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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:29 PM
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Baby Girl Born On US-Bound Flight
Source: BBC News

A Ugandan woman has given birth to a baby girl on board an international flight from Amsterdam to Boston after going into labour mid-flight.

The six-pound (2.7kg) baby named Sasha was delivered on New Year's Eve with the help of two doctors on the eight-hour-long Northwest Airlines flight.

Mother and baby were taken to a Boston hospital on landing and are doing well.

Sasha was deemed a Canadian citizen for customs' purposes because she was born over Canada's airspace.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7807001.stm


A Ugandan woman flying from the Netherlands to the United States has a Canadian baby.

I think that kid's life already counts as interesting. Hee.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:35 PM
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1. Updated headline: "Canadian baby refused entry into the U.S. without passport"
Just kidding. I hope the mother and child are doing well.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:04 PM
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46. NORTHWEST FEE STRUCTURE.....
extra carry on fee $350
conversion of extra carry on to passanger ticket $1375
fee to convert carry on to ticket $450
towel fee $200
blanket fee $275
clean up fee $850
med cart usage $800 (gloves, tylenol, etc)

That is the bad news-the good news-double frequent flier miles.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:50 PM
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49. Having just flown Northwest -
I agree.

The cost of checking a single bag for each member of our family increased the price of our the tickets by $90.

Then they had the nerve, on two flights, to tell me I couldn't have coffee since their coffee maker - on two separate planes - was broken. You'd think they could at least use a little bit of all that extra $ they are collecting to fix the coffee maker.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:36 PM
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2. Lucky kid
better to be declared Canadian than Ugandan or American. at least he'll have access to good health care for the rest of his life!
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:55 PM
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5. I was thinking the same thing!
If I was that lady I'd be looking into taking my Canadian baby home to it's birthplace right now.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:49 PM
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3. I'm amazed the airline allowed her on the flight!
I'm glad everyone is OK, tho, and that the child will have the protection of the Canadian government.

That must have been one hell of an interesting international flight for the other passengers. What a great story to tell all your friends!
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:57 PM
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6. Those poor people.
Screaming babies are bad enough, but a lady giving birth? Please. I hope the airline at least gave them free headphones, but I bet it didn't, I bet they had to pay ....
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:07 PM
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23. Well, it would be more dramatic than a crying baby, that's for sure! n/t
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:38 PM
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59. I wondered the same thing
Isn't flying prohibited after a certain point in pregnancy? IIRC, this was part of the reason Palin's birth story seemed so odd.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 05:51 PM
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61. Yes. It's well known that women from poor countries will fly regardless
of the stage of their pregnancy, which is usually in the last trimester so that their babies can be the citizen of that new country. And so many are putting not only thier lives but also the lives of the unborn babies at risk. I'm currently 8 & 1/2 months pregnant (due in 2 weeks) and trust me my doctor would not even release me to fly at 6 months. Hell I cracked my wisdom tooth and couldn't even get any type of treatment without a written consent from my OBGyn to the dentist.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:35 PM
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62. there are so many reasons she could have been flying this late in the pregnancy
for example, did you know that it can cost several hundred less to fly from amsterdam to boston (a route I fly) on christmas eve or on new year's eve? also, at 6 lbs the baby could have very well been just under 36 weeks (not an exact science anyway, estimating the due dates), which is generally the cut-off for flying. just some other possibilities to consider instead of making generalizations about "women from poor countries." How do you know she doesn't work in the Netherlands? Which, if she does, allows her access to much better social benefits than a US citizenship does these days.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:46 AM
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64. Like wanting to give birth in Wasilla hospital? n/t
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:38 PM
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63. also many women don't see their doctors as figures that can "release" them
for activities such as travel or dental procedure. I suspect that you couldn't get treatment for your wisdom tooth without written consent from your OB/GYN because many American dentists don't have adequate malpractice insurance to cover pregnant women. Dental care and timely oral surgery is, in fact, an important factor in a healthy pregnancy.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:54 PM
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4. She probably intended to have it in the US for citizenship reasons
If here Id be ecstatic that shes Canadian instead.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 12:59 PM
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7. Interesting conclusion-leaping, there (nt)
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:05 PM
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8. When you hop on a plane when you are about to pop...
I can come to the conclusion that you probably aren't going to be intending to make it back home in time to give birth. But yeah, just maybe being pregnant was the last thing on her mind, eh? Maybe it was just an accident...a slip of the mind. When you are that pregnant, who would even be paying attention to when the baby was going to arrive. She was probably too obsessed thinking about her next foot massage.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:35 PM
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12. Maybe she came early. It happens.
6 lb baby isn't very large.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:40 PM
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13. Article says she was 8 month pregnant.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:44 PM
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15. Thanks, I missed that. She may have thought she had another month.
Best wishes to mother and child and the rest of the family.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:53 PM
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18. Those kind of stories really don't amuse me.
I fail to see why women close to giving birth should be hopping on planes. What if there were complications, or she needed a c-section?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:03 PM
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22. Makes me wonder why she did.
I don't know enough to pass judgement.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:05 AM
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56. And I try NOT to 'pass judgment'
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 02:07 AM by elleng
on most things; I'm not a 'judge,' just a person.

If your point is there's not enough info here fully to understand the story, I think you're correct.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:08 PM
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44. yes they should be kept to confinement and unseen in public from the time they show
- c'mon - "that close"? 8 months?
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:56 PM
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50. I flew at 8+ months pregnant twice
with my doctor's consent (~3 and 4 weeks before birth, respectively) . His reasoning was that the flights were under two hours, my labor would be longer than two hours, I would be in a major metropolitan area when I landed if I needed emergency assistance. On the other hand, driving cross country to get to reach the same location would have put me in the middle of nowhere for hours at a time - with no guarantee of competent medical care in whatever small town I was closest to.

Don't know what he would have thought about an international flight.
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:56 PM
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19. There are lots of people...
...who travel to the US/Canada just to give birth in order to get citizenship for the child. Many of them do it in a much less obvious manner - they enter the country when they are about 2-3 months pregnant, stay with a relative/friend/rented apartment, give birth, and go back. Sure, they'll pay a lot since they won't have insurance, but they feel it's well worth it.

I'm not saying this is the case with her, but it happens a lot more than one would think.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:25 PM
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25. Yes, its something many think about. Were having a Canadian in 4 months...
But we are doing it legally actually. It was a topic of much debate the first time we had a child. We always kept in mind exactly where we wanted to have the child due to citizenship reasons.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:26 PM
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53. The local news did say that the mother is a U.S. resident (eom)
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:51 PM
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54. Resident could mean a couple of things...
i.e. a temporary resident (student, worker, etc.) or a permanent resident (green card holder).

In either case, the child would not be entitled to US citizenship, unless the child was born in the US.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:49 AM
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65. But why not the Netherlands?
Does the Netherlands have birthright citizenship?
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:22 PM
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68. Europe is much more conservative when it comes to birthright citizenship.
Here's a list I got from Wikipedia...take it FWIW:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Specific_national_legislation

Netherlands is not in there.

Regardless, the US is still considered the destination of choice by most immigrants. The opportunities (education, jobs, networks, etc) for success are perceived as much better than anywhere else in the world. Not saying that's true, but it's the perception.

Plus, once the child is 18, he/she can petition for the parents to become permanent residents and eventually citizens. Not sure how it works in other countries.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:42 PM
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14. who knows what was going on
She may not have realized how far along she was if she hadn't been getting pre-natal care. Or there may have been a family emergency that required her presence. Or maybe, due to Homeland Security hassles, this was the only window she had in which to travel to the US. So I don't see any reason to make assumptions about her motivation for flying. Looks like the passengers and crew on the flight are happy and proud, and everyone is celebrating a new life, and that is what matters. It's really sort of touching, ain't it?
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:27 PM
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26. You are assuming she wasn't getting pre-natal care?
Edited on Thu Jan-01-09 02:27 PM by Oregone
But hey, she isn't American, so the chances are she was. :)

ok, ok, if she came straight from Uganda, who knows. But hell, maybe she had more of a chance than many in the States, where doctors are merchants first and medics second.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:22 PM
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52. I'm assuming that I don't know
Always a safe bet!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:45 PM
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16. Maybe she had relatives here and there was a family emergency
You have absolutely no idea why she was on that plane.

I do know that airlines will not let a woman who is obviously 9 months pregnant fly. So if she was that far along, she had to have a pretty good reason for coming here in order for them to let her on board. And wanting her baby to be a US citizen is probably not a reason the airlines will accept. :eyes:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:52 PM
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17. Airlines might not know how far along the woman is.
Hell Sarah Palin flew after her amniotic fluid started leaking and gave birth right after she got to Alaska.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:00 PM
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20. Sarah is the governor of Alaska
She can probably find a way to do a lot of things a woman from Africa would never be allowed to do.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:17 PM
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32. I don't know what Sarah could or couldn't do in theory.
But it doesn't have anything to do with her getting on a plane after her amniotic fluid started leaking.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:22 PM
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33. If she had told them her fluid was breaking they wouldn't have let her board
But I really believe as long as she kept her mouth shut (and she didn't look very pregnant), they would let her fly, as they did. I have a friend who is a stewardess and she said airlines don't let 9 month pregnant women fly. That leads me to believe the woman in this story was either not very big or delivered early.

As for Sarah, I think she would get a few extra perks as a governor that a woman from Africa would not get. But maybe not. :shrug:
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:36 PM
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36. I think that it can be hard to tell
Passengers are strangers to the airline employees. They don't know the woman's prepregnant physique or her progression. Some women who are 36 weeks look like they are about to have multiples any minute, while others might look more like someone only half way through her pregnany. Also, it is winter. She may have been wearing a coat, other layered clothes, or a baggy sweat shirt/sweater that would make her look less pregnant.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. Yea and airlines don't ask women whether they are pregnant
when the women board the plane.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:39 PM
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38. They don't have to ask
since most women who are 9 months pregnant don't need to hang a sign around their neck announcing they are about to have a baby.
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Milspec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:50 PM
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39. You owe me a new keyboard...
:rofl:
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #33
51. Most allow you to fly
through the 38th week if you have a doctor's authorization and no adverse medical history.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:53 PM
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31. Unless you're Sarah Palin
:evilgrin:
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:58 PM
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40. That's harsh.
I didn't expect to "pop" when I was 8 months.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:46 PM
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29. I have a friend who works for Homeland Security
and she says that there has been a massive, MASSIVE drop in new immigrants over the past year. She sometimes jokes that soon Americans will be sneaking over the border into Mexico to find a better life! I sure hope that it doesn't come to that.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:51 PM
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30. Well, the US really isn't the great bastion of immigration that it is percieved to be
I think there is an overwhelming feeling in the US that everyone in the world wants to come there because it is so "great". If you look at the immigration in terms of how many people live there and the GDP, its up there but definitely not number 1.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_new_cit_percap-immigration-new-citizenships-per-capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_new_cit_pergdp-immigration-new-citizenships-per-gdp
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:29 PM
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34. I remember seeing a story last year on one of the news channels about
American silicone valley workers immigrating to India to get high tech jobs. I wish I could remember where so I could get a link, but I found that interesting that they would have to chase their lost jobs to the country where they were lost. It could be that the Americans will organize and demand better wages and the companies who outsourced their jobs will be forced to pay higher wages in the long run anyway. It's a thought anyway.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:07 PM
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41. Uganda still has much harsher conditions than the U.S.
Last I checked.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #29
57. CANADA for me.
.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:05 PM
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9. Fetus was on do not fly list!!!
Edited on Thu Jan-01-09 01:05 PM by kirby
Her struggle with Homeland Security has begun.

On a more serious note. Are you supposed to be flying when so close to delivery? I guess if Palin did it, it must be fine.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:11 PM
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10. Barack Obama has new competition for "most interesting birth history."
What, is being born a half-Kansan, half-Kenyan native of Hawaii not interesting enough anymore?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 01:14 PM
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11. He certainly raised the bar...!
PB
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:01 PM
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21. The new arrival has been christened Mullet Palin
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:45 PM
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48. !
Mullet! :spray:
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PoiBoy Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:10 PM
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24. So...the Americans deem the baby a Canadian...
Can the U.S. do that?

What's the Canadian gov't. say about it? I sure the Canadians would be fine with it and give the mom and baby a fine welcome...

It just strikes me as odd that the American gov't. can designate someone a citizen of another country without that country's cooperation and approval. I'm sure they may have that approval by now, but the baby was deemed a Canadian for "customs' purposes", and that would be right at entrance to the U.S.

besides, isn't an American airliner considered U.S. territory? or not?

:shrug:
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Ezana Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:28 PM
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27. And the baby's name is Sasha, probably as a.. to Barrak Obama.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. Born in Canadian territory = Canadian citizen
It's automatic. We have similar birthright rules to the US.

Airliners don't have extraterritoriality.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:33 PM
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35. I think there is a precedent to that.
Back in the days when people traveled by sea, if a baby was born on board the ship, often the citizenship was determined by the nationality of the parents so that they couldn't claim American citizenship if born on an American registry ship. I would be interested in knowing if the Canadian government is okay with this.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:08 PM
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42. If she wasn't born on American territory or airspace
and the law doesn't allow for the child to have Canadian citizenship (as most countries wouldn't, but Canada does, I believe), then the baby will be Ugandan if the mother is Ugandan!
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 02:41 PM
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60. So if you're baby is born in a Honda Civic....
is he or she Japanese? :evilgrin: I think it is done by territory.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:22 AM
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66. DUzy...you owe me a new keyboard
:rofl:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:45 PM
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69. I have a great nephew who was born in the front seat of the car, in the hospital parking lot.
The hospital staff arrived just in time to retrieve him from the passenger side floor, pick the popcorn, wrappers and cd's off of him, load him and his mom onto a gurney.

I have no idea what kind of car it was, but I do have an idea of what the cd's were. He's about 12 now and his middle name is "Nirvana".

Honest. :D
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 05:05 PM
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43. Her final destination was Wasilla, not Boston
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 06:47 PM
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45. Found this......
Contemporary laws

Under the 1944 Convention on International Civil Aviation, articles 17–21, all aircraft have the nationality of the state in which they are registered, and may not have multiple nationalities. For births, the law of the aircraft's nationality is applicable, and for births that occur in flight whilst the aircraft is not within the territory of any state, it is the only applicable law. However, if the aircraft is in or flying over the territory of another state, that state may also have concurrent jurisdiction, and the locus in quo principle may apply to the exact position of the aircraft when the birth occurred.<2>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_aboard_aircraft_and_ships
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 10:52 PM
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55. That answers a lot of questions I had. Thanks! n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 07:12 PM
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47. This is why pregnant women should have to buy two tickets
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:24 AM
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67. So you're implying that a pregnant woman who is also obese should have to buy THREE tickets?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:46 PM
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70. Unless she's giving off third hand smoke, in which case she needs to buy six. n/t
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:11 AM
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58. Welcome to the world
I love how the baby ends up Canadian. Cool!


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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:14 AM
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71. Suprised the airline didn't try to charge her for another seat...
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