Leaked election results show Mahmoud Ahmadinejad came in third

Source: Telegraph

Mr Mousavi's cancellation of the protest came as sporadic disturbances continued around the Iranian capital, and reports circulated of leaked interior ministry statistics showing him as the clear victor in last Friday's polls. The statistics, circulated on Iranian blogs and websites, claimed Mr Mousavi had won 19.1 million votes while Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won only 5.7 million. The two other candidates, reformist Mehdi Karoubi and hardliner Mohsen Rezai, won 13.4 million and 3.7 million respectively. The authenticity of the leaked figures could not be confirmed.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5540211/Iran-protest-cancelled-as-leaked-election-results-show-Mahmoud-Amadinejad-came-third.html

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Holy shit! Also heard Hackmydinnerjob has canceled a planned trip to Russia. This is getting interesting!

Wearing green today in support! The Green Revolution!

Update: Reports coming in on Twitter claim the protest/rally is on. Here are some twitters:

-- "confirmed - khatami, karoubi and mousavi are amongst ppl"
-- "Unconfirmed reports of 3,000,000 people marching on streets of Tehran"
-- "BBC Persian again saying that Karroubi Khatami and Mousavi are in the rally right now"
-- "Crowds everywhere in Tehran, blocking streets, no vehicles can enter there"

http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23iranelection

It is an extremely volatile fluid situation but clearly something is happening in Iran.

seems to prize gut-wrench over verifiability in choosing what to publish and since what's printed often has a rightwing spin

Then make up your mind what is truth.

get your stories straight, wouldja?

There where millions to count and all hand casted votes.
This is how we know it was a fraud because they
stated the winner two hours after the polls closed.
So no poll results. If the dictator has his way there never will be.

I think there will be redo.

missed the c and the k

:thumbsup:

The stolen election crowd never has one coherent narrative. It's always a "throw a bunch of shit at the wall and see what sticks" sorta operation. That way, in two years, when some nuts are still arguing about this, somebody can post a link to the story as if it is established fact, and demand that somebody else "explain this!" It's the usual tomfoolery. First, we're told "according to Twitter" that votes weren't counted. Then we're told that they were counted, but the count falsified. Then we'll be told that people were prevented from voting, then that the ballots were soured, then that the count was finessed "according to statistics gathered by anonymous sources" and countless other variations on the theme.

The point of all these versions is not to find truth, but to flood the information space with rumors, it being clear that people believe what they want to believe, so the more rumors you send out there, the higher the probability that some subset of people will want to believe one. It's the usual procedure for laying out conspiracy theories and crisis management press releases: multiply belief-options in order to drag the pond of the stupid.

makes it more efficient and undetecable, which is why we shouldn't have junk electronics pretending it's a voting system that works. Ballot stuffing true from the beginning of time.

Truism about paranoia an just because we think they're out to get us, doesn't mean they aren't, works well here.

but we have been accepting our election thefts since 2000 like sheep? And yes I think there were vote thefts in 2008--Obama's actual win was much larger than the official tally, and we had several Congressional seats stolen from us. The Blue Dogs would be irrelevant if all the winning Dems had been seated.

We might actually learn something from this "backward" country.

more interested in cramming double-handfuls of butter down their gullets while watching American Idol than in their own democracy.

by and let Shit-for-Brains steal 2 elections in the US...

worker bees like we are.

They're not staying inside of the designated free-speech zones!

:spank:

... could fly some operatives in Brooks Brothers suits over to Iran on corporate jets.

Who are these signs written for?

Yeah, this isn't part of an orchestrated propaganda campaign or anything.

:rofl:

All this is going to do is harm the opposition in Iran.

And puts the lie to any claim that participation on this board (or in the left blogosphere in general) makes one more "media savvy."

This whole Iranian election is a laughable event in the history of these boards, perhaps rivaled only by the humiliating "Karl Rove About the be Indicted" fiasco.

But the extent of any fraud, if any, is unclear, and it is also unclear who is the beneficiary. The main opposition candidate hobbled his chances by espousing right-wing privatization economic policies. It's pretty simple actually.

PB

That the joke is on you. The election was so clearly stolen that it is laughable. I know the media is biased but that isn't what is going on here. Sorry to spoil your party but this one isn't about indoctrinated media versus the truth.

http://www.juancole.com/2009/06/stealing-iranian-election.html

I won't even deny that Ahmadinejad could have won the election, but there is no way in hell he won by that margin. I'll be the first to admit that our media is biased here but it is pretty damn obvious what happened.

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We aren't getting your sarcasm. Maybe you are (I kinda hope so) but if so you need to let people who don't know you, and your standard level of sarcasm, what you really mean. Otherwise discourse becomes essentially meaningless like it is on most other boards.

The level of so-called certainty on the alleged fixedness of the Iranian election is clownish.

like most everything else in our world. I'm pretty sure the 2004 U.S. election was at least partially stolen in Ohio. I'm almost certain the 2000 US election was stolen in Florida. This is demographically much more certain than the Florida election at the same point in the process. More evidence will leak and we are already starting to see that. The election was stolen - I'd be astounded if I now discovered that it was not.

Many people here are talking out of their hats. I'm not talking about Cartesian certainty. I'm talking about a bunch of people being suckers for a media narrative on the basis of knowing jackshit about it.

Keeping it fair and open ?


why?




Juan Cole, President of the Global Americana Institute, has more power then A-job.

( I saw that article saturday )

See,
Even Juan knows the mullahs purity laws only found four "worthy" to run for president.


lol


When does Barack meet with his Iranian counterpart...whoever it will be decided he is ;)

stolen, versus the United States. Maybe they learned from our example...

more here: http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f35_After_Elections_Pics_I/1753506.html

Protesters in our own country are always ridiculed. Remember when antiwar protesters blocked bridges and a few idiots burned cars at the base of the Bay Bridge. Remember how that was reported. Also remember how the protests at the Bush inauguration were reported? The protesters in Iran are being honored and respected by our media (despite violence like burning cars) which goes out of its way to show their plight. I agree that their cause is very just but the double standard in our media is remarkable.

on every channel. However, if they were protesting to end war or to provide universal health care then they are "radicals" or anti-American. Does anybody remember the civil rights violations of the left at the Rethug convention?

watching Michael Moore's movie? How many knew of the Black Caucus BEGGING for a Senator, just one Senator, to support their move to stop Bush?

While their military is busy, "busting a few skulls"

Is that a euphemism? Is your real meaning too terrible for words?

Heaven forbid that Israel would actually have to engage in diplomacy secondary to nuclear deterent from a non-Jewish neighbor. That would be bad of course, then Israel couldn't bully around the region with impunity.

J

Because an attack now would be the most destabilizing time possible. To attack now would mean that Israel would be dealing with the regime while it is the most paralyzed and paranoid. That means that the regime would have the highest probability of reacting irrationally. That's a terrifying thought unless you are trying to hasten World War IV.

Frankly Chucky, I don't think that is such a good idea.

Where the f--k do you get that from my post -----The Guys "busting Skulls" are the ones below. They control the MISSILE FORCES.

But do you want these Nut-JOBS to have the bomb?

The Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution (Persian: سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی , Sepáh e Pásdárán e Enqeláb e Eslámi) is a branch of Iran's military, founded after the Iranian revolution. The force's main role is in national security, responsible for internal and border security, as well as law enforcement. It is also responsible for Iran's missile forces. The operations of the IRGC are geared towards asymmetric warfare and less traditional duties.

THIS IS NOT THE ARMY these Nut Jobs are supervised by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

The Revolutionary Guard, an elite military force answering to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (Elected by NOBODY)

IL EST VRAI, DÉSOLÉ

and their article says they got it from Iranian blogs ?

If you google everything goes to either the Teegraph article as the origin or DU !

Most likely there will be a redo election.

as the announced official results.

Source: Telegraph U.K.

Iran's reformist presidential candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi has called off a major rally to protest last Friday's election results, amid claims police had been cleared to open fire on protesters.

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Mr Mousavi's cancellation of the protest came as sporadic disturbances continued around the Iranian capital, and reports circulated of leaked interior ministry statistics showing him as the clear victor in last Friday's polls.

The statistics, circulated on Iranian blogs and websites, claimed Mr Mousavi had won 19.1 million votes while Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won only 5.7 million.

The two other candidates, reformist Mehdi Karoubi and hardliner Mohsen Rezai, won 13.4 million and 3.7 million respectively. The authenticity of the leaked figures could not be confirmed.




Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/5540211/Iran-protest-cancelled-as-leaked-election-results-show-Mahmoud-Amadinejad-came-third.html

all purporting to be leaked election results.

Since incumbents are generally rubberstamped there, I'd expect to see a close election with obvious regional strongholds for both candidates. However, the "count" was done in record time and the margin of "victory" was exactly the same across the country, even in Mousavi's home town, an area he was predicted to sweep.

I don't think the ballots were counted at all, the government just pulled the numbers out of their asses.

The people know it, too.

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Wow, see how easy it is to start a rumour in an emotionally charged environment with a lot of money at stake?

Ahmadinejad would win.

They said Mousavi took Tehran, but not everywhere else.

The UK's main right-wing daily and supporter of the Iraq War, Bush and the Neocons.

It's amazing what some DUers will believe.