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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:07 PM
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U.S. protectionism alarms PM
Source: The Canadian Press

Prime Minister Stephen Harper says a protectionist bill that could hurt U.S. imports of Canadian steel goes against the spirit of free trade and the United States shouldn't forget its “international obligations” to liberalize global commerce.

‘I spoke to our ambassador about it yesterday and I know that countries around the world are expressing grave concern about some of these measures that go against not just the obligations of the United States, but frankly the spirit of our G20 discussions,” Mr. Harper said Thursday in the House of Commons on Thursday.

‘We will be having these discussions with our friends in the United States and we expect the United States to respect its international obligations.”
The so-called “Buy America” provision, attached to the massive economic stimulus package working its way through the U.S. Congress, would call on major public works projects to favour U.S. steel over imported metal.

Read more: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090129.wPOLtrade0129/BNStory/politics/home
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:10 PM
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1. Ah...maybe we should import the workers too!!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:14 PM
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2. Did the US need to import steel in 2002? CNN had this article; selling WTC steel to China.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:43 PM
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6. The US has been importing steel since the 1980s. nt
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 08:44 PM by Veritas_et_Aequitas
I'm not even sure we have any steel plants left.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:07 PM
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11. That was just
the scrubbing of the crime scene.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:16 PM
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3. The way I see it:
The US economy is in crisis.

Flushing more jobs out the door will make it collapse.

As has been said on the internets; "When the US sneezes the world catches pneumonia". (the one who coined it was implying if we get ill, the world follows suit. And for "we" read "the US economy".)
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:18 PM
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4. We have no "obligation" to commit suicide for our "friends".
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 08:21 PM by Waiting For Everyman
We've gone down this road far enough. The party's over.

Maybe if they try real hard, the Canadians could find some infrastructure projects to do with their steel in Canada... maybe put some Canadians to work too, as we're doing.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:31 PM
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5. One Quick
Sure way would be to get rid of NAFTA.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:44 PM
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7. "The party's over"
Damn straight it is.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:45 PM
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8. If you want the world to buy American products,
then you in turn will have to agree to buy products from elsewhere.

Canadians buy a lot of American cars. We could buy Japanese, Korean, European or any other kind.

We have global trade for a reason. Variety, price, innovation. Everybody benefits.

If you build walls, you will only harm yourselves.
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:58 PM
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9. If you want to still have a country you have to have a somewhat
even import to export ratio. We cannot import everything! Canadians may buy American cars... but a lot of the parts are manufactured and assembled in Canada. We outsourced transmissions there decades ago. We have global trade simply because it is cheaper. This free for all bullshit has got to end.

Build a wall, then install a door... only then, you know what is going through it.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:30 PM
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12. Yes
If we didn't have NAFTA then we would have Campbell Soup making soup in Canada. We would have a pasta industry supplying pasta to Canadians. We would have a Celanese supplying chemicals.

Without NAFTA we would have our own value added resources which we could then export. Value added. Not resource BASED.

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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:15 PM
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16. Who says we want the world to buy our products?
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 10:21 PM by Waiting For Everyman
Make them here, sell them here - we ARE the biggest market in the world, and nearly self-sufficient. Let the world carry on without us, as it used to. Fine by me.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:05 PM
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10. Stephen Harper's a dick.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:30 PM
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13. Not just Canada worried about this..Here's the link/article from Yahoo
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 09:31 PM by Blaze Diem
addressing the issue of US "Protectionism".
Seems a lot of countries who have benefited from our job hemorrhaging are now a bit nervous.

Just what are they willing to do to aid the USA after they have taken our jobs, watched our economy tank, and in many ways made their own nations stronger by the disappearance of our middle class labor force.
This balancing act will be interesting to witness. I wish our President success and a safe journey.

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:35 PM
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14. HMMM - I think Canada, even HARPER is getting pissed off at the USA
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Canada gave up the Avro Arrow to please the USA because it worried the US military that it was BETTER AND FASTER than anything the USA had in the air at the time

Don't piss us Canucks off too much

Our gas, oil and electricity supports much of the USA

Iraq IS a cakewalk compared to what would happen if the USA tried to invade Canada

Russia and China are just over the pole

Us Canuks will be polite and friendly

only to a point . . . .

then

look out!
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:20 PM
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17. Keep it then.
And nobody wants to invade Canada. Seems to me, this squabble is about other countries not getting to "invade" us. Well we're slow, but we still have a pulse.

This is a stimulus, not another foreign giveaway.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:59 PM
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15. Ha, good, anything that upsets little stevie boy has got to be good for us and the US....
Poor little stevie doesn't have bush's ass to kiss any more. I agree with the "Buy American" provision, I hope it kills NAFTA and then, maybe, just maybe, both countries can negotiate a FAIR trade deal that cuts out the rapacious corporations and addresses the real trade issues and includes environmental and labour protections.
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