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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:58 AM
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Pakistan built up army against India with US military aid
Source: Times of India

Pakistan has used a substantial amount of military aid from the US meant to fight terrorism to build up its army with modern weapons
and equipment for a conventional warfare against India, Pentagon documents have revealed. ( Watch )

All this was done with the knowledge of the then Bush administration, which not only provided $1.9 billion in foreign military financing (FMF) but also signed agreements with Pakistan for military sales worth nearly $5 billion during the period, showed the documents.

The Pentagon documents also revealed that a major post-9/11 American defence supply to Pakistan under FMF had nothing to do with its fight against terrorism.

While the Taliban and al-Qaida gained ground in the tribal areas of Pakistan bordering Afghanistan, Islamabad bought eight P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft and their refurbishment worth $474 million. It also placed orders for 5,250 TOW anti-armour missiles worth $186 million. 2,007 of these have already been delivered and the rest are in the process of being supplied.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pak-misusing-US-military-aid-against-India/articleshow/4624601.cms



This a no brainer. We have to stop ALL aid to Pakistan unless they agree to scrap their nukes or turn control over to us. There also needs to be a very strict accounting and audits so this doesn't happen.

India is far more important as an ally to the US than Pakistan can ever be.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:13 AM
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1. That's ironic. Pakistan buys weapons and conventional military hardware to use
against India when there is no active ongoing theater of war, and then they don't use it against the Taliban, which intends to overthrow their government.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:05 AM
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2. And then there was the 50 million dollar present from W...
A Creeping Collapse in Credibility at the White House:

From ENRON Entanglements to UNOCAL Bringing the Taliban to Texas and Controlling Afghanistan

By Tom Turnipseed

snip...

Back in Houston, the Taliban was learning how the "other half lives," and according to The Telegraph, "stayed in a five-star hotel and were chauffeured in a company minibus." The Taliban representatives "...were amazed by the luxurious homes of Texan oil barons. Invited to dinner at the palatial home of Martin Miller, a vice-president of Unocal, they marveled at his swimming pool, views of the golf course and six bathrooms." Mr. Miller, said he hoped that UNOCAL had clinched the deal.

Dick Cheney was then CEO of Haliburton Corporation, a pipeline services vendor based in Texas. Gushed Cheney in 1998, "I can't think of a time when we've had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian. It's almost as if the opportunities have arisen overnight. The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratically elected regimes friendly to the United States. Occasionally we have to operate in places where, all things considered, one would not normally choose to go. But we go where the business is." Would Cheney bargain with the harborers of U.S. troop killers if that's where the business was?

The Telegraph reported that Unocal had promised to start building the pipeline and paying the Taliban immediately, with the added inducements and a donation of £500,000 to the University of Nebraska for courses in Afghanistan to train 400 teachers, electricians, carpenters and pipefitters.

The Telegraph also reported, "The US government, which in the past has branded the Taliban's policies against women and children "despicable", appears anxious to please the fundamentalists to clinch the lucrative pipeline contract." In a paper prepared by Neamatollah Nojumi, at the Tufts University Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, Nojumi wrote in August 1997 that Madeline Albright sat in a "full-dress CIA briefing" on the Caspian region. CIA agents then accompanied "some well-trained petroleum engineers" to the region. Albright concluded that shaping the region's policies was "one of the most exciting things that we can do." MORE...

http://www.counterpunch.org/tomenron.html

And then there's this too...

The US's nuclear cave-in
By Joseph Cirincione

Buffeted by political turmoil at home, US President George W Bush sought a foreign-affairs victory in India. To clinch a nuclear-weapons deal, Bush had to give in to demands from the Indian nuclear lobby to exempt large portions of the country's nuclear infrastructure from international inspection.

With details of the deal still under wraps, it appears that at least one-third of current and planned Indian reactors would be exempt from International Atomic Energy Agency inspections and that Bush gave in to Indian demands for "Indian-specific" inspections that would fall far short of the normal, full-scope inspections originally sought.

Worse, Indian officials have made clear that India alone will decide which future reactors will be kept in the military category and exempt from any safeguards. MORE...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HC04Df03.html

Bush Administration Stokes Dangerous Arms Race on Indian Subcontinent

snip...


For more than two decades, arms control experts have argued that the most likely scenario for the hostile use of nuclear weapons was not between the former Cold War superpower rivals, an act of terrorism by an underground terrorist group, or the periodically threatened unilateral U.S. attack against a “rogue state,” but between India and Pakistan. These two South Asian rivals have fought each other in three major wars—in 1947, 1965, and 1971—and have engaged in frequent border clashes in recent years in the disputed Kashmir region, coming close to another all-out war as recently as 2002.

It is ironic, then, that President George W. Bush—who reiterated in the 2004 presidential campaign that his primary concern was the proliferation of nuclear materials—is actively pursuing policies which will likely increase the risk of a catastrophic nuclear confrontation on the Indian subcontinent. MORE...

http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/170

And so, I ask myself these two questions, Just exactly how, did George Bush Dick Cheney and the "Leaders" in the GOP, "make America a safer place?" How did the neocons, the PNAC and the republican "Leaders" in congress, folks like Arlan Specter, Lindsey Graham and John McCain,(the ones who totally abandoned their posts in the congressional oversight department for 8 years and voted along straight hard right party lines, like goose stepping ugly ducklings in a row) "make the world a safer place for Americans to live?"




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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:09 AM
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3. Great. If India and Pakistan have a war, good luck getting tech support on the phone. n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:21 AM
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5. Oh well find other countries to outsource to
But there's just too much money to be made by the Military Industrial Complex for us not to eventually help Pakistan and India destroy each other. The Military Channel alone will be orgasmic from all the new nuclear detonation footage they'll get.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:14 PM
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9. Okay, that's funny.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:19 AM
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4. Another one from the "No Shit Sherlock" file.
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nyy1998 Donating Member (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:58 AM
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6. damn took the words out of my mouth(or keyboard)
Whoever is surprised by this is really naive about global affairs
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:51 AM
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7. of course -- because it's so important to be armed
to the teeth against a neighbor you're not at war with.

:crazy:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:31 PM
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10. It is if 1) they want to destroy you; and 2) they arm themselves to the teeth first.
Also if they get in bed with the Soviets, then I hate to break it to people here, but India's stupidity and selfishness helped create the Pakistan of today.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:48 PM
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11. yeah yeah yeah
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 09:49 PM by cosmicone
India's stupidity created the undemocratic, military ruled, ISI infiltrated, terror espousing, terror using, terror exporting, mostly uneducated, armed and beggar around the world for money Pakistan of today :rofl:

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:36 PM
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12. Glad that we can finally agree on something.
:rofl:
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 09:53 AM
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14. Amazing
You don't get :sarcasm: do you?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:04 AM
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15. You have incriminated yourself, Mr. 18-year-old going on 12.
"undemocratic, military ruled, ISI infiltrated, terror espousing, terror using, terror exporting, mostly uneducated, armed and beggar around the world for money Pakistan of today"

Go change your diapers.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:58 AM
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16. But ... but ...
just two posts above, you said you agreed with me :rofl:
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:20 AM
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8. Jr. was taking a play from Sr. play book. We sell them weapons.
Then invade them for having the weapons we sold them. Why not? It worked with Iraq.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:17 AM
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13. Old news. nt
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