Three near-invisible drawings discovered on back of Da Vinci masterpiece

Source: TimesOnline

The mystery is set in the Louvre and the clues are hidden behind a 16th-century masterpiece by Leonardo da Vinci. Remind you of anything?

Lovers of Dan Brown novels will be salivating at the discovery of three previously unknown drawings on the back of one of Leonardo’s major works. A curator spotted the sketches on the back of The Virgin and Child with Saint Anne when it was taken down in September for restoration.

Sylvain Laveissière pointed out some grey marks that had previously been dismissed as stains. To him they resembled a horse’s head and a human skull.

When the painting was photographed with an infra-red camera at the Centre for Research and Restoration of the Museums of France, he was proved right. On the wood on which the work was mounted was an 18cm by 10cm (7in by 4in) equine head and a 16.5cm by 10cm skull, complete with orbital and nasal cavities, jaw and teeth. The camera detected a third drawing, a 15cm-high infant Jesus with a lamb, which was invisible to the naked eye.



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his lineage could mean more than crap to me. Nice detective work though. Kudos to them.

:hi:

Many families have claimed royalty thru a god ancestor. Do THEIR lineages mean something to you?

I didn't mean that I'd join the nearest church by any means. But, it would interest me if there was actually a descendant of a cold and heartless creator living amongst us. Of course, it may just be the history teacher in me.

:evilgrin:

the only kind ALLOWED on DU, a reason to crawl out of the woodwork with their nasty, denigrating, snotty, troublemaking crap.

Amazing.

I've said all along that religion doesn't cause people to do screwed up things - man does. The average DU atheist only proves to me that it doesn't take any religion at all to be an intolerant bigot.

we have free will. God has no claim on the shit we do. We *chose* it and we let it happen or not. That is our burden. Amazing how some aetheists here claim their is no god but chuck every ill at his feet.

some people think only religious people can be callously demeaning and bigoted of others views.

People questioning something is not bigotry. People not believing in fantasy stories is not bigotry. People spouting hatred, say of athiests, for example is bigotry.

n/t

The only example of someone spouting hatred that I saw was not from an athiest..

hatred, it means intolerance. In this case going out of ones way to belittle the beliefs of others even though the OP is about art, an artist, a 500 year old new discovery.

Intolerance means:

# impatience with annoyances; "his intolerance of interruptions"
# unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# intolerant - unwilling to tolerate difference of opinion
# intolerant - illiberal: narrow-minded about cherished opinions
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# intolerantly - in an intolerant manner
# intolerantly - in a narrow-minded manner; "his illiberally biased way of thinking"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

# intolerant - Unable or indisposed to tolerate, endure or bear; Not tolerant; close-minded about new or different ideas. ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intolerant

an attitude of not accepting or respecting different opinions, practices, or people
www.umw.edu/bias/terms/default.php

The bold emphasis is mine.

Shit, no believers were attacked period.

then conversely, the reverse is true.

NT!

I love how the "believers" get their panties in a twad when their "belief" is under attack...


I thought that was the whole point? nobody can shake your "faith"


Can't you just laugh it off? here...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

shitheads are really pitiful. Shake what off. The fact that you asswipes can't even hold a thought long enough to zap off a thread that's on target, not some shit dredged up out of your nastiness little prejudices?

Like I said, the topic was on 3 newly discovered drawings by Da Vinci. Only bigots and asswipes would turn it into a rant against religion.

you made me laugh again today :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

NT!

BTW, who in their right mind could actually be "against religion"? Maybe choose not to believe, or against hypocrisy, or against zealotry but against religion? Really?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=K3a&q=define%3Abigot&btnG=Search

Definitions of bigot on the Web:

a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

One strongly loyal to one's own social group, and irrationally and prejudicially intolerant or disdainful of others
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bigot

bigoted - blindly and obstinately attached to some creed or opinion and intolerant toward others; "a bigoted person"; "an outrageously bigoted point of view"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Narrow minded or prejudice in your beliefs.
www.godonthe.net/dictionary/b.html

a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
acaclassof2010studyguides.blogspot.com/2007/10/sat-vocabulary-word-list-updated.html

bigotry - Intolerance toward those of different creeds or religious affiliations.
www.njfreemason.net/masonic%20dictionary.htm

bigotry - is prejudice or an intolerance toward people who are different in appearance or viewpoint.
highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/dl/free/0073531936/399662/Feldman8_esl_mod44.doc

Bigotry describes attitudes of intolerance towards people, behaviours, and personal attributes. Bigotry constitutes "active" expression of prejudiced belief systems.
earnsupport.com/Glossary.html

big·ot (bĭg'ət) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.



Oh well, I guess it was your day to be DU Dunce.

"religious bigot"
"nasty, denigrating, snotty, troublemaking crap"


'Tis a lovely religion. :eyes:

Man, some of you believers are way too in love with your persecution complexes.

Sorry kids, Josephus' "mention" of him was a forgery!

how many on this forum found the reports of Korans being put in a toilet and walked on to be criminal, reprehensible, and wrong...which I tend to agree with (with the exception of criminal maybe), yet tolerate and participate in similar activity right here on this board when it involves Christianity. Further, to take even the most obscure opportunity to denigrate other people's beliefs indicates to me a truly pathetic, intolerant existence. Obviously art appreciation isn't one of your interests.

Dumping Koran's in the toilet was meant to anger people. This thread, located in a public forum, expressing personal belief directed at no one, does not do that.

and would obviously be offensive to Christians. There seem to be plenty of flame bait religious threads here for that, why pollute a thread about art with divisive religion bashing?

of it for 11 year olds ....

on purpose, I presume -- but Opie often plays naive/dumb in interviews

and no one dare criticizes his work.

A movie should have had even more impact than the book--!!

I'm guessing that was less than desirable for those who put Opie on it --

Happens all the time. To do otherwise is to waste material.

PBS sometimes has segments on paintings discovered underneath other paintings.

or maybe it was Graffiti?

either way, I think we should all focus on these magnificient works of art that a mere mortal human created over 500 Years ago.

Hey, I know... maybe it was like one of those art tests.. You know? Draw the turtle?

Draw the Horse!!

ok, anyway

if I sent in one of those art tests! Welcome to DU and I think you've got something there about focusing on the art history part of the OP. DU is a slugfest lately but it isn't always like this.:hi:

today, released one of the the images, the one that looked like a skull:

lol, I saw 28 responses and was hoping it was from art lovers. But, it disintegrated quickly into a "fuck your religion/non religion" thread. Oh well, the family's coming into town tomorrow and the flaming threads will prep me for the insanity of it all.

Thanks for the post, flame baiter. Kidding, of course.;-)

one of my wishes is to one day make it to the Louvre.

What's the big deal?

of every art grand master is cataloged, studied, speculated upon and written about. This is as impactful to the art world as finding an unknown Beetles track or Beethoven movement would be to the music world, or discovery of an unknown Shakespearean manuscript would be to the literary world. These 'doodles' will be exhaustively speculated on for years to come. Keep in mind there are many art scholars who have spent their entire lives and careers studying daVinci oblivious to these pieces right under their noses. It truly is remarkable.