! Glug!!

She will give these traitors the justice they deserve:


Vermont AG candidate says she would prosecute Bush for murder

A local candidate in Vermont has promised to charge and prosecute President Bush for murder if elected as that state's attorney general.

The Associated Press reports that Charlotte Dennett, who's running on the Progressive Party ticket to be Vermont's Attorney General, promised to appoint a special prosecutor to bring charges holding Bush accountable for the deaths of more than 4,000 troops in Iraq.

Dennet, speaking at a press conference in Burlington this week, said she would appoint Vincent Bugliosi as a special prosecutor in the case. A former Los Angeles County district attorney who was in charge of Charles Manson's murder case, Bugliosi has outlined his strategy against the president in his recent book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.

"Someone has to step forward," Dennett said at a news conference with Bugliosi, according to AP. "Someone has to say we cannot put up with this lack of accountability any more."

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Vermont_AG_candidate_says_she_would_0919.html

probably ran the JFK coup -- which was basically a coup on US government --

and is a vile and corrupt murderous outfit --

Torture vs sex, torture will always win.

I won't hold my breath.

You young 'uns may not remember back to a time when one of America's high ideals was: "No one is above the law." Then Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon. Haven't heard anyone say "No one is above the law" since then. What a statement of our dedication to justice it would be to send George W. Bush from the White House to the Big House.

But I just don't think it will happen. I have a feeling President Obama will try to strike a tone of reconciliation and cooperation with the Republicans after the election. And letting George Walker Bush off with no more than a stern warning might be part of that.

Now that would be NEWS!

tribunal investigating Bush's war crimes might be interested. Who could head such a panel? I nominate Hugo Chavez--not that my nomination means anything