Democrats ask court to block NY Senate coup

clear eye

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Thu Jun-11-09 11:38 AM
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Democrats ask court to block NY Senate coup

Source: Middletown Times Herald-Record Online

Posted: June 11, 2009 - 9:30 AM
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- The New York Senate's Democratic conference says it's headed to court to try to block the coalition that claims it took the majority power of the chamber Monday in a parliamentary power grab.

Democratic spokesman Austin Shafran says the conference will seek a court order to block the coalition of Republicans and two dissident Democrats from opening the Senate session Thursday.

Read more: http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090611/NEWS/90611014

They previously issued a condemnation of unnamed Senators who "let down" New Yorkers by actions not in "the interest of the people they were elected to serve". http://nydems.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/developments-in-the-state-senate/

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WriteDown

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Thu Jun-11-09 11:41 AM
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1. Its become a circus.

This shouldn't be decided by fiat. Let them use the coup as an issue to dominate in the next election.

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Thu Jun-11-09 11:44 AM
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2. Apparently The Senate Was Adjourned When The Repubs Staged Their Coup

So it was not a valid or legal.

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Thu Jun-11-09 11:46 AM
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3. The Democrats tried to adjourn...but didn't have the votes.

They then continued to pretend that they had adjourned.
Adjournment needs a majority approval. That obviously didn't happen.

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qazplm

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Thu Jun-11-09 11:49 AM
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4. ok even if that is true

when they come back, it's just going to happen again anyways, isn't this delaying the inevitable?

It is what it is, two corrupt Dems went to the highest bidder. There is sometimes a price for doing the right thing and in this case, it is that we have to wait a little longer til these two yahoos are in jail and/or out of office and can be replaced with two at least slightly less corrupt folks to put in there and regain the majority.

What court would rule on this? Are the Dems going to not open another session until, well when exactly because they know the moment they do this will happen again and will be valid and legal, however despicable?

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nykym

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Thu Jun-11-09 11:57 AM
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5. From what I have heard the

two offending soon to be wards of the the state, never actually renounced their party affiliations so........

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AlbertCat

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Thu Jun-11-09 12:52 PM
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7. never actually renounced their party affiliations so...

... the Dems still have a majority, do they not? If two Dems refuse to conduct business with their declared party, fine, but this does not make Repugs the majority in the state senate. When the turncoats actually buck up enough courage to change parties, then they can be recalled or something...

Or is all that too reasonable and logical for politics?

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aquart

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Thu Jun-11-09 02:44 PM
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10. It's reasonable to me.

I'm busy fantasizing grinding Golasano for cat food.

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clear eye

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Thu Jun-11-09 03:01 PM
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12. Doesn't go by parties, unfortunately

Seems the NYS Senate rules demand a majority "conference" not majority party to control the body. Rules were probably created before parties became a major force.

Of course since we elect state Senators under the assumption that the majority party will control the Senate, it is a clear betrayal for renegade Dem Senators to form a "conference" with all the Republican Senators.

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Thu Jun-11-09 12:03 PM
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6. From what I heard

the court allowed the Repub's to go into session. But, of course no Dems showed up so they got nothing done. I even heard scumbag conspirator #1 Hiram walked out because there were no Dems. What an Asshole.

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Thu Jun-11-09 02:26 PM
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8. NYT has an update on this now--Monserrate walked out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/12/nyregion/12albany.html
Attempt to Open NY State Senate Session Falters

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aquart

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Thu Jun-11-09 02:42 PM
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9. Oh, what a good Democrat he is.

"“You can’t have coalition government with two Democrats,” he said. “We need to continue to work on that. My role here is to make sure the Democratic Party is at the table.”"

I hope he's eaten by starving dock rats.

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clear eye

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Thu Jun-11-09 02:45 PM
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11. And the same article indicated a same-sex marriage bill might take the strangest route

Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 02:52 PM by clear eye

I've ever heard of to become law. Espada is using bringing it to the floor as bait for Dem participation in the session tomorrow.

It also reported that the legitimacy of the new coalition conference would be put before a judge tomorrow morning, before the time the coalition planned on having their arguments ready, so, depending on the actions of the judge, the session might never take place.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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