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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:04 AM
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Taliban to withdraw from Pakistan's Buner: spokesman
Source: AFP

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AFP) — Taliban fighters controlling the northwest Pakistan district of Buner are to withdraw by Friday evening, a spokesman for a pro-Taliban cleric said.

"It has been decided... that Taliban (fighters) will leave Buner by Friday evening," Ameer Izzat Khan, spokesman for Maulana Soofi Mohammad, told AFP.

"We are going to Buner with the top administration official in Swat, Mohammad Javed, for further talks with the Taliban," Khan told AFP.

Javed also said the Taliban had "promised us that they will leave Buner by Friday evening."

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hmGufoNckGyarJiUhzCQy_vZ4L9A
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:05 AM
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1. Pakistani Taliban say withdrawing from key valley
BUNER, Pakistan (Reuters) - A Pakistani Taliban commander has ordered his men to withdraw from Buner district, a spokesman said on Friday, amid mounting alarm in the United States over the Taliban advance toward the capital of the nuclear-armed Muslim state.

Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan said there were around 100 fighters in Buner, a valley just 100 km (60 miles) from Islamabad and less than five hours drive from the capital.

"Our leader has ordered that Taliban should immediately be called back from Buner," Khan told Reuters.

Khan belongs to a faction led by Fazlullah, the Taliban commander in neighboring Swat valley, where the government has caved in to militants' demands for the imposition of Islamic law.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE53N1EM20090424
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:07 AM
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2. Pakistani PM: Our nukes are safe from Taliban
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's military can stop Taliban fighters who are closing in on the capital and the nation's nuclear weapons are safe, Pakistan's prime minister said Friday.

Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani spoke for the first time about the safety of the country's nuclear weapons since the recent surge of the Taliban while addressing Pakistan's national assembly.

"If anybody challenges the writ of the government, then we will react," Gilani said. "Yesterday, I heard that had reached Buner and close to Islamabad. Do we not have any courage? Does this parliament not have moral courage to stop them? The defense of the country is in strong hands. Our nuclear program is in safe hands."

Taliban militants this week surged into the district of Buner -- about 96 kilometers (60 miles) from the capital, Islamabad -- in a land grab that has raised international concerns.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/24/pakistan.taliban.control.gilani/
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:42 AM
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3. I heard a report yestersay, I think on the BBC, that the Swat and Buner situations are different
In Swat, the Taliban had successfully positioned themselves for some time as the people to bring 'justice' against rich landlords, and so they had a fair amount of support among the general population there. But the people of Buner don't feel that way, and resent and fear the Taliban.

If that's the case, then perhaps the Taliban have decided they won't be able to hold Buner with more popular support. I can't find the report online at the moment, but I'll carry on looking.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:38 AM
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5. I think calling them "taliban" just muddies the water here.
It's more of a locals vs outsiders issue. The guys in Swat are local to Swat, and they won't push anybody around outside Swat, is my impression. I think some of the young'uns got a little too excited, and were told to back off.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 01:41 PM
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8. The "economic" version is at least partly true.
Of course, it helps that there are a hundred thousand or more refugees. Many of those most ardently opposed--whether because they have money, education, or businesses--have left Swat.

Among those that remain there are probably supporters. There are probably many people who would prefer to remain quiet, since opposition gets you Markoffed. I.e., a "student" holds you at gunpoint, and possibly shoots you.
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Chuckleberry Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:03 AM
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4. Do you guys think Taliban was given concessions in exchange?
In exchange for the withdrawal, that is. Invaders never leave a territory unless defeated or given concessions.

The article says nothing about the reasons.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:52 AM
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6. "Invaders never leave a territory unless defeated or given concessions"
Never?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:59 AM
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7. Persuasive negotiations and realities on the ground. n/t
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:53 PM
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9. Kool-Aid drinkers like that "spokesman"
oh yeah !
Taliban Shift Forces, but Keep Hold on Pakistan Valley

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Some Taliban pulled back from a key district not far from the capital on Friday, but remained in control of the area, as the military defended its response, saying it was “determined to root out the menace of terrorism.”

The statement issued by the Pakistani military also condemned the criticism of the army by “outside powers” and called its decision not to intervene as Taliban insurgents advanced from the Swat Valley to Buner, just 70 miles from the capital, an “operational pause” intended to give reconciliation a chance.


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On Friday, local political leaders in Buner, home to about one million people, met with Sufi Mohamed, the Taliban leader who negotiated a February truce in Swat, and Mohamed Javed, the commissioner of Malakand, whose authority extends over both Swat and Buner, local residents reported.

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After the talks, a convoy of Taliban vehicles left Buner, but Amir Zeb Bacha, the head of the Buner chapter of the Pakistan International Human Rights Organization, called the withdrawal “a tactical show.”

The militants remained in control, according to a Taliban fighter reached by telephone and local residents. “They will come back when they want,”
Mr. Bacha said. “They are in the mountains where they have made bunkers.”



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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/25/world/asia/25pstan.html?_r=2

Pak military giving an “operational pause” intended to give reconciliation a chance.

Oh YEAH !!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/26/world/asia/26pstan.html
They are ready to "negotiate" with the department of peace again


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ygjS0TEls&feature=PlayList&p=7B186CA5F3BC3040&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14
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oxygen destroyer Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:08 PM
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10. I love that picture


He just oozes confidence and resolve.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:29 AM
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11. Fear grips Pakistan district despite Taliban ‘retreat’
Attention all uppity women of Pakistan;
PESHAWAR, Pakistan - ‘I have resigned. I will never go to my job as I don’t want my parents to be sent my body,’ said a woman in a northwest Pakistan district from which the Taliban claimed to have withdrawn.

The woman, who called herself only Hafsa, said she worked for a charity until the Taliban advanced into Buner, just 100 kilometres (62 miles) from Islamabad, from the neighbouring district of Swat, which was torn apart by a nearly two-year Islamist insurgency.

Fear and uncertainty reigned in Buner on Saturday despite what the hardline movement trumpeted as a withdrawal to Swat—just the other side of the mountains—to shore up a deal to enforce Islamic law there.

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‘Now they have left but our office is still locked and we will not resume duty until authorities provide us security,’ he said.

A Taliban commander said after his men entered Buner that they would set up strict Islamic sharia courts, as they have done in Swat.

Both Buner and Swat fall within Malakand, a district of some three million people in North West Frontier Province where President Asif Ali Zardari has ratified an agreement to enforce sharia law in exchange for peace.

‘Female staff in my office as well as schools and colleges did not turn up today,’ said deputy district education officer, Mohammad Sahib.

Some people were grateful that the threat of a military operation to flush out the Taliban had been averted—at least for now.

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People in Buner said they hoped things would now improve but were concerned about the lingering presence of local Taliban.

‘We are hopeful that the situation will now return to normal after the Taliban withdrawal,’ Jehanzeb Khan, a local lawyer said.

‘The Taliban from Swat have left and there is no patrolling going on but we still have local Taliban members from Buner present,’ he added.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/international/2009/April/international_April2016.xml§ion=international&col=

Don't be like the uppity infidel white women.

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On Wednesday, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that “the Pakistani government is basically abdicating to the Taliban,” but the spokesman, Haji Muslim Khan, said that


Taliban anger was partly caused by the presence of female American soldiers in the region. Mr. Khan said that Pakistan’s prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, “should think about Western white women who take up arms and come from 20,000 miles away to fight against us here.”

snip

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/video-of-pakistani-taliban-in-buner-and-swat/

They fear white women influences on their 'woman folk"
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:49 PM
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13. Oh gee, are women EVER going to be seen as equals in the world?????
Never mind, stupid question.........

:-(
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:25 PM
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12. Taliban gunmen shooting couple dead for adultery caught on camera
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In footage which is being watched with horror by Pakistanis, the couple try to flee when they realise what is about to happen. But a gunman casually shoots the man and then the woman in the back with a burst of gunfire, leaving them bleeding in the dirt.

Moments later, when others in the execution party shout out that they are still alive, he returns to coldly finish them with a few more rounds.

Their "crime" was an alleged affair in their remote mountain village controlled by militants in an area that was only recently under the government's sway.

snip

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/5220532/Taliban-gunmen-shooting-couple-dead-for-adultery-caught-on-camera.html

The Law must be obeyed from now on . Let that be an example to your 'sectarianists'.
Don't fuck with the law.
:sarcasm:

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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 04:21 PM
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14. Taliban halt military convoy from entering Swat ( in direct violation of "the peace" deal )
MINGORA: Militants have stopped a security forces convoy near Qamber, a Taliban stronghold, from moving onward to Mingora and also occupied the residence PML-N central leader Sar Anjam Khan in Bahrain on Saturday morning.

Sources said the militants took positions along main GT road after hearing about the movement of a convoy of security forces. They stopped the convoy from moving towards district headquarter Mingora, saying the move is a violation of the Swat peace accord.
Commissioner Malakand Mohmmad Javed confirmed the report, saying the convoy returned back. Sources, however, said the military authorities have taken strong note of the militant action and warned that the security forces would take stern action in case the way of troops was blocked or arms were displayed along the roads in future.


http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/14-taliban-halt-military-convoy-from-entering-swat-zj-04


Oh yeah,
Commissioner Malakand Mohmmad Javed

Pakistan Fires Key Architect of Swat Peace Deal

snip

Mr. Javed, a career civil servant who keeps a long a beard and is known for his strict religious views, was appointed last year as the commissioner of Malakand, a region that includes Swat and Buner

snip
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3847187#3848894

That is the same Mohmad Javed.



either;
.....this means war in 72 hrs on the Taliban

or

....Islamabad should fall with a whimper


ok, Give them til May Day

jmo

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