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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:24 PM
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47 injured in Muni train crash (San Francisco)
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Forty-seven people were injured today, four of them seriously, when a Municipal Railway train rear ended another Muni train at the West Portal Station, authorities said.

Witnesses described a chaotic scene following the crash, which occurred just before 3 p.m. when an L Taraval smashed into the back of a K Ingleside train near the station's boarding platform, said Muni spokesman Judson True.

The impact of the crash shattered the front window of the L train and crumpled its steel nose. The shattered windshield, apparently made of safety glass, stayed in place. Both trains were headed in the outbound direction.

... It was the latest in a spate of mass transit accidents around the country.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/18/BA3C18RJGG.DTL&tsp=1
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:26 PM
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1. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another case of a distracted, texting operator......
nt
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 06:42 AM
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12. Beat me to it, my question was who was texting.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:26 PM
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2. I know that spot, visted it two summers ago.
The interchange was very busy,but seemed to be managed quite well. I wonder what happened?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:26 PM
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3. Don't these rail lines have fail-safes that trip the brakes if they blow by a red signal?
That is assuming the signals were working and showed red for the already occupied track.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 08:41 PM
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4. Hmm I was looking at the piccies, interest mostly, check the links
personal injury lawyers.

:-)

Now on a very serious note... I know, I know these things come in threes... old EMS saying... but still
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 10:36 PM
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5. K&R
:kick:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 10:52 PM
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6. OMG... I could have been on this train!
Edited on Sat Jul-18-09 11:45 PM by AsahinaKimi
I take the L Taraval nearly every day.. and its a good thing I stayed home today.

I don't understand why that train was going that fast coming into West Portal in the first place. The distance between Castro Street Station and Forest Hill is fairly far, (this is all underground until you get to West Portal Station) so the trains do go fast there..but going to the next stop, West Portal, is not that long of a distance, and there is no reason for those trains to go so fast. Besides, they always slow down when they come to the station going outbound.

It will be interesting to find out why this happened.

MUNI just had their fares increased this month.. Looks like that might end up going towards all the law suits that will be filed.


Just found this:
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/san_francisco&id=6922080

"I was standing on the edge of the platform waiting for the train to pull up so I could board it. I saw this barreling in, not slowing down. The driver's head was down. He looked like he was asleep or passed out," one witness told ABC7. "I couldn't tell. But he was not looking at me. He was not slowing down or braking. No signals, nothing. You could tell he was not going to stop and he just crashed right into the rear of the K train.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:44 AM
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9. He may have passed out before--he was listed as seriously injured, I thought the stops
at the stations were automated.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:50 PM
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7. This happened on our watch
:mad:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:51 PM
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8. Jobs are being slashed all over SF. This may be a contributing facctor.
Did the bozo mayor layoff muni rail inspectors and engineers?
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 02:01 AM
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10. The 11pm news mentioned something about the driver being a possible diabetic.
If so, that could explain the eyewitness that said he appeared to be hunched over before the collision.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 02:26 AM
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11. Perhaps the solutionj is to not hire diabetic people for these
type of positions. I'll be anxious to here the results of the investigation.
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Big_Mike Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:18 AM
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13. You can't drive a big rig with diabetes,
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 11:18 AM by Big_Mike
so I'd think you can't drive a train with it either. The FRA has rules about that. The problem is that the Federal Railroad Administration does not cover light rail systems such as MUNI or BART. So it depends upon what state law says.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 06:27 PM
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14. Of course they can't have a conductor or anything
that would cost money. :(
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