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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:31 PM
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Rabbis may halt Vatican talks over Holocaust-denying priest
Source: The Guardian

Rabbis may halt Vatican talks over Holocaust-denying priest

Riazat Butt, religious affairs correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 29 January 2009


The Chief Rabbinate of Israel has threatened to break off normal dialogue with the Vatican over its decision to lift the excommunication of a Catholic priest who claimed that no Jews died in gas chambers during the second world war.

In a letter to Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with Jewry, officials from Israel's supreme religious governing body warned that without a public apology from the priest it would be "very difficult to continue dialogue with the Vatican as before". The letter called on the priest, British-born Richard Williamson, to recant his "deplorable" statement.

The letter said: "You will appreciate that under such circumstances it would be wiser for us to postpone our next meeting in Rome at the beginning of March until this matter is clarified."

It is the fiercest criticism yet of the papal decree, issued last weekend, aimed at rehabilitating members of a traditionalist Catholic order - the Society of St Pius X - one of whose clerics is a Holocaust denier.

Williamson, who now lives in Argentina, had claimed in a television interview that historical evidence was "hugely against six million having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler ... I believe there were no gas chambers."

Alongside three bishops, Williamson was excommunicated 20 years ago after being consecrated by French archbishop Marcel Lefebvre without papal consent.


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/29/rabbis-vatican-pope-holocaust



German Pope's latest hits: pruning the forest from LGBTs, restoring Latin Mass, and rehabilitating unrepentant Holocaust deniers.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:44 PM
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1. A holocaust denier in Argentina? Do go on...
At this point, they should just cancel dialogues until the next Pope is in (which hopefully won't be too long from now).
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 12:00 AM
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2. Is the Pope Italian? Is the Pope CIA?
Is the Pope a Nazi?

They also resurrected Opus Dei which Pope John XXIII banned -- tossed out.

Meanwhile, Opus Dei evidently gave the Vatican $1 Billion at the time of the Bank

scandal -- and that seemed to be the pay-off for the kindness!!

About ten years ago, I noticed that the priestly nephew of Allen Dulles was rising

rapidly in the Church and not too long afterwards was transferred to the Vatican!

Dulles worked Project Paperclip which brought tens of thousands of Nazis and their

families to America -- most of them having worked in intelligence.

They were used to found our CIA, many filtered into the FBI -- and NASA head, of course...

Werner Von Braun!

So -- why not the Vatican. As I understand it the Vatican's intelligence resources

actually supercede the CIA's!

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:23 AM
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5. 'Is the Pope Italian?' Actually, no.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:04 AM
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3. "Williamson, who now lives in Argentina"

How appropriate.

And a big Zig Heil to Papstführer Ratzinger von Shitten.:grr:

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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:10 AM
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4. Sadly, since John XXIII, the Papacy has become a joke.
It's always had its problems (I have, even as a born-and-raised Catholic, a hard time believing in anyone's "infallibility"). It just seems that the Church moves farther and farther from the real world and real world concerns, when once it was a leader in anti-poverty and pro-human rights work.

Sad.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:08 PM
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8. Well, they had to kill a few Popes before it became a joke . . . !!!
This Pope is now planning to move the church to Evangelicalism!

Pope John XXIII -- the beloved -- actually kicked "infallibility" in the arse with

Vatican II as he told Catholics to use their own personal conscience to decide for

themselves in regard to birth control --- and he didn't mean rhythmn!

He was turning the church into a democracy and birth control would have been approved

by the next Pope or two -- if not by him.

I'm also a recovering Catholic ----

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:14 AM
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6. K&R
- Who would have ever thought, it would come to this....

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:37 AM
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7. He was excommunicated 20 years ago for being consecrated
without consent, not for being a holocaust denier.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI has lifted the excommunications of four traditionalist bishops, including that of a Holocaust denier whose rehabilitation sparked outrage among Jewish groups. The four bishops were excommunicated 20 years ago after they were consecrated by the late ultraconservative Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre without papal consent _ a move the Vatican said at the time was an act of schism.

The Vatican said Saturday that Benedict rehabilitated the four as part of his efforts to bring Lefebvre's Society of St. Pius X back into the Vatican's fold. But the move came just days after one of the four, British Bishop Richard Williamson, was shown in a Swedish state TV interview saying that historical evidence "is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed."

Video of interview with Williamson at the link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/24/bishop-richard-williamson_n_160598.html

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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:28 PM
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9. I knew it would happen someday....
....the Jews would get angry with the Nazi Pope and all the love would disappear....
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