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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:01 PM
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Miss California (Prejean) in breach of contract, officials say
Source: LA Times

Officials with the Miss California USA Pageant said today in Beverly Hills that title-holder Carrie Prejean is in breach of contract and "entered the contest under false pretenses." Donald Trump, who owns the Miss USA pageant, will decide tomorrow whether she will keep her crown.

Prejean didn't inform contest officials about her involvement with anti-gay marriage organizations and failed to show up for public appearances as required under her contract with the Miss USA organization, said Keith Lewis and Shannon Moakler, co-executive directors of Miss California USA.

Prejean's brief reign has been clouded by controversy over semi-nude photos and her comments on gay marriage. She made national headlines last month when during the Miss USA pageant she said that marriage should be between a man and woman.

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Now, Miss California officials say they are looking into whether Prejean violated rules by working for a group opposed to gay marriage and by posing semi-nude. It's unclear whether she could lose her California crown if officials determine that she broke the rules. Prejean has said she did nothing wrong.

Read more: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/05/miss-california.html
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TimesSquareCowboy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:04 PM
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1. This is kind of funny - Trump, whose companies have gone
bankrupt how many times and has been married, what, three times? is going to tell Ms. California all about the sanctity of promises made.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:06 PM
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2. Bidness is bidness.... n/t
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sarah FAILIN Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:54 PM
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17. From what this says, she just isn't showing up
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/05/miss-california-1.html

If they have her scheduled to make an appearance and she doesn't it makes the Miss Ca group look bad, but only Trump is allowed to fire her. Looks like her OFFICIAL 15 minutes might be nearly over and she'll join the ranks of JTP trying to get whatever else she can.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:09 PM
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5. Confederacy of Dunces, Bonfire of the Vanities... It's a classic farce. The one I feel sorry for
is the runner up in the Miss California contest, who had the chance to compete for Miss USA and maybe even win, if Carrie Prejean hadn't decided that honesty and legally binding contracts weren't really rules she had to follow.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:26 PM
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10. exactly!

she spoiled the chances the runner up would have had..
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:48 PM
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15. I really don't feel sorry for any of them. They all know what they are............
.........getting into at that point of a state contest. AND, most of them have had some kind of surgeries to enhance themselves and also taken some questionable pictures at one time or another. I have NEVER watched ANY of those type of "pageants". I don't want this to sound sexist, but in my opinion most if not all the contestants are "whoring" themselves by entering this kind of BS beauty contests.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:58 PM
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19. How can that not sound sexist?
:shrug:

It's not my thing, either, but I long ago gave up the belief that people should only do things I approved of. Well, mostly I've given it up. :)
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:16 PM
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22. Ya know, men can do stuff too that makes them "whores".................
.........Lobbyists are "whores" (male or female), my opinion most salesPEOPLE are whores. I guess that makes me sexist whether I am a male or female in your mind. BUT, I can fucking live with that. The fucking pageants themselves are sexist (whether male or female). That's what pisses me off about some "self described liberals", they want to label everyfuckingbody.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:39 PM
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23. I didn't say you were sexist.
I only commented on your comment.

"Whore" is a word I try not to use, anyway, but when it's directed at a group of women, I really don't see how it can't be sexist. The implication of the word is obvious--it's a word meaning "a woman who has sex more often than others think she should," roughly. So even if used about a man, to me it's sexist because of how what the insult is supposed to mean. To me, calling a white guy by the N word is racist, not because of the attack on the white guy, but because the white guy is supposed to be insulted by being called a derogatory term for an African American. Same with the F word for gays, or any other number of slurs. Calling a lobbyist a "whore" (Won't even get into the debate about lobbyists for the environment, for homeless causes, etc) is saying he's bad because he's like a woman who has sex more often than society wants her to. The sexism isn't to the lobbyist, it's to all women. Calling a group of women "whores" because they enter a pagent, to me, is doubly sexist--because of the use of the word, and because of the demand that they fit someone else's standard of behavior for women.

Just my opinions. Form your own, there's no law. But I was commenting only on your use of the word, not on you or your character. Not sure if your last comment was directed at me or at people who insult pagents.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:24 PM
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30. My last comment on this, because it's turned into a stupid argument.
In my opinion (and I am not using Websters) a whore can be anyone who sells themselves out for money or power in pursuit of something that ANY REASONABLE person would think is immoral, dishonest or in some way petty or in no way contributes to society in a useful way. My last statement in the piece was directed at a lot of liberals that want to "jump the gun" right away if someone uses what they think is the "wrong" term. I think if you are going to use certain words that the whole context of a particular piece has to be taken into consideration. A perfect example of what I am trying to convey is comedy. In comedy it is the context of the piece that makes it funny, no matter what words may be used, you know what is meant and you laugh, you don't (usually) get offended.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:51 PM
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33. I thought it was a smart argument. nt
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:01 PM
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40. I think it got confused by "semantics", or the way different people.........
Edited on Mon May-11-09 07:03 PM by pattmarty
..............perceive a words usage in a particular context. I am probably going to get in some trouble here, but for instance the word "nigger" used to call a person of color is a horrible, disgusting word that is used to denigrate or belittle said person. BUT, I believe that if you are (in a written or spoken piece) using the word to for instance describe the horrible way a person (any person) was or is being treated by an employer, his government or by a certain section of the population it is acceptable to use it, IN THAT CONTEXT. I have for years used "swear words" when I am describing certain things, and have said that "they are only words". I think you have to be very careful here, as some people like yourself, thought I meant something entirely different than what I intended.

edit to add: I lied. The previous piece wasn't my last word on the subject, and yes you were right. It wasn't a stupid argument.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:23 AM
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48. Because it's been a feminist position since at least the 1960's? Not saying it's a
Edited on Tue May-12-09 08:26 AM by No Elephants
correct position. I don't care enough to even ponder it. But, correct or not, it is a long-standing feminist position.

On edit: Ok, now I see you are objecting to a specific word. No, I can't say that I recall feminists using that particular word to describe pageant contestants. Their issue was more like the pageants exploited and objectified women.

nevermind.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 02:54 AM
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44. ive never watched any either
was only saying that the runner up would now feel cheated.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:38 PM
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31. Yeah, it's really a "send in the clowns" kind of thing. nt
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:34 PM
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37. He has nothing to do with this -- the Miss CA people do
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:38 AM
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52. People have been saying he has tthe final decision and will make it today. If so,
I'm betting he backs her up. For a woman "nude or semi nude" usually means that the viewer can see at least one of three areas, breasts, genitals or backside. In her picture, the only thing nude that the viewer could see was her back. And she says that the second picture that surfaced was her face, but not her body.

If he let an alcoholic stay one, he'll let Prejean stay on. He's already saying things like, "She was asked a question and she has beliefs, which she stated."

Thing is, if he let the alcoholic go, that would have ended the free publicity around her and his contest. By keeping her on, he got a few more shots, when she came out of rehab, etcc. And, IMO, so it will be with Prejean: the longer she stays, the more pubicity for his pageant. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad publicity, as long as they spell the name of his pageant correctly.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:38 AM
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51. But he's also not tolerating her working with those fundie nutjobs
If he was one of them he wouldn't be doing this.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:07 PM
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3. Do the additional photos show her nipples?
If not, then the modeling term is "implied nudity," not "semi-nude."
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:09 PM
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4. Face it - they are "implied breasts"
They aren't even real!
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:19 PM
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8. Those who have viewed them say they are more revealing
Edited on Mon May-11-09 02:19 PM by FreeState
which would imply so. Thats all that was not shown in the first picture. I think the bigger problem though is she told pageant officials that there was only one photo and it was taken when she was 17 (both have been proven to be false and are a breach of contract).
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:41 AM
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54. She says the other pictures are not of her body.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:12 PM
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6. That hose is out of the barn
She's already launched her religious wing nut career.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:21 PM
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9. How true
She doesn't need that title anymore. She'll get far more publicity and monetary gains from the anti-gay, religious right industry than she ever would have as just a ribbon cutter for Miss USA events and shopping mall openings.

How many of us can even name an event that the last Miss California participated in? Shit, how many of us can even name the last Miss California?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:46 PM
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14. Haaa! "that hose is out..."
I know you meant 'horse' Still made me laugh.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:50 PM
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16. Heh. It was a Freudian typo. nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:43 AM
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55. Well, if we're talking about Trump...
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:32 PM
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36. Yup, she's their heroine now
and has a big career ahead of her with RWnut media. x(
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:14 PM
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7. Ah, now Prejean is about to learn why from times immemorial they have 'runners-up' in pageants.
It's for this eventuality.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:28 PM
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12. If she is not Miss. California she can't be runner-up Miss. USA.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:35 PM
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13. No, but, a runner-up will be Miss California.
Prejean will be nothing.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:15 PM
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42. If Prejean is no long Miss California ...
The second runner up in the Miss USA pageant will become the "first runner up".

The new Miss California did not compete for Miss USA. She will have the title of Miss California only.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:26 PM
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11. That's the naked truth.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 02:56 PM
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18. She'll be the new fox news anchor.... nm
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:02 PM
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20. She has the requisite intelligence
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:00 PM
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24. Character Assassins Gunning for Miss California, Supporters Say (Fox News)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519796,00.html


The slew of attacks against Miss California USA Carrie Prejean, who answered a question about gay marriage during the Miss USA pageant two weeks ago, have been nothing short of a systematic "character assassination," her supporters say.

"They're really going after her," Focus on the Family President Jim Daley said of Prejean, whose critics have gone so far as to compare her to a Nazi war criminal.

"She's being attacked for her opinion; she's getting creamed for just giving her perspective. It's just another example of the intolerant left.... There seems to be greater scrutiny on her now that she's given that answer," said Daley, whose non-profit Evangelical organization also does not support gay marriage. "I guess in some people's eyes she's become this pariah."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:48 PM
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32. She lied. She posed nude after the boob job.
Off with her head!
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 07:07 PM
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41. That is TOO funny
"another example of the intolerant left."

:rofl:

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:43 PM
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43. she's probably getting "creamed" for more than her opinion nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:10 PM
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21. The devil made her do it
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/11/carrie-prejean-satan-was_n_201687.html

Dobson: Why did you give the answer you did with regard to the affirmation of marriage?

Prejean: . . . I felt as though Satan was trying to tempt me in asking me this question. And then God was in my head and in my heart saying, "Do not compromise this. You need to stand up for me and you need to share with all these people . . . you need to witness to them and you need to show that you're not willing to compromise that for this title of Miss USA."


It's not clear whether Satan took the form of Perez Hilton (something many people believe) or whether it was

MICHAEL PHELPS

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sarah FAILIN Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:05 PM
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25. hmmmm...
Phelps DOES have pointy ears and a goatee...
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:13 PM
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26. And anyone with zero body fat is
"in league" with someone. Know what I mean?

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sarah FAILIN Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:41 PM
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29. I know exactly what you mean.
Also, we all saw the videos of his multiple golds when laser beams shot out of his eyes and flames came from his mouth...

He is rather tempting too, I can see why Eve had such a problem ;)
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dodger501 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:21 PM
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27. Love this comment:
OK librals, listen up!

The Bible tells us that the breasts of a woman are like pillows for the devil and that whosoeverth pass judgement on a woman's breast so shall her breast cleave to the roof of his mouth, or something to that effect.

stop making fun of Christains or I'll sue you for emotional rapage.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:03 PM
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35. That's a million times worse than
the bong shot.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:56 PM
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39. Shoot, her hair and boobs are both fake!
She is not a real blonde either!
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:26 PM
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28. Miss California....YOU'RE FIRED. --- D. Trump
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:01 PM
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34. Miss Not All That is a Liar..so
anything she "says" is subject to investigation.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 06:36 PM
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38. Well she's certainly managed to raise her asking price for her inevitable Playboy spread.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 03:11 AM
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45. Trump is usually lenient on pageant contestants.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:48 AM
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46. Anyone who thinks Trump is going to strip her (no pun intended) of her title
forgets that he allowed an actual Miss USA winner to keep her crown for behavior that wasn't much better than Prejean's
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:27 AM
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50. The new pictures may change that decision...
historically people who lie more than once really piss him off.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:19 AM
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47. Second set of topless photos released
...I wonder if she forgot about these, too (OK for work). :eyes:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:25 AM
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49. You know, it's not the pics that are the big deal
it's the fact that she's a liar. She should have come clean when she signed the contract with the pageant about the pics (ALL of them). Then she had the opportunity to come clean again when she was faced with the first set of photos, too. I guess she thinks it's ok to only believe that part about the Bible which will suit her own pride and need for attention and skip over everything else.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:39 AM
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53. Oops! There she goes again...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:56 AM
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56. The backside in the photos linked on this thread looks different to me than the backside of the
photo in which she is in pink panties. I think some good photoshopping may have been going on. Then again, I am not an expert on either doctored photos or female backsides.
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