Calif regulators find pot smoke causes cancer

Source: Sacramento Bee

SAN FRANCISCO -- Marijuana smoke has joined tobacco smoke and hundreds of other chemicals on a list of substances California regulators say cause cancer.

The ruling Friday by the Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment likely will force pot shops with 10 or more employees to post warnings. Final guidelines are expected by the time warning requirements take effect in a year.

The listing only applies to marijuana smoke, not the plant itself.

Spokesman Sam Delson says the state agency found marijuana smoke contains 33 of the same harmful chemicals as tobacco smoke.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/1961900.html

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Something about this just doesn't smell right.

Eating carrots probably causes cancer if you eat like 1000 of them every day for 84 years.

ANYTHING can cause cancer if repeated often enough.

This is just propaganda fear bullshit.

This story is complete horseshit.

now if it isnt smoked...

My doctors sure don't waste my time with that "all smoke is bad for you" bullshit.

You have to balance things. It raises the risk of coming down with cancer a couple degrees. It might be worth it depending on the benefits you get.

:shrug:

NT!

Like tobacco and alcohol, two other carcinogenic drugs.

leaglize it!

pot was getting too much positive press and the powers that be were getting nervous.

California regulators cause diarrhea! (just ask my mommy)

BAM!! time for a lesson in cannabis salad making with crumbly black hashish. it's a GOOD thing!

People tend to get paranoia more often from eating it.

seems a non-issue.

Still goes 186,000 miles per second to get here and give people cancer.
The kids all love it, even though.

Red meat is still popular too. Asscancer! But nobody cares.

In the last four decades tobacco consumption has been cut in half in the USA.

legally. The fact that it causes cancer (among other things) hasn't seemed to result in it being banned.

has just put out a report that says the EXACT OPPOSITE. His study says there is no discernible data that shows pot causes cancer. In fact he says it kills off cells before they have a chance to mutate into a cancer.

Who you gonna believe? :shrug:

I thought that maybe it was to counteract that scientist's report.

Exact opposite conclusion that came out earlier today...I tend to believe that one!

Inhaling smoke into your lungs is harmful to you and others around you?

Really?

No way?

Inhaling smoke, gases and particulate matter into your lungs is GOOD for you! Everyone knows that. Ask any fireman...

Explain to me how being mellow, reducing stress, and taking a holistic view of the world causes cancer.

I have COPD,Chronic neck pain,G.E.R.D. among other things,yet when I smoke pot it helps me clear my lungs of the flem that causes me to wheez. If I could get it all the time I would be happy,but I don't run in the circles that have it for sale. So I'm not getting it when I need it.

But, you balance things.

NT!

"Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment"

These people obviously have nothing productive to do, and couldn't be trusted to do anything correctly if they did, so you may as well cut that organization entirely and pocket the savings.

nt

one. Anyone have a link. It was a study by some college that shows there is little harm in smoking it.

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5877153>

That was the post I was thinking about when I posted this story.

It should be legal even if it turns out to be a slight carcinogen. That's an interesting study. So, it kills cells outright and doesn't give them a chance to become cancerous. That's a plan, I guess.

And yes, I had heard this before, that the pre-cancerous cells are killed by it and usually aren't capable of turning into actual cancer.

I'd recommend caution with anything that's smoked, lungs get burned and tarred, but overall, it's a remarkably safe drug, far more so than alcohol or tobacco.

Legalize it already!

cannabis smoke acts as a bronchial dilator; tobacco smoke acts as the opposite.

IOW, smoking pot helps you cough up the lung butter.

to cause tumors. Probably far more than any pot smoker would ever inhale...

If your medicine (and make no mistake, it is medicine) is strong, like most of the smoke here is, then it takes a lot less to have an effect. And the joint I smoke in the morning for pain causes my body far less injury than say, two Vicodin would.

This stinks like the so-called study that said heavy pot use causes liver cirrhosis.

I call bullshit!

Underfunded Scientists Force Lipstick-Covered Rat With Cancer To Run Through Maze

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/underfunded_scientists_force

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from the 70's by a guy named Chris Rush:

They take this mouse and they give him a piece of hash the size of a table.
Then then wonder why he won't run on the wheel.
and the mouse says: Hey Fuck You! You want me to run on the wheel? Gimme speed I'll run on the wheel!

From what I read it said it was a review of 30 studies not any new information. What did they have to review 30 studies before they found one that said what they wanted it to say. So pot smoke has some of the same constituent parts as cigarette smoke, probably has some of the same elements as cat shit too but so what. This is like saying it is sorta of like a cigarette in that you smoke it so it must cause the same problems. I have a real problem with the anti-pot people and anti-drug people in general in that they think their cause is so righteous that they will lie to try and convince people they are right. As a former pot smoker I will acknowledge that putting any kind of smoke into your lungs could cause some kind of problem. I will also acknowledge that one of the main proofs or indicators that cigarettes causes cancer was that doctors were running into a lot of long time heavy smokers that ended up with lung cancer thus they studied it and determined the correlation. There are a huge number of people in the world that have smoked one hell of a lot of weed but I never hear of any study that says there are heavy pot smokers showing up with lung cancer. I also don't know many people that have developed the equivalent of a two or three pack a day pot smoking habit.

Eat brownies.

Alcohol, cigarettes, ganja, red meat...

Eventually we will all die from something. Why give up all life's pleasures just to squeeze a year or 2 out at the end? That's for cowards.

shake is just fine for cooking. Run it through a fine sieve, lightly roast a teaspoon of the powder, add it to a peanut butter sandwich, a smoothie, or just mix it with peanut butter. It lasts much longer than smoking. Back in the seventies you could better afford to eat pot. It was $150 a lb. It's now out of my price range. SS forces one to live a more "moral" lifestyle.

do they have ANY proof that anybody has actually got cancer from smoking pot? or course we know the answer is negative.

A new appraisal of existing studies documenting the links between tiny soot particles and premature death from cardiovascular ailments shows that mortality rates among people exposed to the particles are twice as high as previously thought.

The study included 116 American cities, with the highest levels of soot particles found in areas including the eastern suburbs of Los Angeles, Birmingham, AL, Atlanta and Pittsburgh.

The review found that the risk of having a condition that is a precursor to deadly heart attacks for people living in soot-laden areas goes up by 24 percent rather than 12 percent, as particle concentrations increase.

A variety of sources produce fine particles, and they include diesel engines, automobile tires, coal-fired power plants and oil refineries.

The extended epidemiological analysis, which draws on data gathered from 350,000 people over 18 years, and an additional 150,000 people in more recent years, was conducted for the Health Effects Institute by scientists at the University of Ottawa.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/science/earth/03soot.html

Since the disease is caused by big business there will be no action and no warning.

Even perfectly healthy people who don't have cancer. Yet it's still legal. Go figure.

causes cancer.

Is there any employer in CA who is not required to post the warning?

When everything is a Hazard, nothing is a Hazard.

before they collect taxes off it, Of course, they will need to pass a legalization law of the product.

People can then sue for hospital costs.....

.... and the tobacco companies will have "an out" to say "Your cancer was caused by another product".

Just saying, be careful what you wish for.

Screw whichever company tries to make marijuana cigarettes when it is legalized. Heck you could trade food crops for weed, how great would that be!

Proposition 65 is the California law that requires any product that contains an ingredient or component that's on a very, very long list of "known carcinogens" to bear a warning. If they REALLY wanted to get technical, they'd have to put Proposition 65 warnings on a nickel.

And they're right: Pot smoke DOES need one of these labels. That law is not written to take into account that a product containing Proposition 65-covered chemicals might also contain chemicals that can cure cancer--and because there are law firms who do nothing but Proposition 65 litigation, this is only going to get stupider.

I'm really starting to think Direct Democracy is not such a good thing--it's produced Proposition 8, Proposition 13 and Proposition 65, among other real winners.

ending ballot initiatives. I hate them and everyone I know hates them. It is a very inefficient way to run a state.

that not only is there NO LINK to cancer from pot smoke, it might actually kill it.

It is a shame how far people will go with this.

And you don't have to inhale smoke to get the benefits.

http://greatvape.com - my source for vaporizers.

I'm so tired of all the anti-pot propaganda. Of course, if you smoke 20 joints of pot a day, you increase your risk of lung cancer. If you smoked 20 joints of spinach a day, you would increase your risk, for God's sake!

Vaporizing gives you all of the good, with none of the bad. I knew a medical grower whose dying patient extended her life by several months by vaporizing high grade Indica strains. There are people with gliomas, the most malignant form of brain cancer, being successfully treated with cannabis oil. I personally know a wonderful woman who cares for her elderly mother, an Alzheimer's patient. Alzheimer's is on the list of approved conditions for receiving an OMMP card in OR, and she treats her mother with coconut oil infused with cannabis extracts. Her mom is happy, always smiling, and when she makes mistakes, or gets confused, as Alz. patients often do, she doesn't get distressed, she laughs it off. I know people who successfully treat their bipolar disorder.

People with MS, fibromyalgia, chronic pain, spasms, wasting, nausea, glaucoma - the list goes on and on. Almost every illness can be helped by cannabis or some derivative thereof.

It's time people woke up, and stopped letting Big Pharma dictate the terms of their freedom. DEMAND rescheduling and DEMAND the right to use medical pot in their state.