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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:35 AM
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No Purple Hearts for PTSD, Pentagon rules
Source: Navy Times

The Purple Heart will not be awarded to service members suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, the Pentagon confirmed Monday.

“It’s not a qualifying Purple Heart wound,” said Defense Department spokeswoman Eileen Lainez, although she added that “advancements in medical science may support future re-evaluation.”

The decision, reached Nov. 3 but not made public until now, followed months of evaluation by military and outside officials. That evaluation was spurred when Defense Secretary Robert Gates was asked at a May press conference whether he would support awarding the Purple Heart to PTSD sufferers.

Gates said the idea was “clearly something that needs to be looked at.” His undersecretary for personnel and readiness, David S.C. Chu, decided against making such awards after conferring with the Pentagon’s Awards Advisory Group, which includes “awards experts” from the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Staff, the military services, the Institute of Heraldry and the Center for Military History, according to Lainez.

Gates concurred with that decision, Lainez said.

The decision was first reported Monday by the Stars and Stripes newspaper.

Read more: http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/01/military_purpleheart_ptsd_010609w/ news/2009/01/military_purpleheart_ptsd_010609w
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:59 PM
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1. Of course not.
They'd have to pass 'em out like candy on Halloween. We cant have the actual numbers of traumatized veterans become public knowledge. That would be bad PR dontcha know.

Gotta love it.
:sarcasm:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 06:20 AM
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9. Sad but true, every soldier would get one, IMHO all combat troops suffer from PTSD
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:36 PM
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2. “advancements in medical science may support future re-evaluation.” WTF?
Edited on Tue Jan-06-09 03:37 PM by uppityperson
Link wouldn't work but found this one which looks just like yours but, now it says it won't work directly either. I did a search in the search box for PTSD and this was the first link, clicked on it an it worked. Odd.
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/01/military_purpleheart_ptsd_010609w/

PTSD “is not a wound intentionally caused by the enemy from an outside force or agent, but is a secondary effect caused by witnessing or experiencing a traumatic event,” she said.

According to the National Institute of Mental Health, PTSD is an anxiety disorder that can develop “after exposure to a terrifying event or ordeal in which grave physical harm occurred or was threatened.” The affliction is one of several reported in high numbers among veterans returning from duty in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, both marked by long tours and high exposure to combat trauma.

Based on the definition of a wound, “an injury to any part of the body from an outside force or agent,” other Purple Heart award criteria, and 76 years of precedent, the Purple Heart has been limited to award for physical wounds, not psychological wounds;
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•PTSD is specifically listed as an injury not justifying award of the Purple Heart in Title 32 of the Code of Federal Regulationbs.

•The requirement that a qualifying Purple Heart wound be caused by “an outside force or agent” provides a fairly objective assessment standard that minimizes disparate treatment between service members. Several members could witness the same traumatic event, for instance, but only those who suffer from PTSD would receive the Purple Heart.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 03:40 PM
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3. OMFG!
:banghead:

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justsomeguy1973 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 06:15 PM
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4. Perhaps another type of medal
If they don't want to include mental injury in the criteria for the purple heart, then perhaps they could consider a new medal. Having one for physical damage, one for mental doesn't seem like such a big deal to me. But perhaps it would be upsetting to someone?
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rangersmith82 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 06:49 PM
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5. They need another Medal for PTSD
Alot of soldiers have PTSD, but there is now way I could look at a guy missing legs and tell him I earned my Purple Heart for PTSD.

Thats my opinion, and I will leave it at that.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:15 PM
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6. naturally, because PTSD isn't a serious injury, in your opinion
Tell that to the Vietnam vets still living in the woods of Oregon because they're too fucked up to survive in a civilized society.

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/view/2378/1/136/

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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:39 PM
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7. Purple Heart medal has alway been for wounded vets, not shell shock.
they could issue a new medal for PTSD,but I doubt they will.
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:16 AM
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8. It's about eligibility for costly treatment
Courts recognize PTSD as a real injury. And so does the AMA. And it is a real injury. Virtually any scratch caused by combat, even a paper scratch from a map, can qualify for a Purple Heart.

Now, I don't really care about the medal, but I want the US government to pay for the treatment to these severely wounded soldiers.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 09:41 AM
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10. Interesting perspective. Welcome to DU, The Second Stone.
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