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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 10:46 PM Original message |
Prisoners have no right to hot meals, appeal court says |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Poor friggin' babies want to be spoon fed TOO? |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. My Ruthug friend doesn't think the Red Cross should serve hot meals either. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. 'warm' is close enough to 'hot'. |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. It isn't "coddling" prisoners, but yeah your impassionate attitude |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
66. So not serving criminals three hot meals a day is stripping them of their dignity? |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:28 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. No, but saying they deserve just bread and water is. Which is in what that was a response too. nt |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:36 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Just making sure. |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
80. Wake Up...... |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I don't recall saying nursing home care is passionate and selfless either. huh. nt |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
163. Hi there, posting from work! |
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amdezurik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. the issue is responsibility |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
91. No it has to do with an underlying respect for all humans. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
100. You seem very cruel. Prisoners are people. But besides that, warm food induces both a |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-30-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
205. When the food that is prepared "hot" and is "luke warm" or cold |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Your post leads me to believe one of three things. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Amazing how the LOVE flows around here |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Well said. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I'm a recent repeat offender of cell phone use while driving, failure to wear a seatbelt while...... |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. What's pathetic is that it had to be taken to court in the first place. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
67. What are the temperature regulations for a bologna sandwich? |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #67 |
94. The same as for any food consumed by humans: |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. I doubt it takes four hours for the food to get from the kitchen to the cells |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. Notice the word "cumulative". |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #113 |
188. It doesn't but... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. If stale bread and warm water works for you then feel free to eat it. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I'll bet no one died from 'it' and no one even got sick either. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. So your mindset is we should wait till someone does die. Gotcha. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
97. a recent report stated that 1 out of every 100 people has sociopathic tendancies... |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #31 |
58. That's the same reasoning... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
155. From food poisoning? |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #31 |
175. You are mistaken. |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
106. You can just bond-out. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
90. Or you are a CINO, Christian In Name Only. nm |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #90 |
112. no I am not. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
114. We're talking prison, not jail |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #114 |
134. They're still human beings. |
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MontyZuma (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
182. Thank You. |
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Supply Side Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 04:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
196. If you are in Pelican Bay |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Amnesty International has had to campaign for the abuse of people in our prision systems |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Yeah, thanks to heartless pricks like the guy above. |
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JDwho (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
146. Well said!!! It freaks me out that any one would agree with inhumane treatment. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
161. Agreed, debbierlus. Well said. n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. My oh my, I have republican friends with more compassion than you. nm |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #46 |
105. I am with the OP on this. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. We have more people in prison than anywhere else in the world. The majority of prisoners are in for |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. They have it nice............I find their care amazingly humane as well. |
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Shardik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #111 |
159. I'm guessing you have never done time. Or are you speaking from experience? |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #105 |
110. If even one has promise, then it's worth the time and effort |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
128. I'll Let my Brother Know That |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
164. Let me guess |
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MontyZuma (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:34 AM Response to Reply #105 |
181. I'm sure you know all about viciousness VeraAgnes |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. So all those nonviolent drug offenders who never harmed others - fuck them too? |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
73. Clever retort, very clever. PART OF ANY PRISON IS MEANT TO |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
78. They can use a microwave, get commissary etc... |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Again, one has nothing to do with the other...two separate problems. |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #83 |
95. Are you an inmate lover? |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. I challenge you to listen to the following show, and not get choked up: |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. I'm very sure I would not choke-up over an inmate. |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #102 |
107. I guess it takes a heart to care for your fellow human beings, no matter what their circumstances. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #95 |
131. "inmate lover" |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
133. "inmate lover"? Interesting choice of words there. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. I challenge you to make a visit to your local county lock-up and then |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #87 |
96. Inmates are assholes. |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. The alternative is that not attempting to rehabilitate, such that |
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VeraAgnes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. There is not enough money, personnel or time to fix them. |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. If there's enough money to bail out those criminals at the top |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #103 |
135. There's definitely a lost soul in all of this. |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
127. you have to admit a large percentage enjoys the criminal lifestyle. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #127 |
137. I think you've watch "Bonnie & Clyde" too many times. |
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RattusRattus (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #96 |
132. Logically |
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JDwho (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #96 |
147. Does that include Guantanamo inmates? Or just all others...jeez |
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LeftofU (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #96 |
162. Prison guards are much worse.... |
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MontyZuma (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 04:12 AM Response to Reply #96 |
179. Hey, what goes around comes around. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
116. He certainly wasn't coddled... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
153. You obviously know nothing about |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
129. Wow...Adopt a pet but FUCK the humans? Nice priorities pal... |
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Truth Teller (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
209. Bread and water will not sustain them well |
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Fed_Up_Grammy (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. I can't even remember when I had 2 hot meals a day. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Is that by choice or necessity? |
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Fed_Up_Grammy (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. By choice. I assume most folks have a quick,cold breakfast or |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I think you missed the point... |
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Fed_Up_Grammy (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Why on earth would that choice even be necessary? |
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amdezurik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. and when the Innocence Project |
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Fed_Up_Grammy (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Where on earth did THAT come from? We were talking about |
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amdezurik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
122. no we are talking about treating prisoners humanely |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Would you want to eat cold 'mystery meat'? |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. thankyou last1standing! |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. You assume they would bother to send them to the medical clinic. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
75. 165 degrees. |
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Shoelace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #38 |
171. they don't get good medical care when they get sick, at least not in FL. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
115. The ambient air temperature there is often 50 degrees or colder |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. And, according to Food Safety personnel |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Yeah you did miss the point.. |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Not extended to prisoners.... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. You should look at prison statistics sometime. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
76. Health codes encompass all public venues. |
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Dirigo (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Let 'em eat cake |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Typical conservative thinking - wow, haha our servicemen blah blah blah |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
47. Curious, are you a Christian?? You sound like a republican. No offense. nm |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Sounds like a lot of christians, too. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
104. which is unsurprising, |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
60. That's not the issue. The issue is whether the prison management |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
77. Whoa |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
148. Did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. Having the ability to choose what you'd like to eat each day is nice, isn't it? |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. Why would the food have to be hot or cooked? |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Interesting. I read an article recently that said human's brains evolved |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Possibly true, but |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
65. What about the Aquatic Ape Theory (AAT)? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
61. That's not what the court was deciding. Whether the hot food |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
119. I don't know if this is EXACTLY how it's done there |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Have you ever worked in a big kitchen before? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #119 |
169. Hot plates under the trays or warming cushions around the trays. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #169 |
170. One thing to remember: |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #119 |
195. They manage it in hospitals. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. Good |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Don't go visit 'em either? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. MISLEADING HEADLINE, |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
33. Bwaahahahaa! |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I always say there's no better way to run a penal system than by personal revenge. |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. oh, there's so much more I would do to him if given the chance, |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Do you ever think a day will come when you will wish someone cared about you? |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I can only be as "sensitive" as my own survival allows |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I hope you get the help you need. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
136. Deleted message |
last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. You got that out of my post? |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. just remember, |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I actually left on my own... |
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Sivafae (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Well...revenge is a dish best served...cold |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
63. If you let it turn you into a bitter person who doesn't care about anyone else |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. "Could care less" eh? Well that's good to think you care a tiny bit. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
121. I think a lot of people here need to be reminded that prisoners |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
37. they're getting more sadistic now |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
92. Are you speaking form experience? n/t |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #92 |
176. huh |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
43. incarceration is THE PENALTY... |
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trollybob (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
48. what do they care? |
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ksimons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
49. our military has suffered worse in the field, and yet prisoners try to be coddled. Blah |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Your reasoning is worthy of the free republic as is your compassion. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #49 |
79. It a public health issue |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
89. You don't know shit. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #49 |
93. Our troops should be treated well and that is not happening |
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duhneece (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
208. Wrong |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
53. Holding food |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
59. If the court does not have the right to enforce the department's |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Hmm...I'm assuming the JD doesn't mean you're a lawyer. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
168. You are right about the agency rules -- but agency decisions can be challenged. |
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hbskifreak (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
64. bologna |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-16-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
207. What's your opinion on Sheriff Joe? -nt |
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insidejoke (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
70. Instead of Treating Them with Decency for the First Time in Their Lives... |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #70 |
84. Good post nt |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
85. Thank you! |
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Shoelace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #70 |
173. "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons." |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
71. Great article for bringing out the worst in all of us. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Not all of us. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
74. Health codes |
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Arkplayer (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #74 |
86. 165 Degrees |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
123. Common sense! |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
130. OK |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
141. See my post about holding food upthread. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
193. Many restaurants serve cold sandwiches |
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comtec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
81. The original point of a prison was self betterment - what happened to rehabilitation? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
125. Short-timers are not held in this unit at Pelican Bay |
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comtec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 03:06 AM Response to Reply #125 |
178. well then, nvm :) |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
88. People who have never been in prison have no idea of the importance |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
98. The core problem is there are too many people in prison who don't belong there |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
120. They should never have a TV, let alone cable TV. The system is to soft, IMHO. |
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ThePowerofWill (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #120 |
184. You are full of shit, and don't know what the fuck you are talking about! |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
126. And after the first couple of prison riots, what then? |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #126 |
144. Look, prison is way to soft. I had a person in my taxi once tell me they missed jail. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
138. Private prison companies cutting corners to try to make a fast buck. (nt) |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
139. How many prison riots started becaue the food was too good? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
142. Human beings should be treated humanely. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #142 |
150. Even those who wantonly treated others inhumanely in the first place? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #150 |
158. How a society treats its lowest members says a lot about it.. |
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mikita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
143. some of the remarks in this thread leave me speechless... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
145. As antisocial as I can be toward people, |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. Decent food, I'll agree. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
149. How about 'too hot'? Keep them in the microwave for 20 minutes... that'll be hot. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
152. As Doestoyevsky said, you can see how advanced a society is by looking at their prisions. |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
154. US Constitution - no cruel or unusual punishment. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. Give me a break. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Torture may be too strong but it is cruel. |
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zelta gaisma (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
160. Safe Food Rules.. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
165. Wow, I thought I was on Free Republic for a moment, |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Not to seem insensitive |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. I'm ok with giving death row imates bread and water once a day....unless they really are innocent |
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JDwho (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #167 |
174. Someone close to me, who spent time in prison... |
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Kurska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
172. Cold food means it was sitting around for awhile |
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Arkplayer (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
177. Pelican Bay |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #177 |
185. The suit was pretty obviously about ... |
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Arkplayer (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #185 |
191. The suit |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Glad to agree... |
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Arkplayer (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #194 |
200. Reasonable |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 03:59 AM Response to Reply #200 |
201. Reasonable people think its a 'crock'. |
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MontyZuma (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
180. There's more here than meets the eye |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
183. This thread is sad |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #183 |
187. Yes, many Americans are shamed by our criminal justice system... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #187 |
189. You wrote: |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. The economy collapses.. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
186. deleted by author |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
192. Prison should be an unpleasant place prisoners do not want to return to |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #192 |
197. they live better then most third world citizens. they should be thankful for that...... |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. you're joking.... is that how they do it in ohio? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #199 |
202. Are you actually that clueless |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-28-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
198. I guess some people on this thread just don't get the concept of human rights |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #198 |
203. Human rights? |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-29-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. You persist... |
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