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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:11 AM
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AP Source: 10 others to be charged in Madoff probe
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK – Authorities are pursuing charges against 10 more people in the Bernard Madoff financial scandal after the mastermind of one of the biggest financial frauds in history was sentenced to spend the rest of his days behind bars, The Associated Press has learned.

A person familiar with the investigation, speaking on condition of anonymity because the probe is ongoing, wouldn't detail what the potential charges would be or say whether the 10 people include Madoff's family or former employees. So far, only Madoff and an accountant accused of failing to make basic auditing checks have been criminally charged in the multibillion-dollar hoax.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090630/ap_on_bi_ge/us_madoff_scandal
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:25 AM
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1. If true, I would not be surprised to see Jeffry Picower among them.
It now appears that the biggest winner in Madoff's scheme may not have been Madoff at all, but a secretive businessman named Jeffry Picower.

Between December 1995 and December 2008, Picower and his family withdrew from their various Madoff accounts $5.1 billion more than they invested with the self-confessed swindler, according to a lawsuit filed by the trustee who is trying to recover money for those Madoff defrauded.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31510209/ns/business-small_business/


Also: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/06/29/business/20090629-madoff-table.html
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:34 AM
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2. So he didn't actually manage the massive ponzi scheme alone?
Of course not--he's a rich guy, and so he has people to do that.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 10:12 AM
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3. Notice they're not calling it a Ponzi scheme, anymore? More like a pyramid, with lots of others
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 10:57 AM by leveymg
bleeding out the funds. The primary bleed-out schemers were the feeder funds and Madoff's biggest beneficiary identified thus far, the Picower accounts.

Foundations run by tycoons are nothing new. However, the Wall Street meltdown is revealing some of the megafrauds, such as the AIG and Starr Foundation scandal, that occur when large corporations and wealthy individuals run charities that invest heavily in the proprietors's own stock. Picower was caught up in an investigation of just this type of arrangement.

The Picower Foundation was also a major contributor to Israeli charities and settlers. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1049441.html

http://blogs.forward.com/bintel-blog/tags/picower-found... /

December 20, 2008, 2:36pm

Billion-Dollar Foundation To Shutter Amid Madoff Woes
By Gabrielle Birkner

A billion-dollar foundation that gave to a wide array of Jewish causes is the latest charitable organization to announce that it is closing in the wake of Bernard Madoff’s financial collapse.

The 19-year-old, Palm Beach, Fla.-based Picower Foundation, which distributed more than $23 million in 2007 — including gifts to about two dozen Jewish organizations — announced Friday that it will shutter, the New York Times and other news organizations are reporting.

According to its 2007 tax return, the foundation gave $225,000 to the Limmud NY conference of Jewish learning; $185,000 to the Jewish Outreach Institute, which provides support services to interfaith families; $109,278 to the Foundation for Jewish Camping, and $100,000 to a program that aids children and families living in Sderot, Israel. Picower also made five-figure gifts to such organizations as the Jewish Coalition for Service, AVODAH, Hillel, Jewish Family & Life, the Jewish Television Network, and the JCC in Manhattan.

Medical research institutions, after-school programs, and human rights organizations also benefited from foundation grants. Picower assets are valued at nearly $1 billion.


That type of largesse appears to have been a common denominator among many of the largest Madoff feeder funds and clients. See, http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/3/18/709990/-MYTHS-ABOUT-MADOFFS-PONZI-SCHEMEBernies-Game-Wasnt-What-They-Told-You

Furthermore, Picower was a tax shelter operator who bought into Ivan Boesky's junk bond schemes. He also has a strong ties with conservative politics and fundamentalist religious groups - this smells like Carl Lindner, McCain's patron and mentor to Charles Keating, of S&L ripoff fame. Here's another common link that ties together Boesky, Milken, Lindner and Keating: BCCI and the S&L ripoff. See, http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0806/S00096.htm

The Madoff pyramid bleed-out scheme appears to be yet another installment in an ongoing major international criminal ring.










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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:00 PM
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6. Great research, Leveymg!
The "conservatives" that keep popping up in these crimes have been enabled to do this by one justice dept. after another for decades. What in the hell is it going to take to get some of these crooks put away once & for all?

There are a lot of people mad at Madhoff because they lost so much money... some people who are or have been very well connected. Maybe this will be the ponzi scheme that pulls the critical thread and unravels this sordid past.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 12:20 PM
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7. Here's another stone in the Great Pyramid of corruption: Sheldon Adelson
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 12:21 PM by leveymg
leveymg (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-03-09 01:32 PM
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1. The Cotai Strip in Macau is the project that broke Sheldon Adelson.
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 01:38 PM by leveymg

Sheldon Adelson, owner of Sands Corp, lost 95% of his wealth last year, about $30 billion, much of it lost in Macau, according to Forbes. That loss is right up there with Madoff's scheme.

Vegas has been the center of high-risk finance, and when Wall Street melted-down, Vegas burned to the ground. Or, was the "market contagion" the other way around?

There is a major connection between the two biggest American money centers that is not often acknowledged and little studied. GOOGLE "Mafia Wall Street" and "Vegas Wall Street". There's not much recent serious work on the subject.

Adelson was also a primary bankroller for Freedom's Watch, a right-wing propaganda organization. Freedom's Watch funders include: "Anthony Gioia, a Buffalo businessman who was Bush's ambassador to Malta; Kevin Moley, who was Bush's ambassador to the U.S. Mission to the United Nations in Geneva; Howard Leach, a former Republican National Committee finance chairman who was Bush's ambassador to France; Dr. John Templeton of Pennsylvania, chairman and president of the John Templeton Foundation; Ed Snider, chairman of Comcast Spectacor, the huge Philadelphia sports and entertainment firm; Sheldon Adelson, chairman of the Las Vegas Sands Corp. and ranked by Forbes magazine as the third-wealthiest American; and Richard Fox, who is chairman of the Jewish Policy Center and was Pennsylvania State Chairman of the Reagan/Bush campaign in 1980." Source: Rightwatch

Adelson is, of course, a "beard" for a circle of corrupt, Right-wing Wall St. operators with ties to the intelligence community, a circle that includes Carl Lindner, Charles Keating and Junk Bond King Mike Milken, also long-time McCain backers. When his bankers went belly-up, McCain's chances were finished.

leveymg's Journal - THE CRIMES AND COVERUPS OF JOHN McCAIN, “REFORMER” Jun 3, 2008 ... Like the Bush Family, McCain had his Hand in the BCCI and S&L Scandals McCain claims that his involvement in the Keating S&L scandal wasn’t ...
http://journals.democraticunderground.com /... - 48k

McCain Backer's Firm Pleaded Guilty To Funding Terrorist Group In Colombia ...Jul 2, 2008 ... Late last week, Lindner co-hosted a $25000-per-person fundraiser for McCain and the Republican Party in the wealthy Indian Hills ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/m ... - 146k -

The public should get a view into the background of Lindner, Keating and McCain, which essentially boils down to big Mafia money that has flowed into the GOP and various extreme Rightist groups around the world since Meyer Lansky made a deal with the Republicans in the mid-1940s.In exchange for their legalized gambling and liquor concessions, Top Bosses Lansky and Giancana straightened up the mob's image in the southwest, in exchange the GOP (along with elements of the CIA) got a piece of the action. See, http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv ....








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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:53 AM
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11. I guess the difference between a pyramid scheme and a Ponzi scheme is that commissions are paid in a
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 06:05 AM by No Elephants
pyramid scheme, but not in a Ponzi scheme? To the duped "investor," however, the impact is the same. http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.shtm


IMO, they should drop the term "Ponzi scheme." Ponzi certainly did not invent it, nor was he the only one to engage in it. It makes it sound like an Italian crime, which is ridiculous.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:53 AM
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4. His sons should do time, too.
I find it absurd to think that the sons--who helped run the firm, and one of them was in charge of the trading desk--had no idea what Bernie was doing. They would have been placing the trades and buying and selling the securities, the options contracts. They had to account for all their trades. It should have been glaringly obvious that their numbers never came close to matching up with the "profits" Bernie was claiming.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:50 AM
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13. I know Wikipedia is not the ultimate truth
But it says when he admitted to his sons he was running a ponzi scheme they in turn reported him to authorities.

On December 10, 2008, he suggested to his sons, Mark and Andrew, that the firm pay out several million dollars in bonuses two months ahead of schedule, from $200 million in assets that the firm still had.<11> According to the complaint, Mark and Andrew, reportedly unaware of the firm's pending insolvency, confronted their father, asking him how the firm could pay bonuses to employees if it could not pay investors. Madoff then admitted that he was "finished," and that the asset management arm of the firm was in fact a Ponzi scheme. Mark and Andrew then reported him to the authorities.<12>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoff_investment_scandal

Based on this info I couldn't do it but I really don't know all the facts and if it was in fact glaringly obvious I don't see how could've done it all these years in the face of the SEC and others who keep track of this sorta thing.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:54 AM
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5. of course he wasn't alone... there had to be a network
of individuals to pull this off.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:07 PM
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8. K&R for the insightful, educational comments. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:18 PM
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9. Glad to hear it. Flush the bastards out.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:47 PM
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10. Uh oh, a prison ponzi scheme!
Just wait: the last to be indicted and convicted won't have any cells left to go to.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:20 AM
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12. welcome news
BM's associates, if they committed crimes,
need to go to prison
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:59 AM
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14. And remember it could have been stopped 8 years ago
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