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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 11:31 PM
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Canada, U.S. should leave Afghanistan: expert
Source: CTV.ca

A retired American colonel and prominent academic is calling for U.S. president-elect Barack Obama to reconsider his plans to expand his country's military mission in Afghanistan.

Andrew Bacevich, a foreign affairs specialist at Boston University, said the U.S. and allies like Canada should start to withdraw from the war-torn country because it "simply does not make sense" to stay.

Appearing on CTV's Question Period Sunday, he said the original objective of the mission was to make sure the region does not become a breeding ground for Al Qaeda terrorists, who could then have a safe haven to launch attacks on the West.

Bacevich said that now the Taliban has been forced out of power, there is really no need for Western countries to stay in the country and try to make it into a modern democracy.

Read more: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090111/afghan_colonel_090111/20090111?hub=Canada



Makes sense to me.

- B
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 11:36 PM
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1. Requires some study. (by me)
Taliban has not been forced out of power. Thought AFGH would be a prob initially (no brainer, considering russkis experience there) and don't know what we should do/what 'good' afgh does for us. BUT we're a soft hearted people, or at least many Dems are, and the afgh people have a really rough life.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 11:40 PM
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2. I agree. We also cannot afford to stay there with numerous troops.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:47 PM
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7. to make it into a modern democracy.
If pigs fly
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:43 PM
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12. It should be up to the people of afghanistan to decide how they want their government organized.
I mean how long do these neocons want us there and until what conditions are set? And forget about the bin laden arguement, because he is either buried in a mountain, died of radiation poisoning from a dirty bomb he got to friendly with, died of natural causes, who the hell knows! For all we know those last tapes were pre-recorded before he died or the CIA made them.

The best way to undue our bad reputation in the world is to stop importing free weapons and stop propping up regimes.

BTW, look at the great job we're doing at preventing further genocide in Darfur! :sarcasm:
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 11:59 PM
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3. Just look at the history here...
Edited on Mon Jan-12-09 12:16 AM by lordsummerisle
Foreign powers have never "won" in Afghanistan, and I doubt this will change anytime soon. Once the money fire hose starts to dry up in Iraq it will just transfer over to Afghanistan...
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:10 AM
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4. The real history is very sad...
Afghanistan may of been a really incredible nation today if it weren't for the Cold War and Operation Cyclone. We just can't stop fucking with that country until all it produces is pissed off radicals.
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:25 AM
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5. It's all about the poppies....lots of money and until they can get those farmers to make good money
from other crops that country will stay the same as it has for centuries. The whole country is a drug cartel.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:57 PM
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9. Poppy Bush
He will just have to pay a little more. It will just add a few more middlemen to the pipeline.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:45 PM
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6. I've always thought the continued presence in Afghanistan had just as much to do
with that trans-Afghanistan pipeline project as anything else. Until PNAC and the NATO enablers get the oilfields and routes all sorted out and secured they won't be coming home anytime soon. jmo.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:49 PM
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8. If we leave, the Taliban will take over
I am not sure if that is a good option.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:15 PM
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10. So do we stay forever?
The religious extremists, drug barons and tribal war lords have been running that country for about 200 years. Eventually, they will run the place again, no matter how many bombs we drop on the place. Nothing is going to change. No good will come from this war.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:41 PM
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11. if people want the usa to stay there they should enlist
or send someone in their family..our kids have been sent over 3-4 times for deployment, time to bring them home. the troops are broken down.
i know you dont mean it, you wouldnt want our kids to be over there one more minute if you knew we could bring them home.
besides, we should have never gone there in the first place.
its time to bring all the troops home. our tax money should be here in the usa helping to build this country. we dont need to be the worlds police.
keyboard warriors a far too aplenty in the world. they support war as long as its other peoples kids doing it.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 04:22 PM
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13. The Taliban are back in power in many areas of the country

This guy appears to be behind the times.
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