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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 06:37 PM Original message |
Direct-seller Amway angling for a comeback in United States |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. I saw one of their commercials today on the National Geographic channel |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. the thing is they take advantage of older people w. failing powers |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. they'll take advantage of young people who buy into the *instant wealth* scam |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
73. They will offer hope to all those who've lost and are losing their jobs... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
59. Yep. A perfect gig for Rick Warren. He'll be among his ideological peers, too. n/t |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Those ads on MSNBC as well. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. It was bull then and now. They used to say their products were good |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. Guess Blackwater didn't prove to be such a good investment... |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. How can this be allowed? They are so obviously grifters!!! |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
84. So is Scientology - maybe Amway should declare itself a religion. n/t |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. As far as the religion aspect - it is marketed through Dominionist churches |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. Maybe it will work. A reliable passenger system railroad is important. |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. My guess is that they are betting on peoples desperation that they will |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
31. bingo! |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. From '88 until '94, I had a banking customer with a line of credit which I administered. |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. It was bad enough with the mary kay ladies chasing me down the street - |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. doesn't this seem like an odd strategy? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. The only way to get someone to buy that garbage is to pester the customer |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Got it. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Watkins Incorporated - |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. There really is a Watkins Incorporated, and they have a good product |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
56. I remember Watkins products |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. The products are secondary to THE PLAN. Amway people don't sell the |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. but the incentives are all backwards |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I've read they don't really care if you sell product anymore |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. that explains a lot! n/t |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. The products aren't meant to be sold to new consumers |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
74. Isn't that a Ponzi Scheme? n/t |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. It's not about selling quality products efficiently |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. Been there, done that, drew the circles and got poorer while my uplines |
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crystalwolf (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
49. The Fundy-RR Christian Angle.... |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. they'll do the same as Herbalife - advertise the *own your own business* ploy |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. 16 or so years ago |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I lost some friends over Amway, too. |
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Hulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. All they had to do was say the word "amway", and I immediately got a picture.... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. BIG ad for Amway in Landmark theatre chains. nt |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. they call it "Quixtar" now - but it is a pyramid scheme all the same |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. Merchants of Deception describes it as more than a "certain amount" |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. What's funny is that I'd only heard of them once until this... |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
90. Lucky you |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. Watch out for those Equinox scumbags, too. They're the same type of crap MLM outfit. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. and "Melaluca", the "other" Amway. |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
81. Yeah.. we actually were sellers for a while. |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #22 |
80. Melaleuca too. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
24. Amway may be a scam but they had some excellent products at one time |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
25. Gee, is Cutco knives making a comeback too? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 03:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Some scumbucket tried to suck me into selling Cutco knives long ago... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. I'll say one thing in the vile Cutco's defense (and yes, it was a scam) |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
64. the Cutco knives were originally made by Alcoa |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
86. We still have our "cutco" knives. However, ours are the old ones made by |
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Mind_your_head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
26. How cum Amway is still around anyway? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Amway has friends in high places. |
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Mind_your_head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
63. Wow! I did not know this. |
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du_grad (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
78. Amway based in Grand Rapids, Michigan |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
82. Granholm needs to be sent a note - to have her AG begin investigating Amway again for Ponzi schemes |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Michigan's AG would never investigate |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
29. Amway isn't just a scam, it's a cult. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Thank you for mentioning that book... |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
30. All I remember about Amway is the guy who bugged the hell out of me at work to buy it. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. What's weird is that the website makes it really difficult to buy the products |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. Ponzi Schemes are coming back IN A BIG WAY! So is shameless theft and fraud openly performed. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
40. They better stay away from me! |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
41. Amway=Dick & Betsy DeVos=extreme RW $$$ treasury |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. It's amazing what an incestuous little pile they have there. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
43. The rest of the story - FTC Chair Muris Bush Appointee Law Firm Representing Amway........ |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
44. A word to the wise: Never, *ever* accept a ride to an Amway presentation... |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I was suckered into a meeting once. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Did you have your own car? If so, then you could have left at any time... |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Nope- I was driven. |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
47. Their own numbers are enough to hang them. Their TV ad says they |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. Let's remember one other reason Scamway is dangerous |
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pointblank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
53. I have a "friend" that i have know since grade school... |
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Snarkoleptic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
58. Primerica is the financial services equivalent of Amway. |
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du_grad (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #58 |
79. My neighbor just quit a fairly decent job to go into Primerica |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. I got a job call from Primerica and Citigroup |
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condoleeza (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
61. My father went from Watkins to Amway |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
62. John Tesh does the voice over on the commercial I have seen recently |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
65. Amway - oh, you mean that ponzi scheme masquerading as a cult? (n/t) |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
66. How to make money at Amway |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
67. The Peoples Network -- 1995 |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
68. Scammers never quit or die. Just like cockroaches. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
69. Many of us here in Michigan hate them. |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
70. just what our country needs right now |
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Dervill Crow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
71. I got Amagift cards for Christmas from my in-laws that sell that shit. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Ewwww. What a thing to get for Christmas! The ones I've ever met who |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
72. Just as Ponzi Madoff goes down...the Old Ponzi comes back to prey on the jobless... |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
75. So many republicans need jobs...You know they buy their own products because no one else will. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
76. Why not.. Ponzi schemes are back..in a big way |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
83. "They say it's a pyramid scheme...but |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
85. okay, here's my amway story... |
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