US rejects victory claim by Iran's Ahmadinejad

Source: Yahoo/AP

NIAGARA FALLS, Ontario – The U.S. on Saturday refused to accept hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's claim of a landslide re-election victory in Iran and said it was looking into allegations of election fraud.
"We are monitoring the situation as it unfolds in Iran, but we, like the rest of the world, are waiting and watching to see what the Iranian people decide," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said at a news conference with Canada's foreign affairs minister, Lawrence Cannon.
Minutes after Clinton spoke, the White House released a two-sentence statement praising "the vigorous debate and enthusiasm that this election generated, particularly among young Iranians," but expressing concern about "reports of irregularities


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090613/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_us_iran

I'm so sick of evil fucks...

of election "irregularities" and maybe with this news my phone will finally ring.

Hello FBI. Hello NoOH USA. I'm still waiting by the phone ..... Hello Blackwell.... Hello :rofl:

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And god knows we wouldn't want anyone's feelings to be hurt. :banghead:

:shrug:

Given our 1953 involvement in Iran and our lousy track record with our own elections, the best thing we could do here is to shut up. Let the Iranian people work this out on their own.

:think:

Lemme guess, they will bring in programmers from Diebolt to investigate it? :sarcasm:

WTF?
:dem:

That's the one.

So Hillary has live blog updates showing upheaval ?

count is accurate.

Iranian presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi was reportedly arrested Saturday following the reformist's defeat at the polls by hardliner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Supporters of Mousavi, the main challenger to Ahmadinejad, have responded to the election with the most serious unrest in Tehran in a decade and claim that the result was the work of a dictatorship.


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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1092304.html


I think a 48 hr rule needs to be invoked.
Even though the mullahs control the media, the news blackouts point to a coup imo......

Four years ago, bloggers showed pics of empty polling stations...... now the state claims 85% turnout?

If they did a recount, I wonder if 105% turnout would be the result

Which way does the youth lean ?




75% of the population is under 30 ...


and imo

they don't trust what they just saw

In 2000 or 04

The average (non-rich) Iranian has definitely not forgotten the reign of terror that the US government caused their country. A US "rejection" of their election results will definitely make president Ahmadinejad all the more popular.

Or are you saying it is the CIA that put Anutjob back in for another four years :shrug:

I oppose all forms of meddling in other countries' internal affairs.

The US has NO moral, legal, or ethical leg to stand on when pointing at Iranian elections.

That being said, I hope the Iranians are able to solve this problem,
just like I hope we are able to solve our One Corporate Party political problem.

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:thumbsup:

courtesy of crime in America. :(

and are not as anti-US as they are portrayed in our media. The problem is that, barring a serious constitutional challenge to their authority, the conservative clerics hold all the trumps to pretty much everything in Iranian politics.

I doubt the youth get very high grades when in school and tested on their own glorious "ancient" history courses




and as for the wall murals dipicting how cruel life is in america as drawn up by those you can't trust over the age of 40 ??



The youth of Tehran probably want it on their CD covers



jmo

unless they're perfect and their country has a perfect historical record, too.

We can take a powerful lesson from Calvinist Puritans: the only persons entitled to moralize and criticize are the "Elect."

By withholding all criticism of government abuses anyplace in the world we will cause the power abusers to feel spontaneous remorse. They will voluntarily cease their corruptions and set themselves instead to earnest study of the examples set by their moral superiors.

:sarcasm:

for the record, while I'm very critical of the US for the 1953 coup, I don't see what the US did back then means that the US shouldn't speak up now when it comes to suspicions of a rigged election...

The added sarcasm tag helps. Given some of the posts I've read here though I actually thought it was serious. For what it's worth, I completely agree with your above post.

Past mistakes from a generation ago doesn't make the US in any less of a position to call out fraudulent elections when they occur.

I always laugh and shake my head when people don't see that someone's post is sarcastic and get really mad. It's about time the same thing happened to me. I had it coming.

"US rejects victory claim by Iran's Ahmadinejad ..."

So what? Who cares about the US rejection? Certainly not Ahmadinejad.

what would have happened in the USA if Obama had magically lost the election.

Could you imagine if that had happened? I seriously doubt the people here would have
risen up against it, and omg, having that party run out government.. >>shiver<<< too scary
to think about.

oh, and the 2000 election fraud? Shrub did not win either one of those elections.

in the streets look like what OUR streets SHOULD have looked like in 2000 (and 2004 as well). It's incredible to see the masses protesting the way they are even in the face of a government that doesn't take too kindly to detractors. I agree that I hope the Iranian people are able to sort this out for themselves, however. Incredible to be witnessing this history.

to show their support for him, while not overtly coming out and saying so.

dirty elections.

Y'know, if it was just the US saying the election results were stinky, I'd probably pay that as little heed as much else the US says, but in this case it's being said by Iranians themselves. I don't think it's hypocritical for the US to voice suspicion on the validity of the election, and think people who are posting that it is are indulging in a bit of the same thing that I see from the Hasbara brigade in the I/P forum, where any time Israel is criticised, they accuse the criticiser of being hypocritical by pointing to something they've done in the past (eg the UK has no right to criticise as it was involved in the Iraq war). Maybe coz I'm not an American, I'm really failing to see why this is about past US elections rather than the Iranian election from yesterday...

:)
ETA: The allegation was that those of us bringing up our own bad elections are somehow apologists for Ahmadinejad -- which is beyond silly. I recognize more than one poster who also posts to the Election Reform forum.

keeping it fair and open ?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e2_1244936838
These things usually fall into place in 48 hrs. I'm very interested in which countries will hold off on protocol longer then normal

just sayin

Venezuela's Chavez praises Ahmadinejad's "great victory"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3923250

As President and call it even. LOL! At least then we could seat Al.

not to appear to be meddling in domestic Iranian affairs. That will incite enmity both in Iran and across the muslim world. But we should cautiously monitor the situation. We can only hope that the people will finally give the clerics the boot and move this country to its rightful place on the world stage. Persia has a long history of pre-eminence in regional affairs.

Courtesy of Craig Ferguson.

Who can say it without looking like a hypocrite. Something many in this thread seem to be forgetting.

... I wonder if they don't do that they would have nothing left to do.

Or could the people be fed up after being fooled twice by then ?

10 min video on the 2009 election recap prior to the actual vote;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_AlInPZEcM&feature=PlayList&p=D4AA27F8C4B6588C&index=1&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6498787.ece


Violent protests in Iran 'not important' claims president

snip

Mr Ahmadinejad dismissed the unrest – the worst in a decade in Tehran – as "not important". He said Friday's vote was "real and free" and insisted the results showing his landslide victory were fair and legitimate

snip




About 2,000 students at the nearby Tehran University chanted anti-government slogans and taunted riot police across the road outside. Some threw stones at police when they chased protesters trying to gather at the university gates.

snip

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/world/Violent-protests-in-Iran-39not.5364711.jp


Students protested and all they got was a few rubber bullet souvenirs pressed into their teenage flesh that said
"Here's your vote"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QueD9nORuY

Pot to kettle.....you black? Not me kettle, yo black pot? No. of course not. Then we all be good, right? Ya, *voting* just works great for us, pot and kettle. Bob

makes me wonder if this is not actually playing out like the “Bay of Pigs”....(current century version)

A counter-revolution played out for the world that perhaps never existed?

One way or the other – interesting!

The one of the guy eating a bowl of cereal watching the Berlin Wall comming down "Live"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rlQqWbp7rY&feature=related