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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:48 PM
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Utah Ten Commandments case goes before high court
Edited on Tue Nov-11-08 08:48 PM by struggle4progress
Source: The Salt Lake Tribune

Article Launched: 11/11/2008 05:43:49 PM MST

WASHINGTON - ... The dispute erupted after Pleasant Grove allowed one group to post a stone tablet of the Ten Commandments in the city's Pioneer Park. A Salt Lake City-based spiritual group called Summum then tried to post a marker of its own guiding principles, but the Utah County city refused.

On Wednesday, the justices will take up the standoff in a case that could set the standard for how cities across the nation deal with religious monuments and symbols in public squares ...

Pleasant Grove argues that permitting Summum .. to erect its monument could force other cities either to put up any and all proposed markers or potentially toss their own memorials, tablets and statues.

Summum counters that the city cannot discriminate against some religious symbols. If Pleasant Grove allows the Ten Commandments, the group says, the city must also permit the Seven Aphorisms, a list of principles that includes vibration, rhythm, and cause and effect that the group believes Moses also obtained on Mount Sinai ...

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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:56 PM
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1. WTF are ANY symbols of private religious belief allowed on government property?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:07 PM
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2. Haven't you heard? We're a Christian nation--just like how the Founders intended.
It's so clearly laid out in the Treaty of Tripoli. John Adams signed it and the Senate ratified it.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...

Oh...wait. I guess we're not a Christian nation.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:24 PM
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3. wait...my turn... a pray to 3 dildos and a bucket of cat urine..can i set something up in the park ?
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MJJP21 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:26 PM
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4. Let them
post the ten commandments as long as they post the biblical punishments that go along with them. In just about all cases the punishment is death. Lets see just how loyal these bible bangers are when they contemplate stoning to death their children for back talk.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:51 PM
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7. Let's Not Go There — Some of them Would Actually Do It
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:31 PM
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5. There's one way to solve the Ten Commandments Monument problem
Someone needs to send a nice anonymous e-mail to Fred Phelps explaining there's a Ten Commandments monument in a public park in Utah. Phelps will show up with the Matthew Shepard Monument in the back of his beat-up pickup. He will tell the city that because there's a Ten Commandments Monument in the town square, he has every right to install the Matthew Shepard Monument. (If you haven't seen it, it says Matthew Shepard's in hell because he was gay and God hates that.) The mayor of Pleasant Grove will then use the city-owned Bobcat to remove the Ten Commandments Monument from the town square.

So long as Fred Phelps and Bobcats are around, no city need suffer the eternal torment caused by a Graven Idol in the shape of the Ten Commandments.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:48 PM
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6. Its like an Old Testament story... nt
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