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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 04:43 AM
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India plans hot chilli grenades
Source: BBC World

Indian defence scientists are planning to put one of the world's hottest chilli powders into hand grenades.

They say the devices will be used to control rioters and in counter-insurgency operations.

Researchers say the idea is to replace explosives in small hand grenades with a certain variety of red chilli to immobilise people without killing them.

The chilli, known as Bhut Jolokia, is said to be 1,000 times hotter than commonly used kitchen chilli.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8119591.stm



As an alternative to water cannons and microwave weapons, we may soon need only to bring our own nan for a full meal.
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DetlefK Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 05:10 AM
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1. And there is a reason, why they are not used in kitchen: chemical burns
Some chilis are so hot, that an overdose would cause chemical burns to the tongue.

And what will happen if you get that superchili-powder in your eyes? Blindness?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 05:51 AM
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3. The chili hotness is measured in Scoville units
"The spiciness of the sauces is measured in what are known as Scoville Units.

The higher the number of units, the bigger the burn, although some manufacturers say that beyond about 350,000 units, the measurement becomes meaningless."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4530739.stm
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 05:28 AM
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2. Redneck areas of the U.S. prepare a counter-measure ...
of course, the chili has to be eaten, first ... then it's a gas attack ...
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:12 AM
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7. Rednecks are the only ones who get gas?
Never knew that...
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 10:27 AM
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20. But it goes beyond emissions, it is a form of communication. It can signal
to his wife that it is time she got out of bed to make breakfast. It can show multitasking by farting and snoring at the same time. Farting can be used to impress your drinking buddies. It can be an object lesson on what happens when you have cabbage, onion rings, pickled hard boiled eggs, beer, Beans and franks for breakfast.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 03:32 PM
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27. NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could smell that post!!!

Thanks!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:33 PM
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30. It's an art. Had a friend that could clear a room. He cleared a showroom
at a competing bicycle shop one hot Saturday. Their AC was not working so they were using fans. It made his job a lot easier. He swore by brussel sprouts and hard boiled eggs as part of his WMS* arsenal.


*Weapons of Mighty Stink.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 06:01 AM
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31. Yes!
I was in the military and I understand there are those select few who are lethal!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:04 AM
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35. C Ration butter beans were a favorite propellant.
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:00 AM
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33. Deep man. So what yer sayin is, fart is a metaphor for life. Much like football is.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:06 AM
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36. Football is war, farts are statements.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:16 AM
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34. ...but beware the multitasking stuff RE: bodily functions
I've been told that if you simultaneously fart, burp, cough, sneeze, and hiccup, you die.

Or explode, I can't remember which.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:07 AM
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37. After age 50 you can soil yourself.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 06:47 PM
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28. please ... you're reading way too much into a joke ...
:eyes:

BTW ... if you want to complain about generalizations ... go ahead ... I'm half-Polish ... fire away ...
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 06:34 AM
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4. Opposition plans to counter with sprayers of whole milk
:D
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:11 AM
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11. Yup! Milk neutralizes the burn!
Water only give temporary relief but it spreads the Casein around more making the aftermath worse. So water is good if you get it in your eyes. get your head under a faucet and run luke warm water in your eyes for about 30 seconds. Keep your eyes open. Just remember that you open your eyes underwater all the time. Come to think of it if you have a swimming pool around jump in and go under for a while.

Chili dissolves in fat (which is why yoghurt drinks and sour cream cool the palette much more effectively than drinking water or beer).

Olive oil applied to skin helps
lemon juice can be applied to skin burns and seems to work better than olive oil
buttermilk applied to skin burns works

Casein (that which burns) is precipitated (detached from taste buds) in cultured dairy products (yogurt, buttermilk, sour-cream) and works more efficiently than Casein in milk.
Yogurt also has lactic acid and butter fat that act as solvents for Capsaicin
- Tomato, Lime, and Lemon juice are all acids. Drinking these juices will give relief.
- Fatty food such as peanut butter, bread soaked in Ghee will give relief.
- Sugar neutralizes the burning sensation efficiently. The heat in the chili peppers is quantified by the amount of sugar needed to neutralize heat.
Granulated sugar and Honey will reduce heat.
Pet Evaporated milk, full strength
isopropyl alcohol helps
Benadryl helps

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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:23 AM
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12. I want you on my team

(bring your stuff with you)

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:29 AM
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13. It's a whole new use for those tomatoes people like to throw
Use them to rub all over your body when they shoot chiles at you!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:39 AM
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18. I'll be a walking salsa dish

nt
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:57 PM
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29. That which burns is capsaicin
casein is a protein found in dairy products.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 06:57 AM
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5. "immobilise people without killing them"
The same claims are made about the Taser. Amnesty International reports 351 people dead in the US from Taser abuse. http://www.amnestyusa.org/us-human-rights/taser-abuse/page.do?id=1021202
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:34 AM
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8. In addition...
I'm sure that the immobilized victims of these grenades will be treated with gentle courtesy rather than being bludgeoned about the head and neck while helplessly immobilized.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:31 AM
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15. You forgot the sarcasm smiley didn't you?
Do you know any riot police who are pacifists?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:37 AM
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16. I prefer not to use the sarcasm smiley, on principle
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:11 AM
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6. Habanero grenade incoming! Run!
:nuke:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:37 AM
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9. Meh, I had and aunt whose meatballs could take out a platoon. nt
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 08:37 AM by Javaman
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:42 AM
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10. Does that make my garden a WMD?
I picked the first four, of my nice, ripe habanero's yesterday.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:29 AM
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14. Yes. You terrist!
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:49 AM
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19. Sprayed with pepper today and confined to the toilet tomorrow.
That'll show those protesters! Give 'em diarrhea.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 09:37 AM
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17. just because it is from a plant doesn't make it not-deadly

sounds like someone had stock in a pepper farm and wanted to start a bigger market for his/her crops

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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 10:47 AM
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21. Maybe India can test that weapon on Limbaugh and Hannity's ASS
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 10:48 AM by TheCoxwain
after Hannity agrees to get waterboarded
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:13 AM
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22. Um, isn't this just a variation on the tear gas canister?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:47 AM
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32. Yep. This is essentially natural pepper spray.
The active ingredient of pepper spray (or pepper grenades or pepper gas) is capsaicin - the ingredient that makes chili peppers hot.

The difference is concentration, measured in Scoville Heat Units (SHUs)

A jalapeno is about 2,000 SHUs. A habanero is about 50,000-150,000 SHUs. The Bhut Jolokia clocks in at 577,000 SHUs.

Police pepper spray clocks in at 5.3 million SHUs, compared to chemically pure capsaicin which is 16 million SHUs.

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:43 AM
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23. For some reason, this reminds me that yo-yos started out as a weapon.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 12:10 PM
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24. I've eaten a Bhut Jolokia

Not raw, that's impossible because it can cause permanent damage to your tongue, esophagus and sinus cavities.

Even cooked it was like being tear gassed (part of my law enforcement training).

I eat hot peppers on a regular basis, scotch bonnet and thai peppers are my favorite, but the jolokias kicked my ass. I thought I was going to die.

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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 12:32 PM
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26. I Love Hot Food.....
....but I don't think I need anything hotter than those lethal little green Thai chiles. One of them will heat up a large curry recipe very well.

A wild bird store I frequent recently sold be a package of chile powder to put in bird seed to keep the squirrels away from my back yard feeder (no harm to the birds; they don't have the taste buds for it). I have a feeling the peppers used might very well be jolokias; the instructions for use made the powder sound like nuculear material.....
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 12:12 PM
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25. "MMMMmmmmm...incapacitating"
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 12:14 PM by Coventina
ETA: I swear, everything in life relates back to the Simpsons!
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