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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 03:55 PM
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Hindus urge Nepal to award highest civilian honor to UK actress Joanna Lumley
Source: Thaindian News

Hindus have urged Nepal Government to award its highest civilian honor to BAFTA winner actress Joanna Lumley for leading Gurkhas to victory in a high profile campaign for residency rights in United Kingdom (UK).

Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that Lumley (Absolutely Fabulous) 63, had been the public face of the campaign on behalf of the Gurkhas and lead a long tiring struggle to success.

Zed, who is president of Universal Society of Hinduism, pointed out that India should also be proud of her, because Lumley was born there in 1946, and give her one of the Padma awards for her human and animal rights campaigns. Lumley, whose father was an officer with the 6th Gurkha Rifles, is a vegetarian.

It was remarkable how she handled UK Immigration Minister Phil Woolas during Gurkha campaign, who later acknowledged that the actress had “given a focus” to the campaign, and that she had “campaigned tirelessly” for the Gurkhas.



Read more: http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/hindus-urge-nepal-to-award-highest-civilian-honor-to-uk-actress-joanna-lumley_100196202.html
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 04:03 PM
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1. The Ghurkas have been one of the British Empires
most storied military units, fighting for "King/Queen and country" in dozens of the Empires' wars. They have earned the right to live wherever they want within the empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 05:55 PM
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8. Well, the empire is long gone
Still, the United Kingdom has a lot to offer.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:03 PM
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9. The empire is still here, it's just morphed.
And the Gurkhas did their part to secure it for the "British".

It was the Gurkhas that did most of the fighting (and dying) in the Boer Wars.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:08 PM
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10. OK it exists only in your mind
If that's "morphed", so be it! lol
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:25 PM
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11. Uh, no... there is still the British Commonwealth.
Which includes the nations of Canada, Australia, South Africa, and India. Over 31 million sq km of land.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

"The Commonwealth comprises fifty-three of the world's countries, across all six inhabited continents. The members have a combined population of 2.1 billion people, almost a third of the world population."

It has trade agreements and defense agreements still in place since the time of empire. The Queen of England is still the head of state for many of the member nations.

Not exactly a figment of my imagination, now is it?

You can't possibly be as ignorant as you come off, can you?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:27 PM
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12. Let's see in your world commonwealth = (empire)morphed
Did I get the math right? lol
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:41 PM
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14. The Commonwealth is a mostly ceremonial organization
The Queen has no claims over most countries, like India, Pakistan, South Africa, etc.

But she is still the symbolic sovereign for some countries, like Canada, Australia, etc. No real power though. Not sure why the Canadians and Auzzies can't get rid of her. They keep voting/legislating to keep her around. Ugh!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:43 PM
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15. No political power
but there are other associations... trade deals, multi-national corporations, and interlocking defense treaties.

If the British get in another scrape somewhere (and not one of our doing) they will call on the Canadians and the Aussies... and the Gurkhas. Just like they have before.
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:01 PM
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16. Interesting citizenship oath in Canada...
I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfill my duties as a Canadian citizen.

In this day and age to bear allegiance to a person/family is pretty crazy, IMHO. I know it's symbolic, but I'm happy I didn't have to bear allegiance to Dubya when I took my US citizenship oath!!! (thank you Founding Fathers for making the Constitution above all - now let's just get our leaders/reps to follow it!)

I did have to see a video of Dubya welcoming me as a US citizen though. Probably the only time I actually welcomed his words - the moment was much more important than the person! I did tear up a bit when they played some of the videos, I think it was "I'm proud to be an American," but I was so euphoric I can hardly remember.

But I digress...
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:17 PM
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17. "trade deals, multi-national corporations, and interlocking defense treaties."
Well isn't that great! I belong to the British Empire AND the American Empire.

"If the British get in another scrape somewhere" weird I don't remember the Canadian troops

fighting against Argentina in 83.And we're in Afghanistan because we are part of NATO not the

Commonwealth.Can you do some research before trashing another country ?



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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 11:31 PM
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18. Trashing?
having foreign treaties with Great Britain is now "trashing" some country?

Is Canada part of the Commonwealth or not?

Simple question.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 02:15 AM
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21. Those are two questions.

Answer to the first question: Nope.

Saying nonsense about a country that you seem to know nothing about except that it's part of the

Commonwealth but have no clue what that even implies and ignoring the fact that for a majority

of Canadians this issue is a sensitive one is trashing it.


Answer to the second question: Gee! :eyes:

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 05:17 AM
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22. The OP was about the Gurkhas and their right to live where they want to
I answered that they earned that right by, what, 2 or 3 centuries of service to the crown of Great Britain.

The British Empire existed, even the US was part of it at one point. So was Canada and a lot of other nations.

It has morphed into something else. A Commonwealth of nations.

None of those statements are inaccurate.

I did not "trash" any country that is part of the Empire that was or the Commonwealth that is.

You seem to be very sensitive to the subject.

And yet there are Canadians posting here all the time opining about US politics... you might even be one of those. Last time I checked, I haven't been posting at any Canadian site on the internal politics of Canada... funny about that double standard.

In fact, in my post, I only LISTED Canada as a member of the Commonwealth, along with Australia and a number of other countries. That certainly isn't "top secret" information, is it? Sensitive? Maybe you should stick to Canadian political boards, hey?

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 05:20 AM
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23. Well congratulations !
You just proved my point.
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DrCory Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:33 AM
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30. Check Your History...
NOT so in the Boer Wars.

"It was the Gurkhas that did most of the fighting (and dying) in the Boer Wars."


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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 04:25 PM
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2. Kick
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 04:26 PM
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3. k&r for the Gurkhas
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 04:42 PM
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4. Absolutely fabulous, sweetie darling!
I'm PM-ing the link to this thread to DU-er Patsy Stone!



:bounce:
rocktivity
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:48 PM
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13. Ditto!
:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 05:04 PM
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5. I highly approve this message!
"63?! I'll sue!"

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 05:43 PM
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6. Lol!
She is fabulous. (Check out "Class Act" if you haven't already)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 05:48 PM
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7. Cheers!


(And, anyone doing a google images search for "Patsy Stone" will only have to get to page three to find a picture of KO.)
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 01:25 PM
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28. I fucking love Patsy
That is all.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:55 AM
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29. This was a bit of a 'Patsy' moment:
It was followed by an extraordinary piece of theatre, when Ms Lumley clashed with Phil Woolas, the Immigration Minister, in the BBC’s Westminster studios and quickly won public assurances over future policy at an impromptu joint press conference.

The two are now the best of friends after she invited him to join her and Gurkha campaigners at a champagne and fish-and-chip supper at her flat on Wednesday night.

“I invited him round for supper at my house, and because I had been filming I could only get in fish and chips, but I did have champagne,” said Ms Lumley.

“So we had a very good meeting last night, six of us huddled around a table having quite a good time, I must say.”

Ms Lumley added: “And last night, I’m pleased to say we kissed on the doorstep, so there we are.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6333820.ece


Very 'Patsy' - no food in the house, so take-away fish and chips, but there's always a bottle of Bolly available!
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 10:35 AM
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31. lol!
:rofl:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 12:15 AM
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19. Bravo. I love Patsey. nm
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 01:37 AM
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20. Having experienced the wonder that is the people of Nepal,
I wish them all the very best. Being with them had the effect of opening up my heart, and appreciating what was before me.

The British government enlisted them, and nurtured their abilities, and they were repaid many times over by the Ghurkas.

Honoring their contribution to Britain is a noble exercise in acknowledging where one really comes from, and who "one" really is.


Namaste.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:07 AM
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24. Loved her as Sapphire, hilarious in "Are You Being Served?"
Edited on Sun May-24-09 08:08 AM by Deja Q
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 11:16 PM
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25. Gurkhas are nothing more than mercenaries who kill people for money
They're the Blackwater of the UK; I spit on their attempts to gain citizenship, just as I spit on all mercenaries.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 11:42 PM
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26. Nepal is one of the poorest countries in the world
It's easy to take the moral high ground when you're not in another man's shoes.

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 10:22 AM
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27. Nice to see that your ignorance of the UK hasn't changed.
> Gurkhas are nothing more than mercenaries who kill people for money

Same as any soldier of any army in the world (real armies that is,
not just the dick-twiddling wannabes who call themselves "militias").

:eyes:

I'd much rather have gurkhas become citizens than many of the existing
categories of "non-mercenaries".
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